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If Trump Used the "N" Word...
delta1 Offline
#1 Posted:
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would any of his supporters jump off the bandwagon?

WH spokeperson said "I can't guarantee that he never used that word..."
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
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Have you ever used that word..?? Huh
delta1 Offline
#3 Posted:
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yes, many times...a couple of times to someone's face when we were fighting...but not since the word has become an offensive and racially charged weapon...certainly not since it became a key symbol in the OJ acquittal...


and I never thought I should be POTUS...so if we give Trump a mulligan until the early 90's/OJ trial, if he uttered that word since then, you still OK with him?
RMAN4443 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
would any of his supporters jump off the bandwagon?

WH spokeperson said "I can't guarantee that he never used that word..."

Was he singing one of his favorite rap songz????Anxious
victor809 Offline
#5 Posted:
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I wouldn't bother speculating about it until there is proof... Until then it still fits in the realm of "look at all the people the Clinton's had killed!"...

There are so many horrible things he has already done to our presidency... Why bother focusing on things that may or may not have happened.
Mr. Jones Offline
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I don't really care...if it was before his presidency...

But, if he says it multiple times a day ,
Since day one of his presidency??
Well then...he is one dumb F'er and not presidential to say the least...

I can just hear LBJ AND NIXON saying it all the time in private....

Its just the way it used to be...

I watch Netflix comedy specials...

All the BLACK COMICS GET A FREE PASS...

I SAY THAT'S TOTAL B.S. ...but it is funny as hell...

Prejudice and racist are totally different animals...
180 degrees difference...

Black people rough whites all the time in private...

I could care less..really ...don't care one eye-oat-ta AT ALL.
tailgater Offline
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I wasn't aware that support of your President constituted being on a bandwagon.

HuckFinn Offline
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If Omarosa produces proof I probably won't be any more disappointed in Trump than I am already. I don't need more proof that he's a racist. This wouldn't be an isolated incident.

There'd be a chit storm of course, but been there, done that.



DrMaddVibe Offline
#9 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
I wasn't aware that support of your President constituted being on a bandwagon.




Its really confusing.

See, they loved him...wanted his contributions...invited him to their parties, he invited them...swam in the deep end of the pool. Then when he decided to switch parties and run as a Republican it blew their little bat$hit crazy minds. When he overturned the wills of those that were "With Her" and he dismantled the entire DNC they got bitter, jaded and to this day still cry about Trump.

It's really confusing.

IF there was any proof of him being a racist it would be out already. Idiots want to forget the guy dated a black super model...sued a Florida county to allow blacks into country clubs and won...and has donated money, time and efforts to some of the largest black enterprises out there, but hey...haters gotta hate...even if it's one of theirs!

It's really confusing.
DrafterX Offline
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I'm confused alot... Sad
Mr. Jones Offline
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#9 DMV ^^^

VERY POST
WELL STATED

NO WAY IN H3LL IS DONALD TRUMP A RACIST,
IN FACT ...
QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

IS HE A "tad" prejudice when he's alone... joking with lifelong friends?
Only they know the answer to that.

Many of his followers fill any description you can think of,
A total spectrum of dozens of beliefs and attributes that form his main core base...
It is what it is...

You can't blame TRUMP for what his fringe supporters do or say, he CAN call them out and disparage or disown them...
He has done that on several occasions to my knowledge.

All those things that DMV mentioned and probably many others show his support of the Black community in general.
I'm sure there are way many more that he stays anonymous about and behind the scenes.
ZRX1200 Offline
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LMMFAO
Mr. Jones Offline
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^^^yo ...Z... QUIT BANGIN' YOUR MUDDER...
dstieger Offline
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Mr. Jones wrote:


You can't blame TRUMP for what his fringe supporters do or say, he CAN call them out and disparage or disown them...
He has done that on several occasions to my knowledge.



