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RMAN4443 Offline
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I'm just trying to understand this, I guess I never really paid attention.....So if I understand what's being said here, there is no hope to combat this racism....it's never going to change because of things that happened in the past? Black people and white people are destined to hate each other forever for things that happened before most of us ever existed? And nobody really cares?
So black vs. white is going to follow the same path as Palestine/Israel or Muslim/non-Muslim Infidels, or the Hatfields/McCoys? One side hating the other for things that happened in the past...one side hating the other until one side eliminates the other from existence ?
I grew up in a city that had a large population of black families.I went to school with and played sports with many black(and white) kids.There were fights and disagreements, but I don't remember it being racial,just kid chit. I never used the word....yes I heard it used, but not very often....usually whoever did use it regularly was pretty much forced from the group...and they had to fight every time they said it
I just don't get it....I can't believe that this can never be overcome,,,,,smh....absolutely unbelievable to me...wondering if I should reconsider some places I go and who I go there with....I tailgate with 5 or 6 black guys at Patriots games,how do I know what they're up too, maybe they're up to something, how can I find out before it's to late? SERIOUSLY????

Just in case you can't figure it out Huck, that last few sentences were sarcasm.....

and as far as white privilege ....according to your link/definition You don't even know what White Privilege means.
In case you're interested:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
excerpted from above link
The concept has attracted attention and some opposition. Some critics say that the term uses the concept of "whiteness" as a proxy for class or other social privilege or as a distraction from deeper underlying problems of inequality.[4][5] Others state that it is not that whiteness is a proxy but that many other social privileges are interconnected with it, requiring complex and careful analysis to identify how whiteness contributes to privilege.[6] Critics of the concept of white privilege also propose alternative definitions of whiteness and exceptions to or limits of white identity, arguing that the concept of white privilege ignores important differences between white subpopulations and individuals and suggesting that the notion of whiteness cannot be inclusive of all white people.[7][8] They note the problem of acknowledging the diversity of people of color and ethnicity within these groups

Conservative critics have offered more direct critiques of the concept; one writes that "today ... the lives of minorities are no longer stunted by either prejudice or 'white privilege'"

Cory Weinburg, writing for Inside Higher Ed, has also stated that the concept of white privilege is frequently misinterpreted by non-academics because it is an academic concept that has recently been brought into the mainstream.

Maybe you'd like to go back and CHECK YOUR RESEARCH to ensure it supports your argument rather than refute it...BUTTHEAD

Your Welcome,
BEAVIS
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I'm just trying to understand this, I guess I never really paid attention.....So if I understand what's being said here, there is no hope to combat this racism....it's never going to change because of things that happened in the past? Black people and white people are destined to hate each other forever for things that happened before most of us ever existed? And nobody really cares?
So black vs. white is going to follow the same path as Palestine/Israel or Muslim/non-Muslim Infidels, or the Hatfields/McCoys? One side hating the other for things that happened in the past...one side hating the other until one side eliminates the other from existence ?
I grew up in a city that had a large population of black families.I went to school with and played sports with many black(and white) kids.There were fights and disagreements, but I don't remember it being racial,just kid chit. I never used the word....yes I heard it used, but not very often....usually whoever did use it regularly was pretty much forced from the group...and they had to fight every time they said it
I just don't get it....I can't believe that this can never be overcome,,,,,smh....absolutely unbelievable to me...wondering if I should reconsider some places I go and who I go there with....I tailgate with 5 or 6 black guys at Patriots games,how do I know what they're up too, maybe they're up to something, how can I find out before it's to late? SERIOUSLY????

