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What wine you whinos drinking 1,000,000??
Stinkdyr Offline
#651 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
...... If you find Pine Ridge it is worth trying.



Ecco that! It is not nearly as polluted with oak as most west coast wines.


Applause
Stinkdyr Offline
#652 Posted:
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Mattie B wrote:
Don't make me send you some.

Try them Frank. You won't be disappointed. The rose is made from Mourvèdre. Very different from the Provence style.

The Pinot , well there aren't many that I don't like.



Are they over-oaky like so many CA wines?

Think
Stinkdyr Offline
#653 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
didn't get the name, but a nice syrah rose (x2) with this

CHARRED OCTOPUS | 15
toasted almond mole, yellow raisins, roasted grapes

at Burro Bar in Brookline MA

Stinkdyr, very good place on Beacon St near Washington St.



Thx for the tip, Frank!
I will seek it out.

Beer
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#654 Posted:
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I was never at the original in Cambridge or Slumerville, but I believe it is called Painted Burro.

This one is small, cool vibe, and gets you out of the city without schlepping an hour.
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#655 Posted:
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Wife and were drinking napa cellars cab 2014. Not bad, was one "clearance" at our local store. But dry. But if you decant for a few hours, really opens up.
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#656 Posted:
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Rose, there are really three different types and they started in France. Provance, which is comprised of Grenache, Syrah, and various other grapes indigenous to the region. Burgundy, which is Pinot Noir. And Bandol which is Mouvedre, and other grapes indigenous to the region. Mattie is right a Mouvedre based rose is very different. It is somewhat large and structured. And it ages well, probably up to 5 years if you want. Now rose is made world wide from various grapes. A good rose should be bone dry, with a good backbone of acidity. I stay away from Italian and South American rose. They tend to be off dry, not something I enjoy. Rose from Bordeaux, though rare, is also rather large. It can have any of the 4 primary grapes in it. I particularly find Sancerre rose interesting. It is Pinot Noir based, and has a core of interesting minerality, probably due to the limestone in the soil. Most good rose is made through the saignee method. To intensify their red wine a producer bleeds off about 10% of the juice after 2 or 3 days of maceration. That juice ends up becoming rose.
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#657 Posted:
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It's not very often I lay out a wine that is a must buy...but this one is legit

J Vidal Fleury Cotes du Rhone

A French red blend of mostly Grenache.

Retail should be around $15.


All I can say is...

But it!!!
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#658 Posted:
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2012 Chateau de Belcier Castillon Cotes de Bordeaux (what a friggin' mouthful/as I read the bottle)

Not normally a huge Merlot fan, but I do like them when they come from Bordeaux.
..and this one is CHEAP. Scored this at Costco for $10. Gonna get a case.
It's not a single varietal, has a splash of Cabernet Franc and Malbec in it to round it out.
It's nice and dry with dark cherry/berry notes. A little thin but very enjoyable, especially for the price.
If you've never tried an affordable Bordeaux, give this one a try, especially to taste the difference between
a California and a French Merlot.

Salut!
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#659 Posted:
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Mattie, that is a fine bottle. It is a blend of Grenache, Syrah, and Mourvedre if memory serves me right. I also think there is some declassified Gigondas blended in. That's why it is so rich.
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#660 Posted:
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Peckerhead wrote:
2012 Chateau de Belcier Castillon Cotes de Bordeaux (what a friggin' mouthful/as I read the bottle)

Not normally a huge Merlot fan, but I do like them when they come from Bordeaux.
..and this one is CHEAP. Scored this at Costco for $10. Gonna get a case.
It's not a single varietal, has a splash of Cabernet Franc and Malbec in it to round it out.
It's nice and dry with dark cherry/berry notes. A little thin but very enjoyable, especially for the price.
If you've never tried an affordable Bordeaux, give this one a try, especially to taste the difference between
a California and a French Merlot.

Salut!

I find the more years I get into this, I have been trending toward a little thinner reds. There are times I crave a big red, certain zins or cabs, but I've moved away without really giving it much thought
Peckerhead Offline
#661 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I find the more years I get into this, I have been trending toward a little thinner reds. There are times I crave a big red, certain zins or cabs, but I've moved away without really giving it much thought


Funny you mention that.
It's kinda like cigars, a nice mild/medium one is a really welcome change of pace after bombing your
palate with Tats and other Nicaraguan firecrackers. Ha!
Been smoking Noellas lately and then had an Undercrown shade and it
dawned on me. Need some milder stogies in my mix!

