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wulfman Offline
#301 Posted:
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again, white owners and black men? Oh yeah we kneel to pray or just is that just catholics? So the military stands as security to our foreign interests, how does that affect football and your patriotism? c'mon you guys its all good, puff away and compare incomes again why dontcha.
TMCTLT Offline
#302 Posted:
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wulfman wrote:
again, white owners and black men? Oh yeah we kneel to pray or just is that just catholics? So the military stands as security to our foreign interests, how does that affect football and your patriotism? c'mon you guys its all good, puff away and compare incomes again why dontcha.


So your gonna go and use a religion and it's parishioners as a comparison to overpaid SJW's???? Alrighty then!!!!
Maybe if they didn't for the most part all end up BROKE after earning multiple millions in some cases hundreds of millions....they TOO could be OWNERS. Life's all about the choices we make...ism't it??? fog
DrafterX Offline
#303 Posted:
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The NFL wrote rules and laid out punishment for not respecting the flag and anthem... Enforce them.. Mellow
victor809 Offline
#304 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
Excuse me for pointing out the obvious.

But Princess Vicki did type out the word "azzhole" TWICE himself.

You ask for consistency, take it from the azzhole who typed it describing himself. Regardless of the PC label he tries to put on it. Once an azzhole, always an azzhole. Regardless of what he smokes or how he tries to justify it.

Have a great day! Back to your regularly scheduled program.


What is this word salad? I have no idea what you're trying to say amelia...
bgz Offline
#305 Posted:
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wulfman wrote:


1. again, white owners and black men?
2. Oh yeah we kneel to pray or just is that just catholics?
3. So the military stands as security to our foreign interests, how does that affect football and your patriotism?
4. c'mon you guys its all good, puff away and compare incomes again why dontcha.



I'm trying to understand your logic here... I see no no logical correlation between the first 3 questions (at least I think they're questions). So the only conclusion I can come up with is that you are saying "comparing incomes with each other" is the only rational answer to each question.

:/
wulfman Offline
#306 Posted:
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OK, I get it, you all are upset at kneeling for the flag and feel it is disrespectful of the US military and veterans. I also understand that an employer has standards that they lay out to guide or govern the whole.

You fellas are bringing all the emotions into this. All the my daddy or pappy was a (fill in the blank) and your supposed to shut up and go along with this--cause its always been done this way.

Its Football. Im just seeing holes in the conversations about men getting amounts of money that some feel they do not deserve. Like capitalism and the American Way is thrown out the window when it comes to football players. What happened to get all you can, if you can? Also, what happened to the American spirit of "you can't tell me what to"?

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#307 Posted:
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wulfman wrote:
OK, I get it, you all are upset at kneeling for the flag and feel it is disrespectful of the US military and veterans. I also understand that an employer has standards that they lay out to guide or govern the whole.

You fellas are bringing all the emotions into this. All the my daddy or pappy was a (fill in the blank) and your supposed to shut up and go along with this--cause its always been done this way.

Its Football. Im just seeing holes in the conversations about men getting amounts of money that some feel they do not deserve. Like capitalism and the American Way is thrown out the window when it comes to football players. What happened to get all you can, if you can? Also, what happened to the American spirit of "you can't tell me what to"?




Of course most are upset and do feel it is very disrespectful. In my opinion "disrespectful" is putting it very mildly. It is dishonorable, degrading, in my eyes it would be the same as pissing on a mothers grave. When you say "Bringing all emotions into this" again of course we are. With out the emotion or feelings if you will. The flag would have never been made. It is the emotion and feelings that is the backbone of its creation. With out that then why have a flag, for that matter why have a wedding ring, why have an anniversary, why read the Bible. I think it is because of the emotions and feelings of what it is suppose to represent.

When you stated "the conversations about men getting amounts of money that some feel they do not deserve" I firmly believe you do not bite the hand that feeds you.

When you say "What happened to get all you can, if you can?" does that include pissing on those that do care, that feel a group of people are pissing on the grave and are biting the hand that feeds them?

You stated what happened to the American spirit of "you can't tell me what to"? well that is still there or this would have stopped along time ago. But, one also has to commune with the community if they expect to go far or be accepted by the community as a whole. The community as a whole still does not think it is ok to disrespect, dishonor, piss on tradition because of the emotion and feelings that are the backbone of such.

Now with that said, I am not trying to take away from what the protest or "Keeling" is suppose to represent. I do understand what they are trying to say BUT i will say they chose the wrong platform or "soap box" to make that stand. In my mind they chose degrade something sacred to the majority in the US to make their point. Once that happened then in my mind and personal feelings they do not deserve my attention to even look at or even consider what their point is.