Just in case you can't figure it out Huck, that last few sentences were sarcasm.....

and as far as white privilege ....according to your link/definition You don't even know what White Privilege means.
In case you're interested:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
excerpted from above link
The concept has attracted attention and some opposition. Some critics say that the term uses the concept of "whiteness" as a proxy for class or other social privilege or as a distraction from deeper underlying problems of inequality.[4][5] Others state that it is not that whiteness is a proxy but that many other social privileges are interconnected with it, requiring complex and careful analysis to identify how whiteness contributes to privilege.[6] Critics of the concept of white privilege also propose alternative definitions of whiteness and exceptions to or limits of white identity, arguing that the concept of white privilege ignores important differences between white subpopulations and individuals and suggesting that the notion of whiteness cannot be inclusive of all white people.[7][8] They note the problem of acknowledging the diversity of people of color and ethnicity within these groups

Conservative critics have offered more direct critiques of the concept; one writes that "today ... the lives of minorities are no longer stunted by either prejudice or 'white privilege'"

Cory Weinburg, writing for Inside Higher Ed, has also stated that the concept of white privilege is frequently misinterpreted by non-academics because it is an academic concept that has recently been brought into the mainstream.

Maybe you'd like to go back and CHECK YOUR RESEARCH to ensure it supports your argument rather than refute it...BUTTHEAD

Your Welcome,
BEAVIS

Damn! You culled through all these other definitions (below) to find the two that ran a bit contrary.
Congrats. Again, thanks for the laugh!

The definition of white privilege, as with many terms, varies from source to source, but is generally distinguished from active bias or prejudice against non-white people.[13] The following is a partial list of definitions:

"White privilege is the ability for Whites to maintain an elevated status in society that masks racial inequality."
Andersen, M.; Taylor, H.; Logio, K. (2014). Sociology: The Essentials (8th ed.). Cengage Learning. p. 424. ISBN 978-1-285-96566-6.

"White privilege has been defined by David Wellman as a system of advantage based on race. It has been compared by Peggy McIntosh to an invisible, weightless knapsack of assets and resources that she was given because she was born White in her time and place in U.S. society. Paula Rothenberg defines White privilege as the other side of discrimination, meaning the opposite of discrimination."
Banks, J. (2012). Encyclopedia of Diversity in Education. Thousand Oaks, California: SAGE Publications. p. 2300. ISBN 978-1-4129-8152-1.

"White privilege, specifically, is an institutional set of unearned benefits granted to White people (Kendall, 2001, 2006; McIntosh, 1989; Sue, 2003). Sue (2003) defines White privilege as "unearned advantages and benefits" given to White persons based on a system that was "normed on the experiences, values, and perceptions" of White persons (p. 7). McIntosh (1989) characterizes White privilege as "an invisible package of unearned assets which I can count on cashing in each day, but about which I was 'meant' to remain oblivious" (p. 10). She likens it to "an invisible weightless knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools, and blank checks" (p. 10). Kendall (2006) describes White privilege as "an institutional, rather than personal, set of benefits granted to" (p. 63) people whose race resembles that of the people who are in power."
Dressel, J. L.; Kerr, S.; Steven, H. B. (2010). "Developing Competency with White Identity and Privilege". In Cornish; et al. Handbook of multicultural counseling competencies. Hoboken, N.J: John Wiley. ISBN 978-0-470-43746-9.

"McIntosh is adept at describing the daily advantage white people have based on the color of their skin. Wildman (2000) discusses the characteristics of the privileged by saying they "define the societal norm, often benefiting those in the privileged group. Second, privileged group members can rely on their privilege and avoid objecting to oppression" (p. 53). The result of this societal norm is that everyone is required to live by the attributes held by the privileged. In society white people define and determine the terms of success and failure; they are the norm. Thus, "achievements by members of the privileged group are viewed as meritorious and the result of individual effort, rather than as privileged" (p. 53)."
Lund, C. L. (2010). "The nature of white privilege in the teaching and training of adults". New Directions for Adult and Continuing Education. 2010 (125): 18. doi:10.1002/ace.359.
"Experts define White privilege as a combination of exclusive standards and opinions that are supported by Whites in a way that continually reinforces social distance between groups on the basis of power, access, advantage, majority status, control, choice, autonomy, authority, possessions, wealth, opportunity, materialistic acquisition, connection, access, preferential treatment, entitlement, and social standing (Hays & Chang, 2003; Manning & Baruth, 2009)."
Vang, C. T. (2010). An educational psychology of methods in multicultural education. New York: Peter Lang. pp. 36 and 37. ISBN 978-1-4331-0790-0.

