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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 4:03 PM EST
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Gotta love the new vote Democrat scare tactics...


The deputy chairman of the Democratic National Committee said "women are dying" because members of his party are "losing elections."

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) said at a "progressive change" training conference in Washington that Democrats must reclaim their former electoral prowess.

"Women are dying because we are losing elections," the Minneapolis Democrat said. "We don't have the right to lose a damn election. We have to win."

Ellison, 54, lamented his loss to Tom Perez in the race for the DNC chairmanship, with the sentiment receiving boos from the left-wing crowd, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

"Did you know that in Missouri and Texas... maternal mortality has risen?" Ellison said in prefacing his "women are dying" remark.

New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon, a progressive Democrat who played Miranda in "Sex and the City," also addressed the event.

Nixon is seeking a primary bid against two-term New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D), recently making news when she called the liberal former HUD secretary a "wannabe Republican."

Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) were also featured speakers at the event.

Film at 11... Laugh
frankj1 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 4:48 PM EST
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leftists booed him?
gummy jones Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 5:04 PM EST
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Waachoo talkin bout willis
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 5:13 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
Waachoo talkin bout willis


must have not understood this:

Ellison, 54, lamented his loss to Tom Perez in the race for the DNC chairmanship, with the sentiment receiving boos from the left-wing crowd, according to the Washington Free Beacon

oh well.
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 5:15 PM EST
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Was prolly supposed to be booze.. Mellow
bgz Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 5:23 PM EST
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I'll tell me wife we can't move to Texas because women die there more often.
victor809 Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 5:24 PM EST
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Not much different from the Kentucky guy who claimed the teachers strike caused kids to be raped...

At least this one was based on numbers (maternal mortality rate increased)... it sounds like they are claiming that the maternal mortality rate would not have increased if democrats had been elected.... don't know if that's true myself... perhaps they can expound on that by pointing to specific policies...
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 5:29 PM EST
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I think they're saying if you love your wife and mother you better vote for a Democrat.. otherwise they'll die... Mellow
rfenst Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 5:51 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I think they're saying if you love your wife and mother you better vote for a Democrat.. otherwise they'll die... Mellow


Two for the price of one?
gummy jones Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 5:56 PM EST
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If a woman votes independent or gop is it suicide?
DrafterX Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 6:28 PM EST
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That's what Hillary said.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 6:44 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Two for the price of one?

you're actually considering this, aren't you?

such a deal.

HA!
SteveS Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 7:32 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Gotta love the new vote Democrat scare tactics...
The deputy chairman of the Democratic National Committee said "women are dying" because members of his party are "losing elections."
"Women are dying because we are losing elections," the Minneapolis Democrat said. "We don't have the right to lose a damn election. We have to win."


what a crock of sh*t
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Apr 15 2018, 7:33 PM EST
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He was prolly just kiddin.. Mellow
tailgater Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2018, 8:24 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
If a woman votes independent or gop is it suicide?


We may never know.
MACS Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2018, 5:46 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Two for the price of one?


Okay, that was funny!
delta1 Online
#17 Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2018, 6:38 PM EST
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cons have a blind spot for poor women...they keep wanting to shut down Planned Parenthood because it is pro-choice...

but it also provides no and low-cost medical services to poor women, ostensibly saving some lives in the process...
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2018, 6:56 PM EST
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That's what they want you to think.. Not talking
MACS Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2018, 8:29 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
cons have a blind spot for poor women...they keep wanting to shut down Planned Parenthood because it is pro-choice...

but it also provides no and low-cost medical services to poor women, ostensibly saving some lives in the process...


