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banderl Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Mar 20 2018, 7:48 PM EST
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The orange idiot wants that Trump Moscow hotel so bad that he'll say and do anything.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 5:15 AM EST
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Trump lives rent free in your head and there is nothing you can do about it. You feed daily on propaganda, work yourself into an emotional frenzy, and then spew your anger everywhere. You are so insecure in your own beliefs that you then must personally attack anyone here who dares to disagree with you, calling them stupid, or asking if they ate paint chips as a child. It must be such a sad, sad life, being so consumed by hate.

On a side note, if you don't believe that President Obama called and congratulated Putin when he won in 2012, you are too naive and partisan to even attempt a conversation with. In fact Putin called and congratulated Obama on his re-election. Must prove some Obama/Putin conspiracy, right? No, it's just what Heads of States do.


David (dpnewell)
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 6:37 AM EST
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Did he bow too..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 8:05 AM EST
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If you think Trumps relationship with Purim is somehow normal or good I think trump has a two headed apartment he’s living in rent free.
frankj1 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 8:21 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If you think Trumps relationship with Purim is somehow normal or good I think trump has a two headed apartment he’s living in rent free.

Purim is over, Passover is next.
teedubbya Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 8:25 AM EST
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Damn auto correct. I’ll leave it though. This way is butter.
banderl Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 10:07 AM EST
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
Trump lives rent free in your head and there is nothing you can do about it. You feed daily on propaganda, work yourself into an emotional frenzy, and then spew your anger everywhere. You are so insecure in your own beliefs that you then must personally attack anyone here who dares to disagree with you, calling them stupid, or asking if they ate paint chips as a child. It must be such a sad, sad life, being so consumed by hate.

On a side note, if you don't believe that President Obama called and congratulated Putin when he won in 2012, you are too naive and partisan to even attempt a conversation with. In fact Putin called and congratulated Obama on his re-election. Must prove some Obama/Putin conspiracy, right? No, it's just what Heads of States do.


David (dpnewell)



I love my country and hate what the orange a-hole is doing to it.

As far as Obama's call to Poot Poot, could you find a legitimate news source to confirm your statement?

It appears that you get your "news" from alt-right sites, seeing that they are the only "news" sites making this claim.
K9biker Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 10:57 AM EST
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(CNSNews.com) - From the office of President Barack Obama's press secretary on March 9, 2012: "President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election."

That announcement from the Obama White House produced none of the outrage and fury that greeted President Trump's similar announcement on Tuesday:

"I had a call with President Putin, and congratulated him on the victory, his electoral victory," President Trump told reporters at a White House photo-op. "We had a very good call, and I suspect that we'll probably be meeting in the not-too-distant future to discuss the arms race, which is getting out of control," Trump said.

Here's the summary published by the Obama White House of President Obama's 2012 post-election call to Putin:


President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election.


President Obama highlighted achievements in U.S.-Russia relations over the past three years with President Medvedev, including cooperation on Afghanistan, the conclusion and ratification of the START agreement, Russia’s recent invitation to join the World Trade Organization (WTO) and cooperation on Iran.

President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed that the successful reset in relations should be built upon during the coming years. The President said that he looked forward to hosting President-Elect Putin at the G-8 Summit in May at Camp David.

The two leaders outlined areas for future cooperation, including strengthening trade and investment relations arising out of Russia’s pending accession to the WTO. President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue discussions on areas where the United States and Russia have differed, including Syria and missile defense. President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue their efforts to find common ground and remove obstacles to better relations.
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 11:06 AM EST
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Ya but data was different and stuff... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 11:23 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Ya but data was different and stuff... Mellow



I don't think it was different other than the whole attack on our election thing, the recent poisoning, and the position we told our allies we would take. But that's nothing but context.

Bush was wrong looking in to Putin's dreamy eyes and seeing his soul. Obama was wrong as mentioned above (although I think the intent is to say Trump is cool and stuff which is weird because that is not what was said by republicans at the time). Trump was wrong here.