I guess what I am trying to say is this. I do not need to come to one of your loved ones grave piss on it, dishonor it or you to just get your attention so you will see my point or protest. I would hope that in the very very least if I should do that, you would at MINIMUM not even give my point a valid consideration. Why I would think this is because well I assume you have emotion that would come into it yes? Why well because with out that emotion or feeling there would be no grave yes?
shaun341 Offline
#308 Posted:
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Here is the problem with what they are doing. In order to make their voice heard they are doing something that is so controversial it divides people. Now if they truly believed in equality they would not voice their opinion in a way that forces division but should try to unite people. That is common though with people and fads which is exactly what this has become now and a fad has no meaning to it.

Being that these athletes have the opportunity to speak to the media constantly there were many other ways that they could have went about this if they felt deeply and honestly about this issue. Instead they chose the absolute worst way to do it and then try to force it down the public's throat that they are being oppressed. Oppression does not include stupidity and that is what every single one of those kneelers are...just plain dumb. The message is lost and the players look like ungrateful fools, so where did this get them?

You want to make a difference then put your money (which most have plenty of it) where your mouth is instead of forcing issues that make you look like you want to play the victim. That is one thing I will give Kaepernick credit for, the guy is putting some real life work into what he believes in and not just saying words without any backing to them. These players have money and access to being a voice that the nation can hear, why do it in such a way that divides instead of unites?

Brewha Offline
#309 Posted:
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Dissent is patriotic.
I guess a lot of folks here grapple with that, and with what freedom really is.




On a lighter note. The Dallas Cowboys owner has threatened to fire players who kneel.
So, even in 2017 we are talking about a white owner telling his boys how to behave on the field.
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#310 Posted:
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If they really want to make a statement then they should (those too weak to stand!) drop to both knees like their leader and beg for their jobs!


The NFL is done with this clown running it and the caliber of players in the game now. Its a game, not a platform to ram whatever you want down the public's throat. It's no wonder why people are turning their backs at the game in droves. They've pussified the game to the point that you can't make a hit on somebody or celebrate a touchdown! The refs interject the game with bad calls and that used to be what fans griped about. Look at the dumpster fire now created by one guy that is an idiot for listening to his racist girlfriend. Applause Applause Applause
MACS Offline
#311 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Dissent is patriotic.
I guess a lot of folks here grapple with that, and with what freedom really is.




On a lighter note. The Dallas Cowboys owner has threatened to fire players who kneel.
So, even in 2017 we are talking about a white owner telling his boys how to behave on the field.


You and Michael Bennett... comparing being paid MILLIONS to play a GAME to slavery.

Have you any idea how ridiculously stupid that is? They have the freedom to walk away from those millions. I won't hold my breath.
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Brewha wrote:
The Dallas Cowboys owner has threatened to fire players who kneel.
So, even in 2017 we are talking about a white owner telling his boys how to behave on the field.


He did not threaten to fire them ... he clearly did say those who knelt wouldn't play ...

oh, and if you have a job where you don't have to be even slightly concerned about instructions from your boss, you have a very unusual job ... irrespective of whether your boss is white, green, purple or blue ...
shaun341 Offline
#313 Posted:
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SteveS wrote:
He did not threaten to fire them ... he clearly did say those who knelt wouldn't play ...

oh, and if you have a job where you don't have to be even slightly concerned about instructions from your boss, you have a very unusual job ... irrespective of whether your boss is white, green, purple or blue ...



Exactly!!!!! While people want to turn this into a race issue the government is laughing their way to the bank. We have morons complaining about slavery when I never meant a person living today that owned a slave. In the meantime we spend our days arguing about what race is in control the top 1% keep wages at a minimum and keep on segregating themselves from the middle and lower income households.

Stop with the racial tones and start looking at it as we are on the same side for a change!
Brewha Offline
#314 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
You and Michael Bennett... comparing being paid MILLIONS to play a GAME to slavery.

Have you any idea how ridiculously stupid that is? They have the freedom to walk away from those millions. I won't hold my breath.

MACS, the phase “on the lighter side” means something to lighten up about, irony, levity.....

If you weren’t so fast with the indignation would would have appreciated that irony can in fact be pretty ironic....
Brewha Offline
#315 Posted:
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SteveS wrote:
He did not threaten to fire them ... he clearly did say those who knelt wouldn't play ...

oh, and if you have a job where you don't have to be even slightly concerned about instructions from your boss, you have a very unusual job ... irrespective of whether your boss is white, green, purple or blue ...