I must have missed them


It's been one of my bigger complaints....he could get a lot of mileage out of it...but he just can't bring himself to do it.....when he almost gets close....we get "but....there's bad people over there, too"
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During the primaries in 2016, I heard an interview of Hollyweed reporter that trailed Donald Trump in his TV days. She was looking for the dirt. Said she never found any. I'm guessing he never used the word.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Dude, he's probably used the word in the last five minutes... I don't know what reporter that was, but she was not good at her job... That's not an opinion or a judgement, just a fact... The sky is blue, it's 92 degrees outside, and that woman was terrible at her job...
delta1 Offline
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response posts raise more questions...

Does use of the N word imply the user is a racist?

Is Trump a racist?

Do Trump supporters care whether or not he's a racist?

Does America care whether its political leaders are racists, or prejudiced and discriminatory against protected classes?
dstieger Offline
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delta1 wrote:
response posts raise more questions...

Does use of the N word imply the user is a racist?

Is Trump a racist?

Do Trump supporters care whether or not he's a racist?

Does America care whether its political leaders are racists, or prejudiced and discriminatory against protected classes?


Maybe first, you should ask:
What is a racist?

Short of very pointed, explicit comments, can who can even judge whether or not someone is racist?

Not trying to be flip....I just think the word has been somewhat corrupted to the point that there seems to be a pretty wide swath of people that have it applied to them....at least more than in the past, IMO....Not saying that it isn't correct, necessarily....but when some members of our society are willing to stick the tag onto anyone with a viewpoint right of center, it may start diluting its meaning....or changing it, anyway.
delta1 Offline
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Good point...has racism as a cultural issue in America been over-shadowed and marginalized by the political divide between the left and the right? The right seems to have a blind spot to it whereas the left seems to be overly sensitive and attribute all con policy with negative consequences to Americans, affecting the poor disproportionately, as racially motivated.

This was illustrated to me by media coverage of Omarosa's accusations about Trump's alleged use of the N word. Not one mention in con media, and leading topic in lib media...
DrafterX Offline
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It's all over FOX news... Nobody is sweeping this under the rug... Not talking
JadeRose Offline
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I think he had the jungle fever for Omarosa and she turned him down.
frankj1 Offline
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JadeRose wrote:
I think he had the jungle fever for Omarosa and she turned him down.

I was curious what her job was...
ZRX1200 Offline
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OYaOJdVbK4c
delta1 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I was curious what her job was...


to fetch him a big cigar, lay on the floor and then roll over while he enjoyed it?
tailgater Offline
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From one year ago:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-race-trump-economy-progress-0822-story.html#

Interesting article written by an economic analyst for CNN.


Basically, it spells out how Trump's actions speak louder than words. Imagined or otherwise.

Putting black families back to work.
Increasing their wages.
Paving the way for better educational opportunities.

Those things should matter.
And they do, for anyone who can shed their partisan hatred.

delta1 Offline
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The first sentence of the article is very revealing...
victor809 Offline
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The whole article is very dumb.

I have no problem with black employment going up, but what evidence do we have that that's no simply a side effect of other policies trump put in place ostensibly to help his base? If a Klansman accidentally saves 5 black people when he prevents a bus from going off a cliff, does that mean he's suddenly not racist?

As for the voucher stuff.... I don't buy that bull**** for a moment and neither should you.
The act of gutting poor public schools of money (which my understanding is what the voucher program does) dooms any kids remaining there. So you increase the number of kids you give vouchers to... You take bodies out of these failing schools (which I believe takes money away) and damn whatever percentage you leave behind.
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tailgater wrote:
From one year ago:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-race-trump-economy-progress-0822-story.html#

Interesting article written by an economic analyst for CNN.


Basically, it spells out how Trump's actions speak louder than words. Imagined or otherwise.

Putting black families back to work.
Increasing their wages.
Paving the way for better educational opportunities.

Those things should matter.
And they do, for anyone who can shed their partisan hatred.