Also, In this hot weather you really don't want (IMO) a big monster heavy red, so wines like this are great. Of course, indoors it's not a huge deal, but if outdoors I gravitate towards citrusy Sauvignon Blancs. New Zealand has some great varieties. Perfect for hot weather.
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#662 Posted:
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Peckerhead wrote:
Funny you mention that.
It's kinda like cigars, a nice mild/medium one is a really welcome change of pace after bombing your
palate with Tats and other Nicaraguan firecrackers. Ha!
Been smoking Noellas lately and then had an Undercrown shade and it
dawned on me. Need some milder stogies in my mix!

Also, In this hot weather you really don't want (IMO) a big monster heavy red, so wines like this are great. Of course, indoors it's not a huge deal, but if outdoors I gravitate towards citrusy Sauvignon Blancs. New Zealand has some great varieties. Perfect for hot weather.

yeah, i went the same route with cigars too. Bulked up, damaged my taste buds, came back to just north/just south of medium
frankj1 Offline
#663 Posted:
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wait! are you here to replace me?

The youse will not replace me!
Peckerhead Offline
#664 Posted:
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No worries Frank, you're a stalworth here. I'm just a lowly noob.
Speyside Offline
#665 Posted:
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My tastes in red wine seems to constantly be evolving. I want more integrated fruit and acidity. I have enjoyed French wines for years. Recently I have begun to enjoy Italian wines. Probably the best way to discribe what I am looking for in a red wine is balance. When you find balance you also find complexity. When you notice that French Merlot from Bordeaux in very different than Napa Merlot you are talking about the difference in terrior. Terrior is sense of place. There is a difference in Merlot from the left bank or right bank in Bordeaux.
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#666 Posted:
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2014 Lucien Albrecht Pinot Blanc...Alsace
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#667 Posted:
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2015 Teyssier Bordeaux I liked it a lot and think it was only $11.99
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#668 Posted:
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What did you think of the Lucien Albright Pinot Blanc? I like his wines.
frankj1 Offline
#669 Posted:
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I liked it. Coulda sworn I caught a hint of grapefruit.
Had some with grilled chicken wings and cold sesame noodles Saturday night, and with baked cod tonight...paired better the first time but also liked it by itself.
not sure of the correct word but not as "thin" as many whites...?

I will look for more pinot blanc and will search for your Italian suggestions as well.
Speyside Offline
#670 Posted:
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Thin, or light are good words to discribe many white wines that lack body. Truthfully you have tried light Alsacian wines so far. They get much richer and heavier. I tried an Edelzwicker (noble blend) at work today that was amazing. It was very rich, almost a glycerol mouth feel. It had lush tropical fruit, pineapple and guava. I'll have to do a review in the wine corner.
frankj1 Offline
#671 Posted:
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a world of whites, as yet limited, has opened for me.
thanks Allen.
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#672 Posted:
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Michael David Winery
Earthquake Cabernet Sauvignon, Lodi, USA - 2014

If you can find it below $20, buy it! I snapped up about a case for $15 a bottle. It was on clearance and consider it my wine find of the year.
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#673 Posted:
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Daniel Cohn Bellacosa Cabernet Sauvignon 2014
Speyside Offline
#674 Posted:
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2015 Scaia, reviewed it in the wine corner.

Grilled chicken with herbs.
Grilled vegetable kabobs.
Kale tossed salad with poppy seed dressing.
Vanilla bean ice cream drizzled with fig infused balsamic vinegar.
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#675 Posted:
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Le Grand Noir Pinot Noir 2015
Limoux, Southern France
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#676 Posted:
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Ledger David Dark Knight (80% Tempranillo Malbec&Syrah)

Cricket Hill Grand Vin Enchanté (40% Cab Franc 60% Merlot)

Both small locals.
Stinkdyr Offline
#677 Posted:
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Chile 120 Pinot Noir
Of course this is not a great PN, I would rate it about a 5.
But it makes a good cheap base for home made sangria.

