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Gotta love global warming
Abrignac Offline
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It’s currently 15 degrees in south Louisiana. Normally it snows once every 7 years or so. We got about an inch of snow last night. About 5 inches one day last month. Thanks Chicken Little oops I mean Al Gore.
frankj1 Offline
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no expert here, not sure what parts or any are correct, but pretty sure extreme weather of all kinds is part of it.

you're experiencing days of weather, the scientists who believe are talking climate..two different things.

How are ya Anth?!!!
tailgater Offline
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Yeah.

Weather can only be used to PROVE global warming.

Ask the Boston Mayor.



jjanecka Offline
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Even if the earth got warmer we still have awesome barrier, ****, and levee technology. In addition more areas would become farmable allowing more people to live. A democrat's worst nightmare.
frankj1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Yeah.

Weather can only be used to PROVE global warming.

Ask the Boston Mayor.




Anthony is using it to disprove.
Tell Walsh to fight with Abrignac
Abrignac Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
no expert here, not sure what parts or any are correct, but pretty sure extreme weather of all kinds is part of it.

you're experiencing days of weather, the scientists who believe are talking climate..two different things.

How are ya Anth?!!!


Doing great Frankie T. Busy as I can be.

Drove to Baton Rouge this morning to look at a couple upcoming jobs. Passed a vehicle in the ditch about every mile or so.

Ran my truck in 4x4 Auto. The only sliding I did was intentional.

About to head out in a few minutes to go look at another job.
delta1 Offline
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be careful on the ladder, boss...
Abrignac Offline
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delta1 wrote:
be careful on the ladder, boss...



I limit my ladder time now. Sometimes its hard to remember that I pay people to do what I don't need to do.......
Ewok126 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
I limit my ladder time now. Sometimes its hard to remember that I pay people to do what I don't need to do.......


Yep and if they should fall I would think they wouldn't throw the saw! Gonz
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It's almost always in the mid-80's out here.

But last night, with the wind and rain earlier... it got down to 78!! I wasn't deterred, I still sat out on the Vets Hall patio and had a couple of cigars after midnight, after work.

Beer
Abrignac Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
Yep and if they should fall I would think they wouldn't throw the saw! Gonz


They better not. I've got workman's comp ins. It'll pay 'em if they end up in a body cast for 6 months. But, my tools aren't covered.
Ewok126 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
They better not. I've got workman's comp ins. It'll pay 'em if they end up in a body cast for 6 months. But, my tools aren't covered.



Dang Skippy... Here is the training video for the newbies if they should fall what to do. Same concept rookie takes bottom tool takes top.

https://youtu.be/pr000tbRju8?t=5s

Whistle
Brewha Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
It’s currently 15 degrees in south Louisiana. Normally it snows once every 7 years or so. We got about an inch of snow last night. About 5 inches one day last month. Thanks Chicken Little oops I mean Al Gore.

Anthony, while no one enjoys a good joke more than me, you have got to relies that we have a lot of not-so-gifted people that really don't get that pollution effects the environment. They really do think that a cold day is evidence that the globe is not heating up from the green house gases. There are more people with drag marks on there knuckles than we think.

And they have friends that see these witticisms and decide that there is no world hunger because Micky-D's is having a two for one sale.

Sorry about you weather though - not real typical for south LA....
DrafterX Offline
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Sounds like global cooling to me... I'm predicting it won't last more than a month or two tho... Mellow
Brewha Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Sounds like global cooling to me... I'm predicting it won't last more than a month or two tho... Mellow

Drafter! Woot

Funny, I was just thinking of you....
delta1 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Sounds like global cooling to me... I'm predicting it won't last more than a month or two tho... Mellow


you got half right...

"...the last three years — 2015, 2016 and 2017 — the hottest ones since 1880. In fact, both analyses agree that five of the hottest years have occurred just since 2010."

from: http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-global-temperatures-2017-20180118-story.html
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
you got half right...

"...the last three years — 2015, 2016 and 2017 — the hottest ones since 1880. In fact, both analyses agree that five of the hottest years have occurred just since 2010."

from: http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-global-temperatures-2017-20180118-story.html


It's funny.

Our climate is in a warming trend.
But liberals need to point out things like this. Even when (if) they're expected.

And at the end of the day, nobody can say whether a warmer earth would be a good or bad thing.
I mean, will half a degree definitely be a negative? And if so, would we be equally worried if the world were heading in global Ice Age where the world was half a degree cooler?
Are we so sure that a swing in either direction is definitely bad?