True, true.....do wat da man say, or youes mights get a wippin’.


At least they had the nerve to take a stand for what they believe.
(Ok, that was not phrased well....)
Brewha Offline
#316 Posted:
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shaun341 wrote:
Exactly!!!!! While people want to turn this into a race issue the government is laughing their way to the bank. We have morons complaining about slavery when I never meant a person living today that owned a slave. In the meantime we spend our days arguing about what race is in control the top 1% keep wages at a minimum and keep on segregating themselves from the middle and lower income households.

Stop with the racial tones and start looking at it as we are on the same side for a change!

Dude, it is a race issue. They are kneeling because blacks are getting killed too often by the police.

The reason they were kneeling - it really did not matter to you, did it?
MACS Offline
#317 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Dude, it is a race issue. They are kneeling because blacks are getting killed too often by the police.

The reason they were kneeling - it really did not matter to you, did it?


But a Harvard study by a black professor showed ZERO difference in the use of deadly force when it came to blacks.

I think for most people it isn't the protest that's the issue... it's how they're doing it, and the fact what they think they are protesting is bullshit.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/main-july_2016.pdf
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
If they really want to make a statement then they should (those too weak to stand!) drop to both knees like their leader and beg for their jobs!


The NFL is done with this clown running it and the caliber of players in the game now. Its a game, not a platform to ram whatever you want down the public's throat. It's no wonder why people are turning their backs at the game in droves. They've pussified the game to the point that you can't make a hit on somebody or celebrate a touchdown! The refs interject the game with bad calls and that used to be what fans griped about. Look at the dumpster fire now created by one guy that is an idiot for listening to his racist girlfriend. Applause Applause Applause

Maybe we should just ditch the NFL and bring back American Gladiator.

Zap was kinda hot.....
Brewha Offline
#319 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
But a Harvard study by a black professor showed ZERO difference in the use of deadly force when it came to blacks.

I think for most people it isn't the protest that's the issue... it's how they're doing it, and the fact what they think they are protesting is bullshit.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/main-july_2016.pdf

MACS!!!! You have done it!

Just send that link to the Black Live Matter movment, and you guys can have the NFL back!!!
MACS Offline
#320 Posted:
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I'm sure they've already seen it, and called the author an uncle tom.

It doesn't fit their narrative, so why would they pay it any attention? Why... I'll bet you didn't even bother reading it. You can't refute it, so why bother, right? Lets just make jokes because ya got nothing else.

Nothing.
Brewha Offline
#321 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I'm sure they've already seen it, and called the author an uncle tom.

It doesn't fit their narrative, so why would they pay it any attention? Why... I'll bet you didn't even bother reading it. You can't refute it, so why bother, right? Lets just make jokes because ya got nothing else.

Nothing.

Wait - aren't you one of the guys that don’t believe in climate change caused by industrial pollution even when NASA says so? Did not fit your narrative, right?


A lot of people feel there is an issue, and they are speaking out. A demand of patriotism. Bully for them....
MACS Offline
#322 Posted:
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LOL Change the subject, eh?

There are studies on both sides of the climate issue. You got a conflicting study on this issue?
victor809 Offline
#323 Posted:
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It's actually an interesting study brew. It's a long read, but has more information than many so far.

It does say there are an equal number of deaths for blacks. But it does also say there are a larger number of negative interactions for blacks.

Worth reading... the higher number of negative interactions could theoretically lead to the perception of higher deaths.

It does not go into the repercussions police get when killing an unarmed black vs a white, which is part of the protests. But the study is worth reading.

Just because the other side refuses to believe valid science on climate change in favor for bull**** is no reason to act the same.
Brewha Offline
#324 Posted:
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I bring up climate change because it is a nothworthy example of people not believing things that do not suit their narrative.


But -

I think people speaking out about injustice, perceived or real, in honorable and should be respected. It is what America is purportedly about.

And just to be clear, MACS, this BLM is a bull sh1t issue to you, right?
At least in comparison to the vaunted NFL.
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#325 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
True, true.....do wat da man say, or youes mights get a wippin’.


At least they had the nerve to take a stand for what they believe.
(Ok, that was not phrased well....)

Pretty sure they outlawed "wippen's" and slavery quite some time ago......

Pretty sure they call it assault and battery,kidnapping,and have made them hate crimes nowadaysNot talking
Brewha Offline
#326 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Pretty sure they outlawed "wippen's" and slavery quite some time ago......