I know the habit is to point at something Obama did wrong and hold that out as an excuse for Trump to do something wrong. It's a very strange thing especially from folks that bagged on Obama bowing while ignoring Bush doing so. If it's wrong with one it's wrong with both. If it's ok with one it's ok with both.


Seems to be a difficult concept for some.
bs_kwaj Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 11:31 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
I love my country and hate what the orange a-hole is doing to it.


So, you're against America first? BigGrin

(America in this instance being the United States of America... except California... which is no longer united and some pinko commie offshoot these days, eh? ;-) )

Got something specific in mind?

Beer
teedubbya Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 11:33 AM EST
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Trumps version of america first reminds me of the liberals version of we are the government, we are here to help you. Nice words though.

It amazes me such a known individual, who is all about himself, has snowed so many people in to thinking he cares about the little guy, cares about them, or cares about america (while his own actions and businesses show the opposite).

I understand the but hillary stuff, and get it. I couldn't vote for her either. But the weird gyrations are something else.
Kawak Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 11:43 AM EST
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K9biker wrote:
(CNSNews.com) - From the office of President Barack Obama's press secretary on March 9, 2012: "President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election."

That announcement from the Obama White House produced none of the outrage and fury that greeted President Trump's similar announcement on Tuesday:

"I had a call with President Putin, and congratulated him on the victory, his electoral victory," President Trump told reporters at a White House photo-op. "We had a very good call, and I suspect that we'll probably be meeting in the not-too-distant future to discuss the arms race, which is getting out of control," Trump said.

Here's the summary published by the Obama White House of President Obama's 2012 post-election call to Putin:


President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election.


President Obama highlighted achievements in U.S.-Russia relations over the past three years with President Medvedev, including cooperation on Afghanistan, the conclusion and ratification of the START agreement, Russia’s recent invitation to join the World Trade Organization (WTO) and cooperation on Iran.

President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed that the successful reset in relations should be built upon during the coming years. The President said that he looked forward to hosting President-Elect Putin at the G-8 Summit in May at Camp David.

The two leaders outlined areas for future cooperation, including strengthening trade and investment relations arising out of Russia’s pending accession to the WTO. President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue discussions on areas where the United States and Russia have differed, including Syria and missile defense. President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue their efforts to find common ground and remove obstacles to better relations.


Tell Vlad to give me time. After the next election I will have a lot more flexibility....

Barry

Apparently the moron Trump hater hasn't figured out the evil search engine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev/obama-tells-russias-medvedev-more-flexibility-after-election-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326
teedubbya Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 1:10 PM EST
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Again... wrong of Obama....

Not right of Trump

Simple concept. Obama took crap for that and should have.
banderl Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 1:42 PM EST
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I can't find much coverage of Obama's call, however Snopes just confirmed this, so I will concede that Obama did make the call.

My bad.
banderl Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 1:43 PM EST
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K9biker wrote:
(CNSNews.com) - From the office of President Barack Obama's press secretary on March 9, 2012: "President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election."

That announcement from the Obama White House produced none of the outrage and fury that greeted President Trump's similar announcement on Tuesday:

"I had a call with President Putin, and congratulated him on the victory, his electoral victory," President Trump told reporters at a White House photo-op. "We had a very good call, and I suspect that we'll probably be meeting in the not-too-distant future to discuss the arms race, which is getting out of control," Trump said.

Here's the summary published by the Obama White House of President Obama's 2012 post-election call to Putin:


President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election.


President Obama highlighted achievements in U.S.-Russia relations over the past three years with President Medvedev, including cooperation on Afghanistan, the conclusion and ratification of the START agreement, Russia’s recent invitation to join the World Trade Organization (WTO) and cooperation on Iran.

President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed that the successful reset in relations should be built upon during the coming years. The President said that he looked forward to hosting President-Elect Putin at the G-8 Summit in May at Camp David.

The two leaders outlined areas for future cooperation, including strengthening trade and investment relations arising out of Russia’s pending accession to the WTO. President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue discussions on areas where the United States and Russia have differed, including Syria and missile defense. President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue their efforts to find common ground and remove obstacles to better relations.