From the article:

"median family incomes have risen by more than $1,000, according‎ to Sentier Research and based on Census Bureau numbers. These numbers are not broken down by race, but it's a pretty good bet that black incomes have risen with those of other races under Trump."

How do we really know that black families are taking home more money? I'm not a math scientist, but could all of the gains not have gone to the top 1% of income earners, and that would still bring up the median income even though the "average" family might not have seen an increase in income? Not saying that happened, but it's possible.

If black incomes really did increase, why not break it down by race and average? The Census Bureau has that data, but the economic analyst chose to go with median family incomes to push his agenda. Sounds fishy to me...but I'm not smart with the numbers.

And I agree with Victor about the vouchers. They leave those kids who need the most help in the worst situation.

Plenty of things Trump could do to help the black community. I will keep my eyes peeled...
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victor809 wrote:
The whole article is very dumb.

I have no problem with black employment going up, but what evidence do we have that that's no simply a side effect of other policies trump put in place ostensibly to help his base? If a Klansman accidentally saves 5 black people when he prevents a bus from going off a cliff, does that mean he's suddenly not racist?

As for the voucher stuff.... I don't buy that bull**** for a moment and neither should you.
The act of gutting poor public schools of money (which my understanding is what the voucher program does) dooms any kids remaining there. So you increase the number of kids you give vouchers to... You take bodies out of these failing schools (which I believe takes money away) and damn whatever percentage you leave behind.


And your solution is you leave bodies in these failing schools?
victor809 Offline
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No Opel.
But to claim it is helping minorities is simply false.
Give some small percentage vouchers to go somewhere else and make sure the rest have an even more poorly funded school and poor education...?

The value and use of vouchers as a means to allow private schools is a separate discussion. But to claim that it's helping minorities is just bull****. If anything it helps those who already use these schools (wealthy middle class) as it is theoretically diverting tax money to these private schools. (Again, correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is this allows private schools to receive some portion of the tax money for a student)
Ruby Offline
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tailgater wrote:
From one year ago:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-race-trump-economy-progress-0822-story.html#

Interesting article written by an economic analyst for CNN.


Basically, it spells out how Trump's actions speak louder than words. Imagined or otherwise.

Putting black families back to work.
Increasing their wages.
Paving the way for better educational opportunities.

Those things should matter.
And they do, for anyone who can shed their partisan hatred.



AGREE 100 percent
frankj1 Offline
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Ruby wrote:
AGREE 100 percent

Hold off on the parade...

White House admits making false claim on black employment.

Sanders sort of set the record straight late Tuesday on Twitter.

In short, Obama did not create only 195K jobs for African Americans, in fact the number was 3 Million.

"In fact, the most dramatic drop in black unemployment came during the Obama administration...as it fell from 16.8% to 7.8%."

yet also true

... "it is also true that black workers have continued to gain as the rate has dropped to 5.9%, but that is still nearly double that of whites."

To my way of thinking, proper wording should be that jobs were created during the tenure of (fill in the blank), as opposed to saying (fill in the blank) created jobs.

a rising tide and all that...

"Sanders linked to a tweet by the White House Council of Economic Advisers (whoever they are), which claimed responsibility for the 'miscommunication'."
frankj1 Offline
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^^^
Associated Press
cacman Offline
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Noting like getting everyone's knickers in a twitch over a single word that MAY have been used years before he was Prez. About as substantial as the women he slept with before being Prez.

Listen to just about any Rap music and you'll hear that word all day long.

Wag the dog! WGAF!
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cacman wrote:
Noting like getting everyone's knickers in a twitch over a single word that MAY have been used years before he was Prez. About as substantial as the women he slept with before being Prez.

Listen to just about any Rap music and you'll hear that word all day long.

Wag the dog! WGAF!

Black people GAF
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This points to a more troubling trend pointed out by the Chicago Tribune's editorial page:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-media-hate-20171027-story,amp.html
qmech Offline
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Troubled schools are failing ...Money pumped in ....Same results... So I guess we continue to pump money in expecting different results?