Pretty sure they call it assault and battery,kidnapping,and have made them hate crimes nowadaysNot talking

True, true...

But you sure can get you a financial wippin’.



I prolly shouldn’t use to many metaphors, should I?
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#327 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Dude, it is a race issue. They are kneeling because blacks are getting killed too often by the police.

The reason they were kneeling - it really did not matter to you, did it?



You are wrong for starters because it is about oppression and only a couple have even mentioned the cop angle. Oppression is not a race thing (even though people want it to be) at all it is a poor thing, look up the statistics on crime areas. The poorer the area the more crime because people will do whatever when they don't care anymore and it snowballs from there. Oppression is about wages but people that do not understand that make it a race thing. I live in a poor area and it is probably 75% white and we struggle as a community to stay afloat (drugs have nearly taken over the area to the point even school teachers and lawyers are using) so oppression is not a black or white thing but a wages thing!
fishinguitarman Offline
#328 Posted:
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Un-American
DrafterX Offline
#329 Posted:
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Do you think Kaperdick woulda taken a knee if he was a starting QB... I kinda doubt it... He was protesting something else.. Mellow
SteveS Offline
#330 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Do you think Kaperdick woulda taken a knee if he was a starting QB... I kinda doubt it... He was protesting something else..


he didn't "take a knee" the first time ... he was slouched on a corner of the bench ... the general impression at the time was that he was depressed over being benched ... later, after reporters began questioning him over why he wasn't standing for the anthem, he seemed confused at first, then eventually came up with the oppressed black story ...

this last spring, after not finding himself to be a hot property in free agency as he imagined he was going to be, he made an announcement that he would be standing for the anthem now, since his original objectives had been achieved ... now that he still can't get a job, he's suing the league for conspiracy to deny him a job ...

well, no one has accused him of being overly bright and his behavior from he beginning has done nothing to dispel that notion should it somehow occur to someone ...
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#331 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
It's actually an interesting study brew. It's a long read, but has more information than many so far.

It does say there are an equal number of deaths for blacks. But it does also say there are a larger number of negative interactions for blacks.

Worth reading... the higher number of negative interactions could theoretically lead to the perception of higher deaths.

It does not go into the repercussions police get when killing an unarmed black vs a white, which is part of the protests. But the study is worth reading.

Just because the other side refuses to believe valid science on climate change in favor for bull**** is no reason to act the same.



Everyone forgets the black hobos
DrMaddVibe Offline
#332 Posted:
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SteveS wrote:
he didn't "take a knee" the first time ... he was slouched on a corner of the bench ... the general impression at the time was that he was depressed over being benched ... later, after reporters began questioning him over why he wasn't standing for the anthem, he seemed confused at first, then eventually came up with the oppressed black story ...

this last spring, after not finding himself to be a hot property in free agency as he imagined he was going to be, he made an announcement that he would be standing for the anthem now, since his original objectives had been achieved ... now that he still can't get a job, he's suing the league for conspiracy to deny him a job ...

well, no one has accused him of being overly bright and his behavior from he beginning has done nothing to dispel that notion should it somehow occur to someone ...



Let's not forget the pigs wearing police hats socks he was wearing as well.
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#333 Posted:
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I always stand, remove my hat and put my hand over my heart during the anthem...well not usually at home or in the car...but when in public and others might judge. It has saddened me somewhat over the years to see more and more people at sporting events sitting or talking through the anthem. I felt that Trump made a huge mistake by taking this on publicly and turned it into a vitriolic conversation in which both sides talk past each other and few listen to opposing views. If there's a group protesting something without much thought or direction, it generally goes away very quickly if ignored.

But, now I watch games and everybody in the stands is standing and attentive during the anthem. (Sure, some are attentively looking to see if there's kneeling players and not necessarily attentive to the flag and music.) I don't much care what any of the players do or don't do. But, I gotta admit that for people other than players, the resulting actions seem positive...hopefully not too temporary.
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#334 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
I always stand, remove my hat and put my hand over my heart during the anthem...well not usually at home or in the car...but when in public and others might judge. .


Mellow
tailgater Offline
#335 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Wait - aren't you one of the guys that don’t believe in climate change caused by industrial pollution even when NASA says so? Did not fit your narrative, right?


A lot of people feel there is an issue, and they are speaking out. A demand of patriotism. Bully for them....


A lot of people "feel" there is an issue because they WANT there to be an issue.
Hell, they NEED there to be an issue.



