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Cohen secretly taped Trump.
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Speyside Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2018, 4:52 PM EST
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What a sleazebag move. I would question the truth of anything he has said or will say to the district at attorneys.
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#2 Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2018, 5:55 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
What a sleazebag move. I would question the truth of anything he has said or will say to the district at attorneys.


He blew the rest of his career. Even Trump is trashing him now. Doesn't look like a pardon will be in his favor now. They must really have some serious $hit on him to violate attorney/client privilege like that.
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#3 Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2018, 6:12 PM EST
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Isn't taping conversations a pretty common practice among lawyers and businessmen?

Seriously, who would take the fall, up to 30 years in prison, for somebody else?

And especially Trump!?

Cohen is a sleazeball , but not for flipping on the Don.
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#4 Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2018, 7:41 PM EST
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Pretty sure that violates the legal cannon of ethics.
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#5 Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2018, 7:53 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Pretty sure that violates the legal cannon of ethics.

There are exceptions to what privilege will protect. Communications made with the intent of committing or concealing a crime or fraud are exempted.
Cohen is entitled to disclose conversations with Trump that are directly related to charges he might face.

"The ethics rules allow lawyers to disclose client confidences from a representation if the lawyer is charged with wrongdoing arising out of the representation," said New York University law professor Stephen Gillers. "You can't trade on client information unless you're charged with wrongdoing because of the representation of that client."

Excerpts from

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/24/cohen-trump-attorney-legal-minefield-546336
Speyside Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2018, 8:54 PM EST
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I was thinking more in terms of an unknown, unauthorized recording Huck.
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#7 Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2018, 9:49 PM EST
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Cohen should have hired Rosemary Woods.

I always get a kick out of revisionist fawning over Nixon.
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#8 Posted: Sun, Jul 22 2018, 5:35 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Pretty sure that violates the legal cannon of ethics.


No.

It is law on a state by state basis unrelated to lawyers. For example, it is illegal in Florida for one person to tape a conversation without the other person's knowledge...
Speyside Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jul 22 2018, 8:41 AM EST
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Thank you Robert.
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#10 Posted: Sun, Jul 22 2018, 5:49 PM EST
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New York is a "one party consent" state, where only one party to the conversation has to consent to make the recording legal. Since Cohen was a party to the conversation, the tape is legal even if Trump didn't know he was being recorded and would not have consented. Some states require both/all parties to consent.

Some states have laws specifically for recording telephone conversations and slightly different ones for taping in-person conversations. New York recently, 2017, passed a law requiring that two parties must consent before recording phone conversations.
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#11 Posted: Sun, Jul 22 2018, 5:55 PM EST
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Good info Al thanks.
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