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Is CBID shutting down ?
tank71663 Offline
#101 Posted:
Joined: 07-04-2004
Posts: 4,230
Way to kill what was a great site.... Wow
ShanaC@CigarBid Offline
#102 Posted:
Joined: 09-22-2010
Posts: 1,090
bs_kwaj wrote:
Free Fall bid....

"An error occurred while processing your bid."

Beer


Yes, IT is working on this now.
buzscags Offline
#103 Posted:
Joined: 11-21-2009
Posts: 1
This site sucks.Bring back the old one.
tamapatom Offline
#104 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2015
Posts: 7,381
Accessing on smartphone still doesn't allow you to see what you just typed. For what that's worth.
tweoijfoi Offline
#105 Posted:
Joined: 09-22-2010
Posts: 395
KingoftheCove wrote:
Worked 12 hours today......got in what may be the last post on the old site..............couldn't wait to get home to see the new "upgrade"...

Peckerhead, I'm afraid they used the same "crack" team to design this new awesome version.
And no mobile site?..........hmm................guess cbid decided to get waaaaaaay ahead of the curve here..........yeah..........mobile sites are a thing of the past.

It would be funny...........................if it wasn't so sad.


Looks good on my phone. Definitely not the desktop site. Ah... when I shrink down on desktop it turns into mobile.
ShanaC@CigarBid Offline
#106 Posted:
Joined: 09-22-2010
Posts: 1,090
tamapatom wrote:
Accessing on smartphone still doesn't allow you to see what you just typed. For what that's worth.


Tom - Is that happening for the search function or only the forum?
Pudding Mittens Offline
#107 Posted:
Joined: 08-15-2016
Posts: 1,291
KingoftheCove wrote:
guess cbid decided to get waaaaaaay ahead of the curve here..........yeah..........mobile sites are a thing of the past.

Google's search results algorithm heavily penalizes sites with two separate desktop and mobile versions, and rewards sites with only a single "responsive" version that works on both desktop and mobile.

Google penalizing your business is very costly. Thus, everyone's moving toward single, "responsive" sites for all devices, desktop, tablet and smartphone.

Unfortunately, they tend to work okay on phones, semi-decently on tablets, but on desktops they're usually crappy, and look like a smartphone version stretched to fit a giant desktop monitor, with buttons that are way too large (because everything has to be 'touch-friendly' now, and fingers are far larger and less precise than a mouse pointer), and usually text that's way too large, too (because smartphones have tiny screens, and using desktop-sized text on them would make it nearly unreadable without pinch-zoom, which is a HUGE usability/UX no-no for sites that will be viewed on phones).

I don't like it, and neither do lots of other web developers and businesspeople, but it's the way of the world, thanks to Google. Not much can be done about it.

One benefit is a single codebase to maintain, not two, which reduces effort and web developer labor needs, which is great if you're the business, but not-so-great if you're a web developer who got laid off because of it.

It's also no fun for desktop users, who are slowly seeing site after site turn from feature-rich with useful sidebars and appropriately-sized buttons and text, to feature-stripped sites with no sidebars, needlessly giant buttons and text, etc.
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Speyside Offline
#108 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2015
Posts: 13,106
Interesting and enlightening mittens, thanks.
midmofan Offline
#109 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
It's also no fun for desktop users, who are slowly seeing site after site turn from feature-rich with useful sidebars and appropriately-sized buttons and text, to feature-stripped sites with no sidebars, needlessly giant buttons and text, etc.

Sports Illustrated did this several years ago and it actually killed their web traffic and resulted in a huge backlash as most of their viewers were, apparently, desktop types at work. While they did make some changes that made it better, they said that the Tablet-friendly market was the future and that is what they were shooting for.
midmofan Offline
#110 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
tamapatom wrote:
Accessing on smartphone still doesn't allow you to see what you just typed. For what that's worth.


Tom - Is that happening for the search function or only the forum?


I am not seeing this on my smartphone. Can see all the text I am typing in replies and searches. Also, the site seems to be going faster.

I AM sometimes having trouble on the smartphone when i hit the "back" button and all i get is a white screen. nothing works but exiting website and re-joining.
bs_kwaj Offline
#111 Posted:
Joined: 02-13-2006
Posts: 5,214
ShanaC@CigarBid wrote:
Yes, IT is working on this now.


I'm a patient guy. BigGrin

Beer
cacman Offline
#112 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2010
Posts: 12,216
Probably would have been a good idea to debug the new development BEFORE launching it.

