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dstieger Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 10:35 AM EST
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I'm a long ways from outraged, but I do think its rather sad.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/02/boy-scouts-scouts-bsa-girls-joining-cub-scouts/572036002/

One of those things in largely partisan debates that I just cannot get my head around is how we are no longer allowed to acknowledge that boys and girls are different....never mind the cloudy world of 'gender identity', what about chromosomes and science and stuff? Even having considered some of what Victor has written, I'm pretty perplexed
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 10:45 AM EST
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Xer conversing with a Millennial.

Xer: "I heard you just had a baby."

Millennial: "Yes I did."

Xer: "Boy or a Girl?"

Millennial: "It's sex is female, but we won't know it's gender for several years."


David (dpnewell)
Cathcam13 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 11:20 AM EST
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Hmm, such a strange subject......
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 11:49 AM EST
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Apparently there will no longer be Policemen or Firemen in New York either... Idiots.. Not talking
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 12:03 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I'm a long ways from outraged, but I do think its rather sad.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/02/boy-scouts-scouts-bsa-girls-joining-cub-scouts/572036002/

One of those things in largely partisan debates that I just cannot get my head around is how we are no longer allowed to acknowledge that boys and girls are different....never mind the cloudy world of 'gender identity', what about chromosomes and science and stuff? Even having considered some of what Victor has written, I'm pretty perplexed



The BSA has been doing this already for decades with the "Explorer" program (Sea Scouts, Air Scouts, Medical, Fire etc...).

I don't see a big deal so long as there is proper chaperoning.
dstieger Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 12:23 PM EST
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I'm not worried about the supervision....I just think its sad that it is no longer ok to have an organization or program that is specifically for 'boys' or for 'girls'.
Buckwheat Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 12:26 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
The BSA has been doing this already for decades with the "Explorer" program (Sea Scouts, Air Scouts, Medical, Fire etc...).

I don't see a big deal so long as there is proper chaperoning.



Agreed. Venture Scouts actually https://www.scouting.org/programs/venturing/. I was an adult scout leader for several years and girls have been participating in the Boy Scouts for some time. When I went to the High Adventure Base Camp in 2014 with my son I was surprised by the number of girls there. They obviously had separate baths, etc... fog
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 12:28 PM EST
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Oh, ok. I misunderstood what you were getting at, Dave.

I see your point. Not sure how I feel, as this was a voluntary management decision, not a court order. I'm thinking follow the money. BSA might be a non-profit, but people who work there still get paid. It still costs to operate. More membership = more revenue.
tailgater Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, May 2 2018, 12:28 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I'm not worried about the supervision....I just think its sad that it is no longer ok to have an organization or program that is specifically for 'boys' or for 'girls'.



It's beyond sad.
It's pathetic.
SteveS Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 4:56 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
It's beyond sad.
It's pathetic.


but, it is politically correct
Krazeehorse Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 6:06 AM EST
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I wish the people that support this stuff would quit picking away with little bites. Let's just go with total gender neutrality. Make everything unisex, bathrooms, athletics, clothing....everything. That's what they want. Just nut up and come out and say it. You parents that want your little girls to be feminine and lady like, shame on you.
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 7:53 AM EST
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Why did Bloody cross the road..?? Huh
tamapatom Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 10:19 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Why did Bloody cross the road..?? Huh

Because there was no Boy Scout there to help him across?
RMAN4443 Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 10:39 AM EST
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Does this mean that Boy Scout pregnancies will be spiking?
Buckwheat Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 11:21 AM EST
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
Xer conversing with a Millennial.

Xer: "I heard you just had a baby."

Millennial: "Yes I did."

Xer: "Boy or a Girl?"

Millennial: "It's sex is female, but we won't know it's gender for several years."


David (dpnewell)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcHdF1eHhgc

Wait till the end for one of the best lines in this bit. fog
Ewok126 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 11:50 AM EST
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^^^ Bwahahaha. I see that they have upgraded the expensive machine. When my kid was born it went "Bloop" now it goes "Bing" way better for sure.

That reminds me. I got to get the Beta-Max copy of my daughters birth.
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 11:52 AM EST
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I'M OUTRAGED!!!
Speyside Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 12:45 PM EST
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I see this as another sign of what we have become. It saddens me. A high school near me changed the picture of its mascot so it looks androgynous. It previously looked male. Another sad sign of what we have become.
dstieger Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 12:49 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
I see this as another sign of what we have become. It saddens me. A high school near me changed the picture of its mascot so it looks androgynous. It previously looked male. Another sad sign of what we have become.


Lemme guess....they are the....Pats?
Speyside Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 12:51 PM EST
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Yes.
dstieger Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 1:08 PM EST
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No way....I'd say not so much sensitivity as sense of humor....LOL

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/its-pat/n10133
Buckwheat Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 1:31 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Lemme guess....they are the....Pats?

Applause
RMAN4443 Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 5:06 PM EST
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^^^^^+1
RMAN4443 Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, May 4 2018, 7:47 PM EST
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Krazeehorse wrote:
I wish the people that support this stuff would quit picking away with little bites. Let's just go with total gender neutrality. Make everything unisex, bathrooms, athletics, clothing....everything. That's what they want. Just nut up and come out and say it. You parents that want your little girls to be feminine and lady like, shame on you.

Today I peed in a ladie's room, because I just felt to pretty to use a men's room......Think
tailgater Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, May 5 2018, 8:16 AM EST
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SteveS wrote:
but, it is politically correct


You saying I ain't?
Herfing
tailgater Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, May 5 2018, 8:18 AM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Today I peed in a ladie's room, because I just felt to pretty to use a men's room......Think


That.
And the fact that you squat to pee.
RMAN4443 Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, May 5 2018, 10:26 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
That.
And the fact that you squat to pee.



Not always
gummy jones Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, May 6 2018, 3:57 AM EST
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meh

There are other options

Reap what you sow and let time be the judge. If they don't even exist in 10 years I won't miss em.

I'll bet my mom has badges and scarf and stuff somewhere.
jjanecka Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, May 6 2018, 11:40 PM EST
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My buddies and I have been going back and forth on this for the past week. One is upset because they're ruining the "boys club" the other, who's an Eagle Scout is all for it and I've been playing up both sides.

Honestly, Scouts BSA offers less socializes and politicized crap than Girl Scouts so hopefully Scouts BSA will run girl scouts out of business because they're the ones advocating all this gender neutrality crap to begin with and they're enraged because it destabilizes their base to produce future feminists.

This isn't a unisex political bid, moreso, Scouts BSA is just a better organization and it's focused on kids having fun, instead of being political.

They fully intend to keep girls/boys in separate groups.
Krazeehorse Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, May 16 2018, 7:34 PM EST
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Mike Rowe on the topic. A little long but I think a good read.
https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe/posts/1916686088341525
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, May 16 2018, 9:31 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Does this mean that Boy Scout pregnancies will be spiking?

late to the party...another in a series of funnies by you.
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