But in the meantime we'll mortgage our children's future (fact) because climate change MIGHT be caused by taxable man-made actions (speculation).

The "debate" is just a smoke screen.
Nobody cares about the facts unless they're easy to understand like average temperature during a calendar year.

The earth exists.
And it exists TODAY because it has adapted over her 6,000 year existence (calm down. joke).

And species have come and gone. Not because of half a degree. Nor because of an inch change in ocean levels.
Survival of the fittest shows that living creatures and their mother earth are resilient.

Make laws to protect the environment from those who rape it. I will sing that tune every day.

But don't assume I'm a stupid lemming and tell me that my taxes will curb global climate changes and that this is a necessary thing. Because the only thing that it will definitely do is take my money. With zero guarantee that it will curb a temperature curve. And zero guarantee that if we don't it will be bad for the earth.

Rant off.
HuckFinn Offline
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Nothing to do with Liberals. It's freaking SCIENTISTS sounding the alarm...
*It's hopeless Huck...hava smoke..
frankj1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:

The earth exists.
And it exists TODAY because it has adapted over her 6,000 year existence (calm down. joke).


not just a joke, but a Prequel Joke!
Feeling the love, bruddah.
DrafterX Offline
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It is a Liberal agenda... Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
It's funny.

Our climate is in a warming trend.
But liberals need to point out things like this. Even when (if) they're expected.

And at the end of the day, nobody can say whether a warmer earth would be a good or bad thing.
I mean, will half a degree definitely be a negative? And if so, would we be equally worried if the world were heading in global Ice Age where the world was half a degree cooler?
Are we so sure that a swing in either direction is definitely bad?

But in the meantime we'll mortgage our children's future (fact) because climate change MIGHT be caused by taxable man-made actions (speculation).

The "debate" is just a smoke screen.
Nobody cares about the facts unless they're easy to understand like average temperature during a calendar year.

The earth exists.
And it exists TODAY because it has adapted over her 6,000 year existence (calm down. joke).

And species have come and gone. Not because of half a degree. Nor because of an inch change in ocean levels.
Survival of the fittest shows that living creatures and their mother earth are resilient.

Make laws to protect the environment from those who rape it. I will sing that tune every day.

But don't assume I'm a stupid lemming and tell me that my taxes will curb global climate changes and that this is a necessary thing. Because the only thing that it will definitely do is take my money. With zero guarantee that it will curb a temperature curve. And zero guarantee that if we don't it will be bad for the earth.

Rant off.


I heard it was caused by Cow FartsThink d'oh!
DrafterX Offline
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That's why the price of beef went up... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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if it was only half a degree or so...

I dunno...sea level rise isn't too bad here in SoCal and we haven't had much extreme weather conditions (knock wood)...but I hear beachfront property owners in Miami and other places are worried about the rising Atlantic...

we should ask our brethren in Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas how they like Cat 5s a few times a year...or freezing temps in the South along with snow...


and nobody ever thinks about the homeless polar bears...
banderl Offline
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delta1 wrote:
if it was only half a degree or so...

I dunno...sea level rise isn't too bad here in SoCal and we haven't had much extreme weather conditions (knock wood)...but I hear beachfront property owners in Miami and other places are worried about the rising Atlantic...

we should ask our brethren in Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas how they like Cat 5s a few times a year...or freezing temps in the South along with snow...


and nobody ever thinks about the homeless polar bears...



Isn't there a relationship with climate change and all of the fires that you guys are having out there?
victor809 Offline
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banderl wrote:
Isn't there a relationship with climate change and all of the fires that you guys are having out there?



I don't think I've read of one necessarily...

High winds and dry conditions can possibly be blamed on climate change, but honestly, winds are variable enough that I wouldn't necessarily think that could be traced easily... and dry conditions... well... that may be.
banderl Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I don't think I've read of one necessarily...

High winds and dry conditions can possibly be blamed on climate change, but honestly, winds are variable enough that I wouldn't necessarily think that could be traced easily... and dry conditions... well... that may be.



