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CI / CC relationship and best site overall ?
Fr. Bob Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2017
Posts: 28
Howdy all,

before the shouting begins, take pity on the new guy.
I'm CERTAIN this has been covered ad nauseum, but I have searched diligently and can't find any threads...

Would one of you kind folks point me to past thread/s that address my question?

Thanks in Advance.

? CI and CC are obviously "related" endeavors ( sharing the same adress and all ). I have looked at both and apart from them having a bit of a different "personality" they be's mostly the same, no?

is one superior to the other? different market niche? chasing different customers?

insights appreciated

Fr. Bob
dstieger Offline
#2 Posted:
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Cbid is the auction side of CI. C***.com shares some storage and distribution, but is a different company
Fr. Bob Offline
#3 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
Cbid is the auction side of CI. C***.com shares some storage and distribution, but is a different company


Very interesting. Must also be "sharing" some IT expertise, seems to much alike to be an accident. If I was a company and a competitors site mimicked mine so closely I'd be calling the lawyer.

Fr. Bob
midmofan Offline
#4 Posted:
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It's a different company but, ultimately (if you go up the chain) owned by the same folks.
midmofan Offline
#5 Posted:
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As is the pipes and cigars site...
shaun341 Offline
#6 Posted:
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Competitors though so watch referencing them on here
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted:
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I would have put " " around the term IT expertise .
Fr. Bob Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2017
Posts: 28
gang,

so, still no suggested threads that address the overarching question; makes me ask what are the strengths and weaknesses of each... I 'spose i'll eventually figger it out on my own, but ideas are appreciated.
I'm VERY open to PM's should you wish to be discreet and all. ( the Soldier in me hmmmmm's.... can IT et, al read PM's? )
I'd just appreciate any inside baseball should y'all be interested in sharing.

CBid is owned by CI....
CI and CC are "somehow" in bed together....
anybody wish to opine as to whom is beter'n whom? or is that, too, a subtlety?

Anyhoo, TIA

Fr. Bob
RobertHively Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 01-14-2015
Posts: 1,761
Fr. Bob wrote:
gang,

so, still no suggested threads that address the overarching question; makes me ask what are the strengths and weaknesses of each... I 'spose i'll eventually figger it out on my own, but ideas are appreciated.
I'm VERY open to PM's should you wish to be discreet and all. ( the Soldier in me hmmmmm's.... can IT et, al read PM's? )
I'd just appreciate any inside baseball should y'all be interested in sharing.

CBid is owned by CI....
CI and CC are "somehow" in bed together....
anybody wish to opine as to whom is beter'n whom? or is that, too, a subtlety?

Anyhoo, TIA

Fr. Bob


There's really not much else to say. All the companies you named are subsidiaries of a large multi-national corporation...I think it's "Swedish Match". So no matter which subsidiary you buy from the money you spend will ultimately end up in the same place. The people who founded CI also started all the other companies. They sold them all off at the same time about a year ago.

As far as which one is better...it depends on what cigar you are looking for at the time. One branch might be running a deal on X cigar while the other has a deal on Y. If you're looking for X then choose the subsidiary that has a sale going on for X. You just got to shop around.
Fr. Bob Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2017
Posts: 28
Bro. Robert,

Thank You.
Guess I didn't think it was quite so large a venture. I think you get the gold star for answering my question.
Well, at least it's not Thompson !

Fr. Bob
sfg391 Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 01-12-2014
Posts: 124
shaun341 wrote:
Competitors though so watch referencing them on here



Fr. Bob wrote:
Bro. Robert,

Thank You.
Guess I didn't think it was quite so large a venture. I think you get the gold star for answering my question.
Well, at least it's not Thompson !

Fr. Bob


Shame on you
tweoijfoi Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 09-22-2010
Posts: 395
Even if they are owned by the same parent, I'll say I've had very different experiences between them. There's one I won't deal with (won't mention names) but Cbid and mothership have always been good to me.

Edit: Besides some issues last year
midmofan Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
As I recall, the guys that used to own CI stores started one web page of their own then bought a competitor web site that for legal/tax/other reasons, kept going but separate, then the website directly owned by CI bought cbid, than the guys sold the two lines separately to corporate. Now at least one of the original cbid folks is with a competitor. I think the original idea was that when they sold one company, they would still have the other, but both would up in the same corporate family.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
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midmofan wrote:
As I recall, the guys that used to own CI, bought one web site that was then owned by CI, another, that for legal/tax/other reasons, kept separate than sold both separately to corporate. Now at least one of them is with a competitor. I think the idea was that when they sold one, they would still have the other but both would up in the same corporate family.



Keith and John, who are two of the guys who started CI went and started another internet sales company. Ironically, it's located at CI's original warehouse address...
I suspect they owned the building independently of CI and IIRC CI had already moved to the new location before the Swedish Match buyout.
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