Guess it's built-in job security for the IT department.
KingoftheCove Offline
#113 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 7,603
Pudding Mittens wrote:
Google's search results algorithm heavily penalizes sites with two separate desktop and mobile versions, and rewards sites with only a single "responsive" version that works on both desktop and mobile.

Google penalizing your business is very costly. Thus, everyone's moving toward single, "responsive" sites for all devices, desktop, tablet and smartphone.

Unfortunately, they tend to work okay on phones, semi-decently on tablets, but on desktops they're usually crappy, and look like a smartphone version stretched to fit a giant desktop monitor, with buttons that are way too large (because everything has to be 'touch-friendly' now, and fingers are far larger and less precise than a mouse pointer), and usually text that's way too large, too (because smartphones have tiny screens, and using desktop-sized text on them would make it nearly unreadable without pinch-zoom, which is a HUGE usability/UX no-no for sites that will be viewed on phones).

I don't like it, and neither do lots of other web developers and businesspeople, but it's the way of the world, thanks to Google. Not much can be done about it.

One benefit is a single codebase to maintain, not two, which reduces effort and web developer labor needs, which is great if you're the business, but not-so-great if you're a web developer who got laid off because of it.

It's also no fun for desktop users, who are slowly seeing site after site turn from feature-rich with useful sidebars and appropriately-sized buttons and text, to feature-stripped sites with no sidebars, needlessly giant buttons and text, etc.
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Excellent explanation Puddin.......thanks for that.
Maybe, as Jobs silently, and semi publicly predicted, the era of traditional laptops and desktops is coming to an end for most users.

And Thanks Obama.........er........Google!
tamapatom Offline
#114 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2015
Posts: 7,381
midmofan wrote:
tamapatom wrote:
Accessing on smartphone still doesn't allow you to see what you just typed. For what that's worth.


Tom - Is that happening for the search function or only the forum?


I am not seeing this on my smartphone. Can see all the text I am typing in replies and searches. Also, the site seems to be going faster.

I AM sometimes having trouble on the smartphone when i hit the "back" button and all i get is a white screen. nothing works but exiting website and re-joining.

Its the search function and returning member sign in...............the prefilled text overrides what you type until you have enough characters to go past....for example my email address reads ail.com......all the other letters are covered up. Same for product search for bid items.
24132413 Offline
#115 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2017
Posts: 555
buzscags wrote:
This site sucks.Bring back the old one.



.....it doesn't SUCK but some nice shat from the old is missing. Doesn't show what is starting today, closing today breakdown like it did before. Set up more like the OTHER 2 less popular Cigar Auctions from PA and FL that where nearly as good in any way. horse
tonygraz Offline
#116 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 20,175
tamapatom wrote:
my email address reads ail.com......all the other letters are covered up.


I hope you feel better soon, Tom.
tamapatom Offline
#117 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2015
Posts: 7,381
Feeling better already................
Shacker8 Offline
#118 Posted:
Joined: 01-29-2018
Posts: 1
I won 3 auctions last night within 30 minutes of each other. I received a You Won confirmation email for only one of them. Starting to worry there's a snafu that's going to cost me two pretty good deals.
midmofan Offline
#119 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
I can't prove because the website leaves no evidence, it but in an auction I bid on yesterday, the cigars I was bidding on changed. It went from a tin of 5 Obsidians to a 5'er of a different size. I just put in a small bid to see how the new system was working and I lost the bid in any case, but it was still strange.
midmofan Offline
#120 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
tamapatom wrote:
Its the search function and returning member sign in...............the prefilled text overrides what you type until you have enough characters to go past....for example my email address reads ail.com......all the other letters are covered up. Same for product search for bid items.


Yeah, I'm not seeing that on my Note 8. Nothing covered up. There is text in the box (ie Search Product Name or Keyword ) when first call it up, but as soon as I click on the box to input text the words get small and move out of the way above the text line. Same with returning customer, nothing covered up.
archangel717 Offline
#121 Posted:
Joined: 06-27-2005
Posts: 4
I assume that it's well known the bids on free falls is not working? I've been trying to snag two for about 24 hours and every time I submit I get an error and the price resets. Very frustrating.
midmofan Offline
#122 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 1,108
archangel717 wrote:
I assume that it's well known the bids on free falls is not working? I've been trying to snag two for about 24 hours and every time I submit I get an error and the price resets. Very frustrating.


I believe in a response above to this issue, Shana said they were working on it. No update since then that I find.
Fr. Bob Offline
#123 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2017
Posts: 28
Phil222 wrote:
It's been real, gentleman. Catch ya'll on the flip-flop...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw


Hey, wait....
That's not Latin. I don't understand. Now I am skeered.
( for the record boys and girls, there has been VERY little quality in music since about 1780 +/- )

I will Pray.

