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TMCTLT Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 8:40 AM EST
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Remember when our FORMER CIC stated to the nation that " every child should have the opportunity to attend college "

Apparently @ whatever cost.....@ least in the DC area.


http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/28/almost-every-graduate-of-dc-high-school-was-truant-yet-all-of-them-were-accepted-to-college/?utm_medium=email


The Ballou High School principal did not agree to an interview with WAMU, but two DCPS officials gave a statement to the outlet.

“It is expected that our students will be here every day,” DCPS Chief of Secondary Schools Jane Spence said. “But we also know that students learn material in lots of different ways. So we’ve started to recognize that students can have mastered material even if they’re not sitting in a physical space.”


That right there^^^^ Fking.....PRICELESS!!!!!


Apparently....@ least to an honest person, they cannot master **** other than SKIPPING SCHOOL
teedubbya Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 8:49 AM EST
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I don’t have the context here nor do I get the connection to Obama. Where is the rest of the story? This seems like a snippet from the end.

I assume it has nothing to do with home schooling or anything like that but can’t tell.

I missed many hours of high school using an outside work program.

I’m not saying you are wrong. Just didn’t give enough info.

DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 10:19 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Remember when our FORMER CIC stated to the nation that " every child should have the opportunity to attend college "

Apparently @ whatever cost.....@ least in the DC area.


Perhaps TW...it has to do with the investment of dollars and who's just taking up space that could be used for a REAL student.

I could be waaaay off base with the point being made here. Just my take on it.


Kinda like Solyndra. We HAVE to save them. 849 MILLION dollars later...with the US taxpayer put on the hook for it...the previous administration committed fraud and theft in the guise of picking winners. Much like taking hookey masters into Magna **** Laude!!!Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
teedubbya Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 10:49 AM EST
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Either the link wasn’t there earlier or I just missed it. All I said is I wanted context.

I’ll read it later. If it’s that clear then I agree.

Daily caller makes me pause though. Y’all really read these sites?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 10:52 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Daily caller makes me pause though. Y’all really read these sites?



I do. I even read democraticunderground. Never know where the story goes, or who is going to break it. Lil ol Drudge broke the Lewinsky story because nobody else was going to cover it. Matter of fact, Newsweek was sitting on it so it wouldn't break.
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 12:29 PM EST
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I heard Bert was making Ernie do stuff.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 1:36 PM EST
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Both of those last two posts seem to fit
delta1 Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 2:44 PM EST
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Why should we not aspire to be a nation where: " every child should have the opportunity to attend college " ?

A better educated population will help with our economic growth...
dstieger Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 2:58 PM EST
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https://wamu.org/story/17/11/28/really-happened-ballou-d-c-high-school-every-senior-got-college/
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 3:01 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Why should we not aspire to be a nation where: " every child should have the opportunity to attend college " ?

A better educated population will help with our economic growth...



Anybody who wants to go to college can go to college... not only the privileged go.. 'I can't afford it' is not an excuse... many leave with huge debt but they went to college to better themselves... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 3:04 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
https://wamu.org/story/17/11/28/really-happened-ballou-d-c-high-school-every-senior-got-college/


Stupid question...
But the article seems to do a bait and switch.

The article title seems to apply this to getting into college, in an attempt to make this about obama's statement.

The article seems to be questioning why these kids graduated high school.

Now I know one is a precursor for another... but getting into college also requires one score on SATs and in other ways prove one's merit.

The article seems to just focus on whether these kids should have graduated at all.

Whether they should have graduated is an interesting question, worthy of discussion (ie, is being present in class really important if you can pass the tests, or learn enough to score well on SATs and AP exams?) but the article appears to be trying to stuff it into some weird obama thing.
dstieger Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 3:17 PM EST
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IDK about bait and switch...but you're right - the title doesn't match the piece well. But, that's not unusual. Frequently, editors change headlines.

The article is much more about how they got through school...and doesn't even do a very good job of getting at that.

I didn't even notice the Obama mention - it isn't at all pertinent to the piece, I don't think
delta1 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 3:25 PM EST
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easy...don't try to figure it out...just accept it...

Here's the formula: see an example of an urban, inner city problem, where poor people are involved...link it to something Obama said or did that is tangential...admonish both Obama and poor inner city dwellers for not meeting the standards of behavior expected by the status quo...
victor809 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Nov 29 2017, 3:27 PM EST
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Sorry dsteig. No mention of Obama in the article. I carried that over from the original post.
Brewha Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 4:46 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Why should we not aspire to be a nation where: " every child should have the opportunity to attend college " ?

I heard that was a communist idea.

Yeah, I was watching FoxNews......
Anxious
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 4:55 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Why should we not aspire to be a nation where: " every child should have the opportunity to attend college " ?

A better educated population will help with our economic growth...

cuz somebody gotta dig ditches
Brewha Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 5:30 PM EST
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And free education leads to welfare breeding.....