My brother... the constitution guarantees the pursuit of happiness. Pursuit requires one to get off one's dead ass and actually pursue said happiness. Nobody owes you a damn thing. Nothing is free, and we should all WORK towards our own fulfillment, not depend on anyone (least of all the damn government) for anything.
banderl Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2018, 9:20 PM EST
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While the Declaration of Independence recognizes the unalienable rights of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” and the Constitution explicitly protects life and liberty, happiness goes unmentioned in the highest law of the land.[1] The Declaration has no standing in the legal system of the United States; nevertheless, the pursuit of happiness has an important role in American legal history, and is becoming increasingly significant internationally. Protections of the pursuit of happiness have been written into various state and national constitutions, and have even been cited in some of the United States’ Supreme Court’s landmark decisions on marriage. The emergence of legal protection for considerations of happiness, despite its omission in the supreme law of the land, demonstrates this right’s power in the American consciousness.

http://blogs.cuit.columbia.edu/culr/2016/02/16/constitutional-considerations-of-happiness/
MACS Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Apr 16 2018, 10:44 PM EST
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Sorry Bandy... you didn't address my point. We're all free to pursue happiness. Where in the constitution, or bill of rights, or preamble does it say the government should provide your happiness? Or your meals? Or housing? Or anything?

Just wondering.
victor809 Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 12:47 AM EST
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Ummm... MACS.... what does owing or nothing being free have to do with the statement?

If some women died because they were not provided with cheap medical services.... their unwillingness to work harder to afford better medical care doesn't change the fact that they died... it just means that you believe they deserved to die.
jjanecka Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 9:11 AM EST
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No Vic, they should have left their kitchens and TV sets and gotten some actual work done.
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 11:34 AM EST
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Hehe...

I'm fine with that opinion.

People like to couch their choices or opinions in the least offensive way possible... I think it makes them feel better about themselves. So when a conversation is about "Some people have died because we didnt do x" the response of "our government only guarantees that we have the ability to pursue happiness... meals ... etc" is literally saying "I am 100% fine if someone dies because they can't afford a specific procedure, or food, or shelter"

(Note... I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment. I just find it funny that macs decided to go on a nice sounding "pursuit of blah blah blah" speech rather than just saying "so what if they die?".... I guess it makes him feel better about himself)
delta1 Online
#25 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 3:20 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
My brother... the constitution guarantees the pursuit of happiness. Pursuit requires one to get off one's dead ass and actually pursue said happiness. Nobody owes you a damn thing. Nothing is free, and we should all WORK towards our own fulfillment, not depend on anyone (least of all the damn government) for anything.



That is perfectly stated and an honest perspective from the cons/right. It also contradicts the con outrage over the Dem candidate's statement that caused so much outrage. This is a core belief, and to get all lathered up because some Dem is trying to win an election by pointing out some differences between core principles of the two parties is an attempt to trick voters into thinking something else...

Oh yeah... "the Middle Class Tax Cut of 2017"...another con deception...
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 6:31 PM EST
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Tailored suits, chauffeured cars
Fine hotels and big cigars
Up for grabs, up for a price
Where the red hot girls keep on dancing through the night
The claim is on you
The sights are on me
So what do you do
That's guaranteed
Hey little girl, you want it all
The furs, the diamonds, the painting on the wall...

Beer
qmech Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 11:30 PM EST
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Hi
There is much confusion spread by both parties over the tax cuts that to say 2017 middle class tax cuts are a con deception can also serve to deceive...

"To be sure, calling this Bill a “middle-class tax cut” doesn’t speak to who gets the biggest benefits of this legislation (very high earners and corporations). However, the vast majority of the working middle class will get a lower tax bill in 2018"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/markavallone/2017/12/29/how-the-tax-cut-and-jobs-act-can-help-the-middle-class-retire/amp/

Q
delta1 Online
#28 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 12:37 PM EST
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and what happens in a few years? One disappears while the other is fixed...classic "throw a bone" to distract from the real action...

If one honestly measures the net value of the middle class tax cut, compared to what the rest of the package is worth to corporations and the wealthy class, it is like Jack and Jill's Hill next to Mt. McKinley.
frankj1 Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 1:03 PM EST
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a wash for me.
a few shekels extra take home per week, gonna pay about the same as that above last year's balance due...
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