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statelandman Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 12:00 PM EST
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Pardon me if this has been asked before, but does C-bid sell to brick & mortar shops and other retail dealers?
I just can't believe the number of cigars that some of these same guys are bidding on, week in and week out.
Nobody can have ODO that bad!
stogiepa Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 12:08 PM EST
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Very Interesting.........................
Question.................................
Let us wait for an answer................
I may know part of it but we shall see...



stogiepa
TrishS@CigarBid Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 12:15 PM EST
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Since each person bidding creates and maintains their own profile, we don't actually keep track of who is purchasing and why. Of course there are a few retailers - why wouldn't they purchase cigars that are often being sold less than wholesale? But you'd also be very surprised at the number of individuals who buy for their own personal use. I think they must be smoking two or three at a time...
ryantp Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 12:19 PM EST
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My theory is that some people are reselling them online.
stogiepa Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 12:57 PM EST
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Hey Ryan~
What is the name of your web site, where we can purchase from you? LMAO.....


Trish~

Has Ryan been bidding a lot lately?




Happy Puffing Ryan


stogiepa
stogiepa Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 1:00 PM EST
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Hey Ryan~
What is the name of your web site, where we can purchase from you? LMAO.....


Trish~

Has Ryan been bidding a lot lately?




Happy Puffing Ryan


stogiepa
dave97402 Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 1:01 PM EST
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Quote "Nobody can have ODO that bad! "

Oh yes I can


stogiepa Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 1:02 PM EST
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Honest.....I only hit the post button..once..
Get message query expired...what happens it post twice!

Oh well.......
Seth Gekko Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 1:23 PM EST
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Dave, he said ODO. . . . not ODOR . . . . .
dave97402 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 1:48 PM EST
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OH.......never mind


KNOF Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 2:19 PM EST
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I thought something smelled funny up north? Now I know who and why, heheheeeeee.

My two cents on this topic is it is obvious some individuals must be resaling the cigars, however. I beleive some states prohibit this, but then if they buy a few boxes here and the rest through their retailer, how are they going to get caught? I also beleive that if the represntative from a cigar company finds out shop owners are buying from CBid and not the sales rep, something might hit the fan.
Steve*R Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 3:09 PM EST
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There are any number of businesses that are licensed for tobacco sales, but don't sell tobacco as a primary item. Consequently, they purchase from local jobbers/distributors. Most cocktail lounges that are cigar friendly don't do enough volume in any cigar to have a direct account with a manufacturer. Liquor stores may be in a similar situation, primarily selling assorted singles. Because of tax accountability, they are required to buy in a manner that accounts for taxes paid. In reality, there may be the rare maverick sole proprietor who sneaks a few sticks into his liquor store counter display without paying the 37.5% tobacco tax(MN). He may do this because he can buy some cigars, at retail, on-line that are significantly cheaper than his wholesale price with tax added.

Now, if he gets caught, it's not such a good deal.
jetblasted Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 3:21 PM EST
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Steve*R is right ... I asked my local that same question and he told me that all it would take is a suprise inspection from the tax man to shut him down ...
stogiepa Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 3:29 PM EST
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Oh Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees I was correct...i had thought the mighty "tax" issue came into play some where.

Thanks SteveR


stogie
CWFoster Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 3:31 PM EST
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I just can't believe the number of cigars that some of these same guys are bidding on, week in and week out.
Nobody can have ODO that bad! - Statelandman
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I once had a single display humi, and came back from my 2003 wartime cruise with it stuffed with ISOMs. My ship decommed and when I transferred to my new ship I met a guy called Butch (not exactly his correct name) who sometimes posts on here as GunnerLHD. He emailed me several links to cigar sites of which CI and Cbid were two. They were the only ones I ever made any use of. That was in December of 2003. In March of 2005, I have 5 90 qt sweaterdors, a contico dry ammo can, (three more of those on the way!) an Indulgence table humi, two smiley humis, and two regular ammo cans, and everythings FULL! I'm active duty US Navy, and don't have time to sell much of anything! LOL, I guess some of us DO have ODO that bad!
stogiepa Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 6:01 PM EST
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ODO ?????
BikerBob1961 Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 7:43 PM EST
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ODO (Constiable)
Isn't that the chief securty officer on
Deep Space Nine?
BBJ Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2005, 9:54 PM EST
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I HAd ODO,11 Humidors And 50 Qt Coolerdor Full.
I Am Under Comtrol Most Of The Time But Do Relaps.I Have Not Fallen Off The Humdor In A While.LOL
Seth Gekko Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Mar 4 2005, 1:58 AM EST
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Stogiepa . . . . OrderDisOrder . . . .
stogiepa Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Mar 4 2005, 3:40 AM EST
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Thank You.......
mrtelcom Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Mar 4 2005, 3:54 AM EST
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There is no question about this. You can go in some brick and mortars and it looks like a CI catalog.
Steve*R Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Mar 4 2005, 8:40 AM EST
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Of course, you also have to consider all the guys who sell cigars on Yahoo auctions. They're far too small to even buy from local distributors, so they buy here and at other vendors, when they have slash and burn closeouts.
ryantp Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Mar 4 2005, 8:41 AM EST
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Steve*R - that's exactly what I was referring to.
cgbgjr Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Mar 4 2005, 10:10 AM EST
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There is a guy in this area who sells cigars to golf club pro shops who in turn sell singles to the golfers. He buys his smokes from the same retailers I do--I have seen the return addresses on a couple of packages that were unopened.