"White privilege" refers to the myriad of social advantages, benefits, and courtesies that come with being a member of the dominant race."
Delgado, Richard; Stefancic, Jean (2001). Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York and London: New York University Press. p. 78. ISBN 0-8147-1931-7.

"White privilege is a form of racism that both underlies and is distinct from institutional and overt racism. It underlies them in that both are predicated on preserving the privileges of white people (regardless of whether agents recognize this or not). But it is also distinct in terms of intentionality. It refers to the hegemonic structures, practices, and ideologies that reproduce whites' privileged status. In this scenario, whites do not necessarily intend to hurt people of color, but because they are unaware of their white-skin privilege, and because they accrue social and economic benefits by maintaining the status quo, they inevitably do."
Pulido, L. (2000). "Rethinking Environmental Racism: White Privilege and Urban Development in Southern California". Annals of the Association of American Geographers. 90: 15. doi:10.1111/0004-5608.00182.

Cheryl Harris describes whiteness as a form of property, which confers privileges on its holders. In "Whiteness as Property," Harris writes, "The wages of whiteness are available to all whites, regardless of class position — even to those whites who are without power, money, or influence. Whiteness, the characteristic that distinguishes them from blacks, serves as compensation even to those who lack material wealth. It is the relative political advantages extended to whites, rather than actual economic gains, that are crucial to white workers."
Cheryl, Harris (1995). "Whiteness as Property". In Crenshaw, Kimberlé. Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings that Formed the Movement. New York: The New Press. p. 286. ISBN 1-56584-271-5.

You forgot all these, right? But you knew that. Sneak!

This is tedious. I'm not accusing you of be a racist. Again, this is about a word.

I'd ask you to quit trying to antagonize me,but that'd set you off I'm guessing.

Sides, DGAF, knock yourself out!



HuckFinn Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Your fighting a false narrative.
I don't use the word. I find it offensive.
I just don't think that using it makes a person a racist.
Sorry you feel a single word defines a person.

I'm not jockeying for a right to use a foul term. I've got plenty at my disposal if I so choose.
So we're on the same page there.
But the word you fear has become a punchline, not a racist battle cry.
Not saying that's right or wrong. Just giving you the reality of the situation since you seem so lost in the academia of it all.



Hm? I don't think any single word can define any single individual. Even 'murderer'.

I don't even fear the word TG. Like you I simply think it's abhorrent.

And I sure don't feel lost! Or that the argument made by Blacks is academic.
Appears real from where I'm sitting. A real chair btw.

RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Damn! You culled through all these other definitions (below) to find the two that ran a bit contrary.
Congrats. Again, thanks for the laugh!

The definition of white privilege, as with many terms, varies from source to source, but is generally distinguished from active bias or prejudice against non-white people.[13] The following is a partial list of definitions:

"White privilege is the ability for Whites to maintain an elevated status in society that masks racial inequality."
Andersen, M.; Taylor, H.; Logio, K. (2014). Sociology: The Essentials (8th ed.). Cengage Learning. p. 424. ISBN 978-1-285-96566-6.

"White privilege has been defined by David Wellman as a system of advantage based on race. It has been compared by Peggy McIntosh to an invisible, weightless knapsack of assets and resources that she was given because she was born White in her time and place in U.S. society. Paula Rothenberg defines White privilege as the other side of discrimination, meaning the opposite of discrimination."
Banks, J. (2012). Encyclopedia of Diversity in Education. Thousand Oaks, California: SAGE Publications. p. 2300. ISBN 978-1-4129-8152-1.

"White privilege, specifically, is an institutional set of unearned benefits granted to White people (Kendall, 2001, 2006; McIntosh, 1989; Sue, 2003). Sue (2003) defines White privilege as "unearned advantages and benefits" given to White persons based on a system that was "normed on the experiences, values, and perceptions" of White persons (p. 7). McIntosh (1989) characterizes White privilege as "an invisible package of unearned assets which I can count on cashing in each day, but about which I was 'meant' to remain oblivious" (p. 10). She likens it to "an invisible weightless knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools, and blank checks" (p. 10). Kendall (2006) describes White privilege as "an institutional, rather than personal, set of benefits granted to" (p. 63) people whose race resembles that of the people who are in power."
Dressel, J. L.; Kerr, S.; Steven, H. B. (2010). "Developing Competency with White Identity and Privilege". In Cornish; et al. Handbook of multicultural counseling competencies. Hoboken, N.J: John Wiley. ISBN 978-0-470-43746-9.