CNS news?
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 1:57 PM EST
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Speaking of hypocrisy...
2012 Trump tweeted the following:
"How long did it take Obama to call Hugo Chavez and congratulate him on his 'reelection'? Who do you think Chavez supports in ours?"


replace Obama with trump, and chavez with pootie poot and you have the exact same issue
banderl Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 3:12 PM EST
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I'd like to see Fox New's take on Obama's call.
HuckFinn Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 3:32 PM EST
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I liked this:
Washington, D.C. ­– U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, released the following statement today on President Trump congratulating Vladimir Putin on his “election” victory:

“An American president does not lead the Free World by congratulating dictators on winning sham elections. And by doing so with Vladimir Putin, President Trump insulted every Russian citizen who was denied the right to vote in a free and fair election to determine their country's future, including the countless Russian patriots who have risked so much to protest and resist Putin's regime."
frankj1 Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 5:55 PM EST
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DO NOT CONGRATULATE

signed,
everyone on your staff
frankj1 Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 5:56 PM EST
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ENFORCE SANCTIONS

signed,
98.2% of Congress
Bruins617 Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 6:26 PM EST
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Obama congratulated Vlad on his election win in 2012 so why is now different ? What because the Dems and the MSM believe that there was collusion when in fact not a single centilla of evidence has been shown that there was any collusion between the President or his campaign with Russia
frankj1 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 6:38 PM EST
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you are so February...
are you also an eastern MAHole?
teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 7:05 PM EST
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I think someone do ant read they just write

And stuff
Burner02 Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 8:50 PM EST
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Not really concerned about Obama's 2012 call or Trump's call. Just part of doing business. I am concerned about the leak of the call, as well as other leaks. Just maybe they can track this one down.

Just when you thought I was letting Obama off of the hook.

Lets not forget Obama's hot mic moment, "more flexibility" to negotiate, referring to Russia and Putin after the election.

And the Obama to Romney, "Russia is not a threat."

I wonder where all the outrage was in 2012.
ZRX1200 Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 8:59 PM EST
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Their lying arsewhole was in office so it didn't matter.

Just like how Russia mettled in 2014 and teedubya didn't say squat here. He was hoping for a free Obammy phone and some free papa Murphys vouchers not stuff.

Mellow
Burner02 Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 9:07 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
I love my country and hate what the orange a-hole is doing to it.

As far as Obama's call to Poot Poot, could you find a legitimate news source to confirm your statement?

It appears that you get your "news" from alt-right sites, seeing that they are the only "news" sites making this claim.


I have been visiting the Political side now for maybe three years and the other community forums since 2011. Don't ever recall you saying anything positive about the U.S.A.

I could be wrong, just don't recall any positives.
tailgater Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 9:08 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
I can't find much coverage of Obama's call, however Snopes just confirmed this, so I will concede that Obama did make the call.

My bad.



Concede?
There is no concession.
There's just you being wrong.
Again.
Or Still.
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 9:09 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Their lying arsewhole was in office so it didn't matter.

Just like how Russia mettled in 2014 and teedubya didn't say squat here. He was hoping for a free Obammy phone and some free papa Murphys vouchers not stuff.

Mellow



Huh. Teedubbya sure loves him some obammy.

I’ve been bitching about putin since windy mcflightsuit and didn’t developed any love for him during obammys time. I can remember the day I figured out who putin was and why we should not trust him. It was on a flight to Cleveland and I was reading a book about him. Can’t rememb the title at the moment and have read a few more since. So there’s that.

Maybe he’s become nicer since then though.

Windy was wrong
Bammy was wrong
Trump is wrong, and something weird is going on.
banderl Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 9:09 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Not really concerned about Obama's 2012 call or Trump's call. Just part of doing business. I am concerned about the leak of the call, as well as other leaks. Just maybe they can track this one down.




Especially since they all had to sign NDAs.

LMAO
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 9:10 PM EST
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Bruins617 wrote:
Obama congratulated Vlad on his election win in 2012 so why is now different ? What because the Dems and the MSM believe that there was collusion when in fact not a single centilla of evidence has been shown that there was any collusion between the President or his campaign with Russia


Welcome.
And don't agree to adjust Franks tripod.
Burner02 Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 9:35 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Especially since they all had to sign NDAs.