The dry conditions are the cause of the fires, no?
Has the occurrence of fires increased in the past few years?
Seems like it.
frankj1 Offline
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Steely Dan sang about them Santa Ana winds...or something like that
DrafterX Offline
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Many of the fires are arson... You gonna blame global warming on the arsonists state of mind too..?? Huh
banderl Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Many of the fires are arson... You gonna blame global warming on the arsonists state of mind too..?? Huh



Doesn't matter how they start, it's how they burn.
delta1 Offline
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There've been a long history of wildfires in our state, due to the weather patterns that have occurred naturally: the occasional El Nino that spurs rapid vegetation growth and then the dry windy conditions that follow....Can't really pin it on climate change because the patterns pre-date that phenomena.
banderl Offline
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delta1 wrote:
There've been a long history of wildfires in our state, due to the weather patterns that have occurred naturally: the occasional El Nino that spurs rapid vegetation growth and then the dry windy conditions that follow....Can't really pin it on climate change because the patterns pre-date that phenomena.



Thank you for the explanation.
delta1 Offline
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ThumpUp
tailgater Offline
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banderl wrote:
Isn't there a relationship with climate change and all of the fires that you guys are having out there?


Overpopulation and non-indigenous plants in a formerly arid environment.



tailgater Offline
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banderl wrote:
The dry conditions are the cause of the fires, no?
Has the occurrence of fires increased in the past few years?
Seems like it.


See what you're doing?
You're trying to make the data fit your preconceived notion.
delta1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Overpopulation and non-indigenous plants in a formerly arid environment.






Those factors can contribute, since some wildfires are started by man-made ignition sources (power lines, fuel stations, etc.) in places that were uninhabited a few decades ago...we really must do something about all these people moving here...

Maybe we can goad Trump into calling this state a sh*ithole...
banderl Offline
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Why are they consuming more acreage than they have in the past?
Legit question.
tailgater Offline
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banderl wrote:
Why are they consuming more acreage than they have in the past?
Legit question.


Southern CA is a dry place.
Indigenous plants for the arid environment are ugly, but they are healthy during dry months.
People bring in pretty plants that aren't native and the arid weather dries them out to the point where rapidly spreading fires are inevitable.

Just part of the equation.


banderl Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Southern CA is a dry place.
Indigenous plants for the arid environment are ugly, but they are healthy during dry months.
People bring in pretty plants that aren't native and the arid weather dries them out to the point where rapidly spreading fires are inevitable.

Just part of the equation.





So it's burning more acreage because of invasive species?

Maybe I could get away with burning my neighbors buckthorn and mulberry trees down and blame it on climate change.
bgz Offline
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^ that's an awesome idea, I would run with it.
tailgater Offline
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banderl wrote:
So it's burning more acreage because of invasive species?

Maybe I could get away with burning my neighbors buckthorn and mulberry trees down and blame it on climate change.


You're confusing weather with climate...

And to think that I burned down the Mulberry tree...


RMAN4443 Offline
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banderl wrote:
Why are they consuming more acreage than they have in the past?
Legit question.

due to climate change, the rising sea levels are causing a water shortageThink Not talking
frankj1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
You're confusing weather with climate...

And to think that I burned down the Mulberry tree...



source: Dr. Suess?
delta1 Offline
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banderl wrote:
So it's burning more acreage because of invasive species?

Maybe I could get away with burning my neighbors buckthorn and mulberry trees down and blame it on climate change.



Not necessarily...it depends on the location of the fire, whether any human structures are threatened, the difficulty of fighting fires in rough terrain, weather conditions (strength and direction of winds, high temperatures and dry/low humidity levels) and available firefighting resources.

This fire season was particularly difficult because so many fires were burning simultaneously due to most of those factors persisting over many days. The biggest one that consumed so much acreage was allowed to burn because it was too expensive to extinguish in the uninhabited rough terrain that it burned. Available resources were used to build fire breaks to protect inhabited areas, rather than try to fight a fire spread over such a large area.

CA is a large state with many mountainous forest regions and chaparral plains that can burn rapidly.
TMCTLT Offline
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banderl wrote:
Doesn't matter how they start, it's how they burn.






Oh my....d'oh!
gummy jones Offline
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I know that any weather that occurs is evidence of man made global climate warming change. However, for those of us keeping notes at home, is cold global warming or hot global warming worse? Should I be more afraid of last year's mild winter or the frigid ones that bracketed it?

Remember how stupid we were when he called floods and earthquakes natural disasters? Glad we have cleared up that nomenclature over the past decade.
DrafterX Offline
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We haven't used our tidal wave machine in a while... Mellow
tailgater Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
source: Dr. Suess?


Thank you.
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