Beer
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#678 Posted:
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1996 Chateau StJean Cinq Cépages

This was rated the #1 wine of the year by Wine Enthusiast in 1997. Wifey and I bought a case months before the rating came out and the price doubled overnight. Still has great fruit, tar and smooth oak after 21 years.
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2016, Emilio Moro, Finca Resalso Tempranillo, Ribera Del Duero, Spain

Red ripe dark cherry color. Intense on the nose, typical aromas of a Ribera Del Duero can be perceived, such as mature black fruits, blackberry and currant. Subtle oak notes appear in the background. On the mouth it’s intense with lively tannins, but leaves a gentle and mellow sensation on the mouth. Fruit flavors of blackberry, blueberry, and currant dominate. There is a significant amount of spice also. This wine is balanced and has a core of acidity.
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#680 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
1996 Chateau StJean Cinq Cépages

This was rated the #1 wine of the year by Wine Enthusiast in 1997. Wifey and I bought a case months before the rating came out and the price doubled overnight. Still has great fruit, tar and smooth oak after 21 years.



Cinq Cepages is an outstanding wine as is everything from CSJ. Even their cheapo California label is a great value.

They received damage in the Nuns Fire but did not get burned down as first reported.

Nearby Kenwood Vineyards got near missed and are matching Red Cross donations.

https://www.redcross.org/donate/cm/pernodricard-emp
Speyside Offline
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2015, Elk Cove Pinot Noir estate bottling, Willamette Valley, Oregon. Very nice.

Cheese plate
Coq au Vin
Tossed salad, balsamic fig dressing
Apple pie with cinnamon ice cream.
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#682 Posted:
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1992 Caymus Cab

After 25 years it still has some good fruit but past it's prime. I guess we need to pay more attention to what is hidden in the Vinotemp. These were drinking beautifully last time we had one about 5 year ago.
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#683 Posted:
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2014 Foxglove Zinfandel
Paso Robles

So far really loving it. Not the big jammy mouthful of zin I fell in love with years ago, more sophisticated, maybe more like a fuller pinot noir?

A steal on sale for $11, must go back for a few bottles, maybe even try Varner's Pinot Noir too.
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Speyside wrote:
2015, Elk Cove Pinot Noir estate bottling, Willamette Valley, Oregon. Very nice.

Cheese plate
Coq au Vin
Tossed salad, balsamic fig dressing
Apple pie with cinnamon ice cream.

Not much of a wine drinker myself,but apple pie with cinnamon ice creamDrool that sounds pretty good.
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#685 Posted:
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Yalumba Antique Tawny Museum Reserve
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#686 Posted:
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19 Crimes "The Warden."

Excellent!
Speyside Offline
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2014, Klinker Brick Old Ghost Zinfandel, Lodi, California.

Huge, rich, and dense. A great nose of ripe fruit, red flesh plums, and blueberrys. A slight hint of petrol also. Wonderful jammy flavor of black and red raspberrys. Just a hint of earthyness. Velvety, silky texture. A bold wine that is over the top and completely enjoyable.
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#688 Posted:
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Stone Hill- Concord
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#689 Posted:
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Yalumba Antique Tawmy Museum Reserve
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#690 Posted:
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2012 Weinlaubenhof Kracher Cuvee Auslese, Burgenland, Austria.
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#691 Posted:
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2012 Murgo brut rose, Sicily, Italy.
Speyside Offline
#692 Posted:
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Ramos Pinto 10 year Tawny port, Douro Valley, Portugal.
Speyside Offline
#693 Posted:
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2015, Conundrum white, California.
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Speyside wrote:
2015, Conundrum white, California.

used to get a bottle every year, sort of forgot about it.
was good for the whole family cuz agreeably sweet...right?
Speyside Offline
#695 Posted:
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No, dry but loads of fruit, orange, peach, nectarine, and apricot.
frankj1 Offline
#696 Posted:
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2015 Decoy Sonoma County Pinot Noir
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2015, Fritz-Ritter Spatlese Gewurztaminer, Phalz, Germany.
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2014, Jorge Ordonez Victoria #2, Malaga, Andalusia, Spain.
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2014 and 2015 Rex Goliath Pinot Noir. $5.99 and stacks up against far more expensive pinots. Bunch of silver and bronze awards over the years. I tell everyone I run into that enjoys reds to give it a taste.

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2016, Leitz Rudesheimer Magdalenenkreuz Riesling Spatelese, Rhone, Germany.
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