LMAO


WTF does that have to do with a leak that can send someones azz to jail. Obviously, you don't understand.


Now back to all of your past positive comments about the U.S.A.

Guess you have gone all patriotic on us now.
frankj1 Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Mar 21 2018, 10:58 PM EST
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this just in:
it is 2018
banderl Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018, 11:00 AM EST
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Burner02 wrote:



Now back to all of your past positive comments about the U.S.A.

Guess you have gone all patriotic on us now.



What does this even mean?
delta1 Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018, 11:27 AM EST
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Deep State told Trump to ignore his intel/national security briefers who told him to NOT CONGRATULATE PUTIN... then leaked his call to Putin...


thems some dastardly dudes...
dstieger Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018, 11:51 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
I'd like to see Fox New's take on Obama's call.


I was curious about that yesterday, too. But, I took a couple minutes to search for coverage and found nothing other than pretty straight up reporting of it....doesn't seem as though anyone there lost their minds over it.


I couldn't really care much less about the call. Diplomacy takes lots of forms and requires a ton of words and actions that are unsupportable out of context.

I have a little trouble with Trump's apparent reluctance to call Putin/Russia out on actual serious crap like Syrian involvement, usurping Ukraine and completely unjustifiable annexation of Crimea. I don't know what that's about.

I do think the leak was abhorrent, if not criminal....someone should be fired immediately.


As to the assassination attempts....I don't know all the details. But, on the surface, I'm not sure how troubled I am. Probably indelicate do try it on British soil, but the target(s) were Russian traitors, weren't they? A nice, quiet accidental death wouldn't transmit their 'message' to other potential traitors. Maybe there's a lot more to the story, but spies that get caught have a short life-span, and that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
banderl Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018, 12:41 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I was curious about that yesterday, too. But, I took a couple minutes to search for coverage and found nothing other than pretty straight up reporting of it....doesn't seem as though anyone there lost their minds over it.


I couldn't really care much less about the call. Diplomacy takes lots of forms and requires a ton of words and actions that are unsupportable out of context.

I have a little trouble with Trump's apparent reluctance to call Putin/Russia out on actual serious crap like Syrian involvement, usurping Ukraine and completely unjustifiable annexation of Crimea. I don't know what that's about.

I do think the leak was abhorrent, if not criminal....someone should be fired immediately.


As to the assassination attempts....I don't know all the details. But, on the surface, I'm not sure how troubled I am. Probably indelicate do try it on British soil, but the target(s) were Russian traitors, weren't they? A nice, quiet accidental death wouldn't transmit their 'message' to other potential traitors. Maybe there's a lot more to the story, but spies that get caught have a short life-span, and that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.



Found Drudge and a few others that ripped him for it.
Had to go back quite a few Google pages to find that.
dstieger Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018, 12:49 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Found Drudge and a few others that ripped him for it.
Had to go back quite a few Google pages to find that.



Right....so did Rush. But I was specifically looking for Fox News stuff....may have been some....probably a Hannity bit or something, but nothing to indicate it was treated anything like the MSM spouted off this weekend
DrMaddVibe Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018, 3:19 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Did he bow too..?? Huh



I thought the same thing too!

It's not like he promised he'd have more "wiggle room to get something done" after he's elected.


It's a world leader calling another world leader...that he will have to work with on a host of issues.

SMH
HuckFinn Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018, 4:38 PM EST
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Former CIA Director John Brennan says it is possible the Russians 'have something' on the president, and he also believes the country's future is in jeopardy as Trump 'continues his antics.'

Would explain Trump's laissez-faire attitude towards Russia
DrMaddVibe Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Mar 22 2018, 4:42 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Former CIA Director John Brennan says it is possible the Russians 'have something' on the president, and he also believes the country's future is in jeopardy as Trump 'continues his antics.'

Would explain Trump's laissez-faire attitude towards Russia



If a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass when it hopped!
mkurt Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Mar 24 2018, 6:44 PM EST
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MNOGAYA LETA, VLADIMIR VLADIMIROVICH!

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