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Against all Odds - Tour of Rocky Patel cigar passion
btpcm Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2018
Posts: 74
I thought this would be just another cigar video.
Rocky Patel takes you on a tour of the entire process from seedlings to wrapper and everything in between.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npoawQ9cej0

Wrapper, binder and filler leaves can all come from the same plant.
A particular blend might use a wrapper from one region, binder from another region and filler from a third region.

36 minutes you won't regret spending. Dated 2009 (might be in another thread somewhere on CB)
bgz Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Meh, rather troll noobs online for wasting 36 minutes of their life >:)
btpcm Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2018
Posts: 74
The video got a lot more comments on its YouTube page than it did here!

Wide range of discussion

Nicholas A. Skinas
2 years ago
The very best video on cigar production. From seed to shop, you get to see and learn the whole process in making a premium hand made cigar. This video, hosted by, none other than Rocky Patel himself. Very instructional, and for anyone who enjoys the pleasure of smoking a premium hand made cigar, this video is a must. And remember, "When you say no to Cigars, you say no to Life".

Tommy B.
3 months ago
This is probably one of the best and most informative videos I’ve seen about what goes into making a Premium cigar. Thanks a lot.

Mic
1 year ago
By far the best video out there on cigar production from seed to box and beyond, imo. Absolutely fascinating.

nick garner
11 months ago
Mic Tod™ check out the Padron video. I think it's even better!

StrawmanII
3 years ago
He really comes off as a arrogant attorney which I guess that's what he is so it makes sense. It's really obvious that he's trying to make a concerted effort to try and act humble and likable throughout this video and it just comes off as fake! It's like he saw all these videos that other cigar makers have made and thought "Oh boy, I gotta have a video too!" But couldn't really find anyone who wanted to make one for him or wanted to work with him so he just decided to take his arrogant ass and a video camera and make one himself. Fu*k him!!!

Saddendude
3 years ago
Bragging about pushing the envelope and aging things for as high as 18 months. LOL. Buddy Padrons regularly age 1964's for 4 years , 1926's for 5 years and even longer when you get into the Family Reserve.

Talking about preparing the wrappers for rolling and wetting them down... Because we are all stupid and cant clearly see that they are dyeing the wrappers. Not a bad thing if done properly and naturally. But let's call it what it is shall we.

That's also an awfull obsession with color. Color doesn't do **** for flavor , just makes them look pretty. Light to dark , left to right. That's how everyone else boxes , even the Cubans.

Draw testing every single cigar , what a waste of time , and I am sure your rollers appreciate that you think so little of them. Regular draw testing is important for QC of course , but draw testing ever single funk!ng cigar is a serious waste of time. These are people that roll hundreds of cigars daily , even testing 1/4 of what they roll is a waste of time. Do maybe 1 cigar out of every 50 , if it fails investigate further. Except for new/training staff , they would obviously need more regulation to be sure they fall within acceptable parameters

Also you don't trust your boxers and sorters enough to box a bundle of cigars , I mean c'mon , a "supervisor" has to remove them and re box them just to be sure. What a joke , nobody else does that ****.

I don't mind some of his blends , but the guy seems like a douche with small d!ck syndrome.
delta1 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,778
the last two comments are reflective of the majority of opinions of CBid members who post in the forum...not a lot of love for Rocky Patel...not sure why the silence, though...
KingoftheCove Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 7,631
Never met him.
But, a few botl here, and a few from little sister's forum, whose opinion I trust, all come to the same conclusion.
Arrogant douche nozzle.
I think RP and Hansotia are competing to see who can crank out more over priced, barely smokeable yard gars.
btpcm Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2018
Posts: 74
I've only tried a few RPs over the years and haven't been that impressed, but I did notice some rather copious buys when car salesmen sent their wives in to a certain shop to pick up a box or two for the showroom, and the boxes had like 100 cigars each in them. I asked the clerk about those and he told me the car salesmen like to have a cigar to thank a customer for buying a car!

Maybe it's all about money. Just because a man is buying a car doesn't mean he knows what a good cigar is or even if he likes cigars at all. But the gift of a cigar is a gesture of opulence, perhaps?

When I saw the OP video I was impressed with the way the video is put together, really gives a wide-ranged view of their operation from seedlings to nursery to field, then harvest, stages of curing, care, sorting, rolling, pressing, draw testing, wrapping, grading, and boxing. I thought the first time that he might be giving away trade secrets, but then I noticed that some of his information is self-contradictory so perhaps it's more of a snow-job for the uninitiated.

A few comments criticized the draw testing operation saying it's a wast of time, especially to test EVERY SINGLE CIGAR, which must pass the test in order to get its wrapper put on. They say these experienced rollers don't mess up very often and testing the draw means their skill level is not trusted, so the roller personnel probably feel like they're not appreciated. Sounds like a long chain of logic and maybe it's all speculation, or, perhaps it comes from knowing some of the workers!

But the overall effect the video has made appears to have been very good. You can see by the lighting and photography that he trusted someone who knows how to use a camera well. You don't get results like that by accident. I read through some of the Comments and found many posts from cigar smokers who had never tried RP but after seeing the video they can't wait for their first one. So the video goes a long way to sell the product, for it makes the viewer consider the dedication and love that goes into the long-term commitment it takes to have a going concern in cigar making.

There is an aspect of this being a political statement in a climate of looming suppression when tobacco products are under fire from liberals. Children are taught in school that TOBACCO is EVIL and many civil ordinances have gone into effect to make smoking ANYTHING (except marijuana of course) illegal in public. Patel takes a moment at the end, sitting in the empty factory room, to press home the point that many people rely on this industry for employment.

There must be something about the owner, Rocky Patel, that has rubbed CB members the wrong way, I figure. It's not a judgment of the people who work for him but more likely the man himself. And perhaps his cigars!
Whistlebritches Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 22,128
The Edge used to be a good cigar,as was the Decade but RP even managed to **** that up.
corey sellers Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 08-21-2011
Posts: 10,360
Never mind y'all have said it already
dstieger Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
Despite numerous bad opinions of RP and his cigars, I do feel it's important to relate that Mr. Patel, along with a local shpo owner, took a large group (maybe a dozen) veterans from a local American Legion on an all-expenses-paid trip to RP factory in DR. All reports from the vets were hugely positive and grateful.
KingoftheCove Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 7,631
dstieger wrote:
Despite numerous bad opinions of RP and his cigars, I do feel it's important to relate that Mr. Patel, along with a local shpo owner, took a large group (maybe a dozen) veterans from a local American Legion on an all-expenses-paid trip to RP factory in DR. All reports from the vets were hugely positive and grateful.

Applause
There's hope then?
Was that recently?
If so, maybe Rocky was made aware of his PR issues with a sizeable percentage of botl, and he's out to change his image..............smart play.
He's no dummy that's for sure.

I do often wonder what Rocky and Hansotia smoke?
A Decade and maybe a Grand Reserve???
Um........no........prolly some nicely aged CC.
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