Fr. Bob
Fr. Bob Offline
#124 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2017
Posts: 28
thurson wrote:
Sarcasm

There's no chortling on Cbid!



Thurson, Please forgive me. I chortled; not on the actual site, but whilst sitting at my desk. Is that, too, verboten?
I will mortify my flesh appropriately, and try not to offend again.

genuinely sorrowful and humiliated.

Fr. Bob
tonygraz Offline
#125 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 20,175
Veni, vidi, vomite
Fr. Bob Offline
#126 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2017
Posts: 28
tank71663 wrote:
Way to kill what was a great site.... Wow


Now hear this...

Deeeeep breaths, slowly inhale, slowly exhale.
This is no different that the Army, 'ceptin perhaps there are no bullets.
Nobody has or will die because of all this...
that's it... more deeeeep breaths. Find the humor. Find your happy place...
imagine youre in a canoe on a still lake, early morning mist on the water, flyrod in hand, smoking a nice Ghurka.
Ok, that kinda killed the allusion... sub the Ghurka with a real cigar of your choice.
Breathe.

I'm available by PM if you need personal prayer attention.

Fr, Bob
RMAN4443 Offline
#127 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 7,683
Fr. Bob wrote:
Now hear this...

Deeeeep breaths, slowly inhale, slowly exhale.
This is no different that the Army, 'ceptin perhaps there are no bullets.
Nobody has or will die because of all this...
that's it... more deeeeep breaths. Find the humor. Find your happy place...
imagine youre in a canoe on a still lake, early morning mist on the water, flyrod in hand, smoking a nice Ghurka.
Ok, that kinda killed the allusion... sub the Ghurka with a real cigar of your choice.
Breathe.

I'm available by PM if you need personal prayer attention.

Fr, Bob

Oh Lord won't you buy me a color TV, Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me........Whistle
Fr. Bob Offline
#128 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2017
Posts: 28
RMAN,

I have a 40 year old RCA buried deep in the garage. It's a Classic.
I can dig it out for you and get it on the way if'n you're deprived. Would be fabulous for watching reruns of Glee !!!

Fr. Bob
Fr. Bob Offline
#129 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2017
Posts: 28
tonygraz wrote:
Veni, vidi, vomite


Generally considered impolite to conjugate in public. Tsk Tsk Tsk

Fr. Bob
RMAN4443 Offline
#130 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 7,683
Fr. Bob wrote:
RMAN,

I have a 40 year old RCA buried deep in the garage. It's a Classic.
I can dig it out for you and get it on the way if'n you're deprived. Would be fabulous for watching reruns of Glee !!!

Fr. Bob

40 years old.....that's perfect for watching Dialing For DollarsBeer
bs_kwaj Offline
#131 Posted:
Joined: 02-13-2006
Posts: 5,214

Picture yourself in a boat on a river
With tangerine trees and marmalade skies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly
A girl with kaleidoscope eyes

Cellophane flowers of yellow and green
Towering over your head
Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes
And she's gone

Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Ah

Follow her down to a bridge by a fountain
Where rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies
Everyone smiles as you drift past the flowers
That grow so incredibly high

Newspaper taxis appear on the shore
Waiting to take you away
Climb in the back with your head in the clouds
And you're gone

Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Ah




Picture yourself on a train in a station
With plasticine porters with looking glass ties
Suddenly someone is there at the turnstile
The girl with the kaleidoscope eyes

Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Ah
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Ah
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds

Beer
RMAN4443 Offline
#132 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 7,683
bs_kwaj wrote:
Picture yourself in a boat on a river
With tangerine trees and marmalade skies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly
A girl with kaleidoscope eyes

Cellophane flowers of yellow and green
Towering over your head
Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes
And she's gone

Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Ah

Follow her down to a bridge by a fountain
Where rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies
Everyone smiles as you drift past the flowers
That grow so incredibly high

Newspaper taxis appear on the shore
Waiting to take you away
Climb in the back with your head in the clouds
And you're gone

Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Ah




Picture yourself on a train in a station
With plasticine porters with looking glass ties
Suddenly someone is there at the turnstile
The girl with the kaleidoscope eyes

Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Ah
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Ah
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
Lucy in the sky with diamonds

Beer


Been there done that........more than onceBeer
jjanecka Offline
#133 Posted:
Joined: 12-08-2015
Posts: 4,334
I need more beerz
carrite Offline
#134 Posted:
Joined: 03-21-2011
Posts: 43
Here's what I hate:

1-with-a-bullet: the inability to use filters to pull up all boxes, or all 5-packs, or boxes-plus-fivepacks.