He has no storefront so I guess the only way he could have a problem is if the tax folks spent a lot of time on golf courses. :-)

I haven't met the person but I wouldn't be surprised if he was unaware of the potential pitfalls of his operation.
qmech Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Aug 5 2018, 1:29 PM EST
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HiHerfing
There was a shop in MA that had the same 5 packs and other products(Even found a smiley facešŸ˜) sold exclusively through CI (& P&C or Cigars). Now it is possible he looked out for sales and the like from the mother-ship and/or her siblings (P&C or Cigars). However I would put money that his hunting ground. was right here on cbid. There are also a number of eBay folks who resell items.
tonygraz Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Aug 5 2018, 6:24 PM EST
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Wow- revived after 3 years ! Internet cigars at shop prices - how could you go wrong ? I wonder if they paid Mass tax on them.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Aug 5 2018, 7:29 PM EST
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Look again, Tony. Revived after 13 years, not 3.

David
tonygraz Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Aug 5 2018, 11:15 PM EST
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Oops, keying mishap.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Aug 5 2018, 11:36 PM EST
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TrishS@CigarBid wrote:
Since each person bidding creates and maintains their own profile, we don't actually keep track of who is purchasing and why.

You probably ought to be. It's valuable business intelligence/metrics and unless your database is designed really badly, it should be pretty easy to do. The aggregation code, DB tables, necessary SQL queries and a nice web-based interface (available internally only, not to customers!) for generating reports, running queries, etc. is all pretty simple. I know because I design and code that kind of stuff all the time.

Quote:
you'd also be very surprised at the number of individuals who buy for their own personal use. I think they must be smoking two or three at a time...

A few possibilities:

1. They enjoy having a very large collection.

2. They're buying flavorful cigars very heavily now at cheap prices to avoid having to pay huge highly-taxed prices for tightly-regulated, bland, flavorless, FDA-approved blends 5 or 10 or more years from now.

3. They're buying cigars very heavily now to beat inflation in prices (although that involves "opportunity cost", what you could've otherwise done with the money).

4. They enjoy experimenting with super-long-term aging.

Or, any combination of these 4 reasons.
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Boutique charm Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Oct 8 2020, 4:35 AM EST
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To me The Tell-Tale sign that dealers are stocking up is not in the cigars it's in the merchandise. You cannot make an argument that someone is using 20 travel humidors or 20 cigar cutters.
tonygraz Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Oct 8 2020, 5:55 AM EST
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Or it could be people buying at CBID and reselling the stuff on EBAY.
bgz Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Oct 8 2020, 9:44 AM EST
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Yep, that's my thought. There's money to made if you don't mind the monotony, sounds boring af to me though.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Oct 8 2020, 9:51 AM EST
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When I worked at a smoke shop I routinely filled customer requests for non tobacco merchandise through cbid...
IMrokkenAmullet Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Oct 11 2020, 7:58 PM EST
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This.

I bid on ā€œcigar juiceā€ just the other night. 35 lots total. One buyer quadrupled the price for me when they bought 20 lots. Who uses that many 16 oz containers of humidifier solution?

A dealer or someone reselling them, thatā€™s who.

Irritating...
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Oct 11 2020, 10:20 PM EST
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IMrokkenAmullet wrote:
This.

I bid on ā€œcigar juiceā€ just the other night. 35 lots total. One buyer quadrupled the price for me when they bought 20 lots. Who uses that many 16 oz containers of humidifier solution?

A dealer or someone reselling them, thatā€™s who.

Irritating...

it's good wif vodka...
agrodge Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Oct 14 2020, 7:36 PM EST
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I just bid on ten lots of ten cigars each. And I guarantee Iā€™ll smoke every single one of them if I win the bid. Some of us just enjoy the great deals we can get in here.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Oct 14 2020, 7:55 PM EST
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