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Oregon legislature passes bill banning people with domestic violence convictions from owning guns
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cacman Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 11:38 AM EST
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The Oregon legislature passed a bill Thursday banning anyone with a domestic violence conviction from owning a firearm.

The state has banned those with domestic violence or stalking convictions from owning guns since 2015, but a loophole in the law allowed abusers who aren't living with, married to or have children with the victim to have their guns, according to OregonLive.

The state's House of Representatives passed the bill 37-23 last week - one day after the mass shooting at a Florida high school. The state Senate approved it 16-13 on Thursday.

Advocates for the new bill say that closing the loophole will protect women who could shot by abusive partners they are not married to.

"A person who assaults their boyfriend or girlfriend is no less guilty of domestic violence than someone who assaults their husband or wife," House Majority Leader Jennifer Williamson (D) told OregonLive.

The bill will now go to Gov. Kate Brown's (D) desk, who has said the legislation is a major priority for her. She tweeted that she will sign the bill into law.

The measure comes amid a national conversation about adding gun restrictions in the wake of the Parkland, Fla. high school shooting that left 17 people dead.

President Trump has signaled that he's willing to work on new gun restrictions, and has backed improved background checks, a ban on bump stocks and a minimum age for gun purchases.

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Gene363 Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 12:10 PM EST
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At least it requires "convictions" vs an accusation. Domestic disputes often involve one party falsely accusing the other, however there may need to be some level of proof below a conviction to really protect a plaintiff from their spouse.

It would be nice if there was some reliable way to intervene in domestic disputes. Focusing on guns will just shift these idiots to other methods for harming their 'loved one'. Gee, maybe raising kids in a loving family and teaching them about the sanity of life instead of the pursuit of all things material.
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 12:15 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Gee, maybe raising kids in a loving family and teaching them about the sanity of life instead of the pursuit of all things material.


Are you suggesting we legislate that all families must be "loving"?
Speyside Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 12:18 PM EST
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Your missing the boh Z has went underground by now.
cacman Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 12:23 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Are you suggesting we legislate that all families must be "loving"?

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" . Also known as The Golden Rule.
Or " “Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject for others what you would reject for yourselves.” as taught in the Quran
victor809 Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 12:33 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" . Also known as The Golden Rule.
Or " “Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject for others what you would reject for yourselves.” as taught in the Quran


Not saying it's a bad way to live, just not really a good thing to legislate.
teedubbya Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 12:41 PM EST
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Do unto others as you would have them do unto you sort of promotes homosexuality if you think about it. I want someone to blow me but I don't want to have to put one in my mouth to make it happen.
dstieger Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 12:42 PM EST
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There really is no end to the number of ways that TW can gay up a thread.....nor limits to how fast
teedubbya Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 12:45 PM EST
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LOL
cacman Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 1:15 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Not saying it's a bad way to live, just not really a good thing to legislate.

"Teaching them" was suggested. Not legislation.
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 2:10 PM EST
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Actually it dosent require CONVICTIONS because it includes restraining orders.

And the other problem this doesn't address is the BS Bill from last year with transfers. You can't lend a weapon, so you literally have to have thme confiscated.

The devil is in the details and they aren't eager to point them all out.
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 3:13 PM EST
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Wait.
Does is say whether or not the woman deserved it?
Buckwheat Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 3:16 PM EST
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Can you say, "Court Case"? fog
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 3:48 PM EST
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If they're gonna take your gun you may as well use it one more time... Just sayin.. Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 3:57 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Are you suggesting we legislate that all families must be "loving"?


It'd be great if they just stopped the beatings and killings but I don't think any law can fix that. Relationships, like cars, guns, drugs and alcohol can be a lot of fun are at the same time, dangerous, proceed with caution.

Side note, why do women even get near men? Thank goodness they do, but men as a group are the most dangerous thing for women.
RMAN4443 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018, 4:21 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
It'd be great if they just stopped the beatings and killings but I don't think any law can fix that. Relationships, like cars, guns, drugs and alcohol can be a lot of fun are at the same time, dangerous, proceed with caution.

Side note, why do women even get near men? Thank goodness they do, but men as a group are the most dangerous thing for women.

Frankie Tripod knows why women go near men.......Cause it's There Anxious
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