But if you give the rich even more tax breaks and tax the poor more, it will create jobs.
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 5:49 PM EST
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Is it that hard to believe that corps will invest in their companies instead of pocketing the money.. the more employees they hire will increase their bottom lines if all goes well.. plus the new employees will be paying taxes and buying homes...
But I guess it's easier to assume they're all breeding bassards... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 6:03 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Is it that hard to believe that corps will invest in their companies instead of pocketing the money.. the more employees they hire will increase their bottom lines if all goes well.. plus the new employees will be paying taxes and buying homes...
But I guess it's easier to assume they're all breeding bassards... Mellow

Hard to believe in trickle down - which is the subtext here.
Sure, profitable business expand and “create” jobs. But just like you and me, they need to pay their taxes. IF - None of us payed taxes the economy would boom! We would all buy new cars, go out to dinner, bulk buy toilet paper. So where is our 10% tax break? Instead we loose deductions for state income tax, mortgage, student loads.....

Big business now pays to get their candidate elected and to passivate the peeps.
So they just take care of number one.
And number one ain’t you.

You ain’t even number two....




BOHICA
delta1 Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 6:07 PM EST
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If you would try some other news source, Drafter, it wouldn't be hard to believe...

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/17/ceos-admit-they-wont-create-jobs-with-their-tax-cut-money/


That mythical line of garbage has been used by GOP tax-cutters since Reagan's "Trickle Down" economy was trumped up...

edit: Brewha types faster than me and has a more dramatic literary style...
Brewha Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 6:36 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:

edit: Brewha types faster than me and has a more dramatic literary style...


Kind of you Delta, thx.

I apologize for the ongoing and unremitting purple prose.
If it makes it better, it drives my wife crazy too.
victor809 Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 6:52 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Is it that hard to believe that corps will invest in their companies instead of pocketing the money.. the more employees they hire will increase their bottom lines if all goes well.. plus the new employees will be paying taxes and buying homes...
But I guess it's easier to assume they're all breeding bassards... Mellow



The same reason I'm against creating a single payer for pharmaceutical companies....

All the damn liberals seem to think that if they work to limit the amount of revenue a pharma can get for its product that'll totally just reduce the profit the owners will collect, and that'll show them. But the reality is that no one reduces profit when revenue is down. Hell, they don't even reduce marketing. They reduce R&D because there's less incentive to have new products.

Same thing applies with giving companies this free money. They aren't going to re-invest it... no significant improvement in the market to justify it. Theyll pocket it.
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 6:58 PM EST
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Is it an incentive to bring companies back from overseas or across the borders.. ?? Huh
MACS Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 7:08 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
cuz somebody gotta dig ditches


Exactly... and not everyone has the aptitude for college. Some people can't find their way out of a wet paper sack with a flashlight and a hatchet, and one end open... but they can weld, or fix engines, or clear pipes, or hang drywall.

All professions that pay the bills. We already have a bunch of dipsh*ts racking up astronomical college loan debt, and not even finishing school... or worse, finishing with a bullsh*t degree and can't find a job.
victor809 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 7:31 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Is it an incentive to bring companies back from overseas or across the borders.. ?? Huh


Doubtful

Why would it be? You still have to contend with labor rates. Of course, there is a chance that individuals in the republican party are pushing to turn us into a 3rd world country and drive labor rates down. I'm fine with that, as long as it's other people's labor rate. I like mine.

Best case scenario you can reduce the number of companies in the future who may choose to leave the US
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 8:49 PM EST
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That's not a bad thing either... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 9:53 PM EST
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Bit how much money do you have to give up to retain those marginal companies? Are you willing to give up 2MM in tax revenue to retain 1M in wages in the USA? That wouldn't be a smart move.

(Note, I don't know where we are along the curve. I'm sure someone could figure it out and publish it if they actually cared about making smart business decisions and not knee jerk reactions to their base. Depending on where we are on the curve it could be smart. But I am gonna need a bit more than "trust me" from the orange menace. A simple graph would actually work)
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 10:52 PM EST
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They say the tax cuts will create a deficit but they're ignoring the current one.. nothing happens overnight... I don't believe corps or peoples will put money under da mattress.. Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Dec 2 2017, 7:54 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Why should we not aspire to be a nation where: " every child should have the opportunity to attend college " ?

A better educated population will help with our economic growth...



No argument there....but your assuming they actually had the credits to pass instead of being GIVIN A PASS which is what seems to have happened here. Just another Obama leg up for his peeps, nothing more.
teedubbya Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Dec 2 2017, 10:32 AM EST
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I don’t see obama on this one at all. But to some the boogeyman is everywhere. At least the boogeyman wasn’t born here. Hopefully the wall will keep him out.
DrafterX Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Dec 2 2017, 11:21 AM EST
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Candyman lives in Chicago... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Dec 2 2017, 11:24 AM EST
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I thought Sammie Davis was from LA......Think
DrafterX Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Dec 2 2017, 11:54 AM EST
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I seen his wife's boobs once... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Dec 3 2017, 12:17 PM EST
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Where they fair and balanced?
DrafterX Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Dec 3 2017, 12:23 PM EST
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Yes... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#36 Posted: Sun, Dec 3 2017, 12:40 PM EST
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Sammy Davis had a lot of eyes Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Dec 3 2017, 12:44 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Sammy Davis had a lot of eyes Mellow

one for every outfit
DrafterX Offline
#38 Posted: Mon, Dec 4 2017, 1:22 PM EST
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My wife has a one-eyed cat... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Dec 4 2017, 1:25 PM EST
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if it had two that would be weird
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