Brewha Offline
#336 Posted:
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shaun341 wrote:
You are wrong for starters because it is about oppression and only a couple have even mentioned the cop angle. Oppression is not a race thing (even though people want it to be) at all it is a poor thing, look up the statistics on crime areas. The poorer the area the more crime because people will do whatever when they don't care anymore and it snowballs from there. Oppression is about wages but people that do not understand that make it a race thing. I live in a poor area and it is probably 75% white and we struggle as a community to stay afloat (drugs have nearly taken over the area to the point even school teachers and lawyers are using) so oppression is not a black or white thing but a wages thing!

So.....they are kneeling because they want more money? Huh
DrafterX Offline
#337 Posted:
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Show Me da Money..!! Mad
Brewha Offline
#338 Posted:
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Maybe they are just kneeling to save energy before the game....



Or maybe someone dropped a twenty.....
wulfman Offline
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So the solution for all that are not involved, play or own NFL teams....is to not watch. I mean football is on its way out anyway. it won't be a high school sport in the near future. It's like BEEF, you spend way too much on help, food, land, and water to raise a cow. Its like taking a bite out of hamburger and throwing it away...well thats the beef industry.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#340 Posted:
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wulfman wrote:
So the solution for all that are not involved, play or own NFL teams....is to not watch. I mean football is on its way out anyway. it won't be a high school sport in the near future. It's like BEEF, you spend way too much on help, food, land, and water to raise a cow. Its like taking a bite out of hamburger and throwing it away...well thats the beef industry.



Good analogy.

Except the NFL is killing itself on the sidelines before it even gets to the pasture!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#341 Posted:
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http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/10/24/struggling-to-get-signed-kaepernick-meeting-publishers-to-pitch-book-idea.html?src=rss


OMG....this is AWESOME!!!

Who wants to read what this dip$hit has to say? Any takers on the title yet?


"How To Fail At Being A Young Talented Millionaire"

"NFL DOES mean Not For Long!"

"Black Lives Matter But You Have To Make Some Money"

"I Took A Knee, Now I Take The Bus"

"Please Buy This Book So I Can Eat"
tailgater Offline
#342 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
So.....they are kneeling because they want more money? Huh


I knew a girl like that.

Brewha Offline
#343 Posted:
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More than once?
tailgater Offline
#344 Posted:
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Back then, yes.

cacman Offline
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What does he have to write about that could possibly be worth $1M
I'm guess it will be a short story? Maybe a kids book?

Colin Kaepernick reportedly lands $1 million book deal
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/colin-kaepernick-reportedly-lands-1-million-book-deal/ar-AAtZYbh
TMCTLT Offline
#346 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
What does he have to write about that could possibly be worth $1M
I'm guess it will be a short story? Maybe a kids book?

Colin Kaepernick reportedly lands $1 million book deal
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/colin-kaepernick-reportedly-lands-1-million-book-deal/ar-AAtZYbh




It's probably about the life of privilege he led while being raised by White adoptive parents....and how that negatively affected him loooong term. Whistle
bgz Offline
#347 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
It's probably about the life of privilege he led while being raised by White adoptive parents....and how that negatively affected him loooong term. Whistle


And how he never had a chance to suckle a big brown bosom and how he was trapped by an evil succubus later in life because of those desires.
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#348 Posted:
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Oh no... how dare he write a book. And how dare someone be willing to pay hikm to write a book.

... you realize how petty you morons sound right? He can write a book or not write a book (which is more than one could probably say about you two right there)... it's no skin off your ads. Yet you're somehow bothered by it.

It's like you get bothered by every little thing. Goddamn snowflakes.
TMCTLT Offline
#349 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Oh no... how dare he write a book. And how dare someone be willing to pay hikm to write a book. Hey grammar Queeen....

... you realize how petty you morons sound right? He can write a book or not write a book (which is more than one could probably say about you two right there)... it's no skin off your ads. Yet you're somehow bothered by it. Not bothered by it, I think it's funny that he now has to resort to writing fiction to draw a paycheck

It's like you get bothered by every little thing. Goddamn snowflakes.



Your consistent if nothing else with your name calling...what a whiney little B I T C H

( oh say...that IS fun!!!! )

Save me Vicki....I'm melting lmao
victor809 Offline
#350 Posted:
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... did someone with your record on spelling and grammar just point out an obvious typo?

And then, after you whine about kapernick getting a book deal you call me a whiny bitch?....

I've said it many times, you have zero sense of irony.

And you're an idiot. I've also said that many times too.
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