2-with-a-bullet: the lack of a "closing today" option.

3. the lack of a list option that includes everything.

4. photos do not match the lots. Five packs should not show graphics of boxes. This was a problem with the old site also.

5. I am still pissed about being cashed out before my designated Thursday, which undoubtedly affected by credit card total for the month. That should NOT have happened.

I am utterly underwhelmed by the new Thompsonesque layout. IT dorks have to work, I suppose, I can see no other rationale for the change. Speaking for myself, I will buy fewer things here from now on.

t
tonygraz Offline
#135 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 20,175
You spelled carrot wrong !
Pudding Mittens Offline
#136 Posted:
Joined: 08-15-2016
Posts: 1,291
carrite wrote:
IT dorks have to work, I suppose, I can see no other rationale for the change.

The rationale is given in my post, above:

1. Mobile devices (smartphones and tablets) are hugely popular and constitute a huge share of browsing.

2. The world's most popular search engine is heavily penalizing sites that have separate desktop and mobile versions.

3. That penalizing causes very large drops in sales and market share, so it must be avoided at all costs.

4. It's very EASY to adapt a simple, feature-light, small mobile device layout for a desktop monitor (you just stretch it and make it way too large)

5. It's very DIFFICULT to adapt a complex, feature-rich, large desktop layout to a tiny smartphone screen and have it be sufficiently readable and usable.

Thus, most companies are switching to a single "responsive" site that is designed for mobile devices, and they more or less just stretch that dumbed-down mobile layout to fit desktop monitors. Some sites make an effort to offer desktop-only enhancements that use the desktop's larger size for something useful, but usually it's pretty weak (nowhere close to the usefulness of a native desktop layout), and many don't even bother at all.

Result: desktop users get screwed with an oversimplified layout, fewer features, giant buttons and text, etc. Their giant monitors and ultra-precise mouse/pointer selection devices no longer get used to anything near their full potential, and they just get huge, stretched smartphone layouts that are lame and wasteful.

Because, we all have to worship at the altar of the holy 5-inch screens and big, fat, imprecise tapping fingers.

It really sucks, but that's why.
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carrite Offline
#137 Posted:
Joined: 03-21-2011
Posts: 43
Pudding Mittens wrote:
The rationale is given in my post, above:

1. Mobile devices (smartphones and tablets) are hugely popular and constitute a huge share of browsing.

2. The world's most popular search engine is heavily penalizing sites that have separate desktop and mobile versions.

3. That penalizing causes very large drops in sales and market share, so it must be avoided at all costs.

4. It's very EASY to adapt a simple, feature-light, small mobile device layout for a desktop monitor (you just stretch it and make it way too large)

5. It's very DIFFICULT to adapt a complex, feature-rich, large desktop layout to a tiny smartphone screen and have it be sufficiently readable and usable.

Thus, most companies are switching to a single "responsive" site that is designed for mobile devices, and they more or less just stretch that dumbed-down mobile layout to fit desktop monitors. Some sites make an effort to offer desktop-only enhancements that use the desktop's larger size for something useful, but usually it's pretty weak (nowhere close to the usefulness of a native desktop layout), and many don't even bother at all.

Result: desktop users get screwed with an oversimplified layout, fewer features, giant buttons and text, etc. Their giant monitors and ultra-precise mouse/pointer selection devices no longer get used to anything near their full potential, and they just get huge, stretched smartphone layouts that are lame and wasteful.

Because, we all have to worship at the altar of the holy 5-inch screens and big, fat, imprecise tapping fingers.

It really sucks, but that's why.
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What you say sounds right.

The hilarity is that the new dumbed down layout does not efficiently work on a laptop. One bug is that if you get ready to rebid on a lot, it shows you you opponent's highest bid in the hole as the "max biid" on your screen. Hmmm, somebody was really gonna spend $166.50 for 10 Oliva V Milanios in the 6x60 shape? Yikes...
Tabloid Snapper Offline
#138 Posted:
Joined: 06-13-2016
Posts: 49
Well Cigar-Bid is up and running on fumes, little too choose from, maybe they Cigar-Bid IT Department are now running test with smaller deals.
24132413 Offline
#139 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2017
Posts: 555

MAY AS WELL!!! It is 8:07am on a Saturday morning and their are NO QUICKIE AUCTIONS posted. At present, Cigar Bid SUCKS again more then it did before.
tonygraz Offline
#140 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 20,175
Saturday is always a low load day for new auctions.
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