What would one call this?

PS I am not saying Vouchers are the answer. But expressing the idea that different strategies are worth exploring.

A fact check is needed on both Sanders and Trump..What are the real numbers? What was the net gain: jobs created jobs lost? What kind of jobs were created? What are they not telling us,? Etc... You really trust that these guys are giving us the whole story or spinning it to gain political favor? Ideologues from both parties are troubling.... Personally I do not like to eat Elephant & Donkey scat.😁
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victor809 wrote:
The whole article is very dumb.

I have no problem with black employment going up, but what evidence do we have that that's no simply a side effect of other policies trump put in place ostensibly to help his base? If a Klansman accidentally saves 5 black people when he prevents a bus from going off a cliff, does that mean he's suddenly not racist?

As for the voucher stuff.... I don't buy that bull**** for a moment and neither should you.
The act of gutting poor public schools of money (which my understanding is what the voucher program does) dooms any kids remaining there. So you increase the number of kids you give vouchers to... You take bodies out of these failing schools (which I believe takes money away) and damn whatever percentage you leave behind.


So I guess you refuse to shed your hate.

Carry on.
tailgater Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Black people GAF


Huck speaks for the black community now.




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Does he get to use the 'N' word..?? Huh
tailgater Offline
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I've said before that even if Trump did something amazing (cure cancer, create world peace, etc.) that TDS would prevent the haters from accept it.

We now have numbers to suggest that Trump policies are helping the black community.
Whether by design or simply the fact that helping ALL Americans will therefore help black Americans, I don't know.
And it doesn't matter.

The article isn't intended to imply that Donald Trump is on a crusade to save the black man.
It simple states, with numbers and facts, that he IS helping.

And the haters try to backtrack it. To find the loophole.

I predicted this.
But I can't take too much credit.
Because you guys are predictable.
tailgater Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Does he get to use the 'N' word..?? Huh


Posers like Huck are the worst offenders.

DrafterX Offline
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That Bassard..!! Mad
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tailgater wrote:
Posers like Huck are the worst offenders.


The thinner your argument gets, the more cutting your insults. Predictable.

TG, you are a racist apologist. If some goon in a sheet, at your door, asked for donations you'd ask them to first say 'trick or treat' and then to please put out the burning cross next store.

In the 30's and 40's who should have been asked the question 'does antisemitism exist in Germany'?
Jews or Germans?

So of course, you want the truth? Ask Black Americans. Reasearch what they're saying.

Ask them how and if they're impacted by Trump's good people on both sides policy.

Do a bit of research regarding the uptick in racism thanks to Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/08/15/is-trump-a-racist-you-dont-need-an-n-word-tape-to-know/

Reading posts and funnier, definitions of racism on a probably all white, right of center forum is pretty funny though. Well worth the price of admission.
delta1 Offline
#45 Posted:
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three days after the OP, this topic "Is Trump a racist" is SO old news...

Gotta hand it to Trump...he sure knows how to change the subject, deflect attention, and distract...not that his alleged use of the "N" word would have any affect on his supporters...

but his Nixonian enemies list and drop-kicking Brennan is the new self-inflicted s**t-storm...he may not be Presidential, but he sure is entertaining while in that office...

^^ #44...PS: Huck, the cons don't GAF what black people think or believe...they just want them to keep their mouths shut and sit their azzes down, unless the National Anthem is playing...
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OhMyGod
HuckFinn Offline
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I know that, and you know that delta, but do they?
And if some do, why don't they openly acknowledge it?

What's the big magilla?
At least then we could have an honest conversation.

DrafterX Offline
#48 Posted:
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So now supporting our President means we hate the black peoples..?? Huh
HuckFinn Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
So now supporting our President means we hate the black peoples..?? Huh

If black people think Trump is racist, and you support Trump, yeah.
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Okay Kanye...
Mellow
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