"McIntosh is adept at describing the daily advantage white people have based on the color of their skin. Wildman (2000) discusses the characteristics of the privileged by saying they "define the societal norm, often benefiting those in the privileged group. Second, privileged group members can rely on their privilege and avoid objecting to oppression" (p. 53). The result of this societal norm is that everyone is required to live by the attributes held by the privileged. In society white people define and determine the terms of success and failure; they are the norm. Thus, "achievements by members of the privileged group are viewed as meritorious and the result of individual effort, rather than as privileged" (p. 53)."
Lund, C. L. (2010). "The nature of white privilege in the teaching and training of adults". New Directions for Adult and Continuing Education. 2010 (125): 18. doi:10.1002/ace.359.
"Experts define White privilege as a combination of exclusive standards and opinions that are supported by Whites in a way that continually reinforces social distance between groups on the basis of power, access, advantage, majority status, control, choice, autonomy, authority, possessions, wealth, opportunity, materialistic acquisition, connection, access, preferential treatment, entitlement, and social standing (Hays & Chang, 2003; Manning & Baruth, 2009)."
Vang, C. T. (2010). An educational psychology of methods in multicultural education. New York: Peter Lang. pp. 36 and 37. ISBN 978-1-4331-0790-0.

"White privilege" refers to the myriad of social advantages, benefits, and courtesies that come with being a member of the dominant race."
Delgado, Richard; Stefancic, Jean (2001). Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York and London: New York University Press. p. 78. ISBN 0-8147-1931-7.

"White privilege is a form of racism that both underlies and is distinct from institutional and overt racism. It underlies them in that both are predicated on preserving the privileges of white people (regardless of whether agents recognize this or not). But it is also distinct in terms of intentionality. It refers to the hegemonic structures, practices, and ideologies that reproduce whites' privileged status. In this scenario, whites do not necessarily intend to hurt people of color, but because they are unaware of their white-skin privilege, and because they accrue social and economic benefits by maintaining the status quo, they inevitably do."
Pulido, L. (2000). "Rethinking Environmental Racism: White Privilege and Urban Development in Southern California". Annals of the Association of American Geographers. 90: 15. doi:10.1111/0004-5608.00182.

Cheryl Harris describes whiteness as a form of property, which confers privileges on its holders. In "Whiteness as Property," Harris writes, "The wages of whiteness are available to all whites, regardless of class position — even to those whites who are without power, money, or influence. Whiteness, the characteristic that distinguishes them from blacks, serves as compensation even to those who lack material wealth. It is the relative political advantages extended to whites, rather than actual economic gains, that are crucial to white workers."
Cheryl, Harris (1995). "Whiteness as Property". In Crenshaw, Kimberlé. Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings that Formed the Movement. New York: The New Press. p. 286. ISBN 1-56584-271-5.

You forgot all these, right? But you knew that. Sneak!

This is tedious. I'm not accusing you of be a racist. Again, this is about a word.

I'd ask you to quit trying to antagonize me,but that'd set you off I'm guessing.

Sides, DGAF, knock yourself out!





I used your well "researched" link to get my info......https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege, and by the 3rd paragraph it told me....

The concept has attracted attention and some opposition. Some critics say that the term uses the concept of "whiteness" as a proxy for class or other social privilege or as a distraction from deeper underlying problems of inequality.[4][5] Others state that it is not that whiteness is a proxy but that many other social privileges are interconnected with it, requiring complex and careful analysis to identify how whiteness contributes to privilege.[6] Critics of the concept of white privilege also propose alternative definitions of whiteness and exceptions to or limits of white identity, arguing that the concept of white privilege ignores important differences between white subpopulations and individuals and suggesting that the notion of whiteness cannot be inclusive of all white people.[7][8] They note the problem of acknowledging the diversity of people of color and ethnicity within these groups

Conservative critics have offered more direct critiques of the concept; one writes that "today ... the lives of minorities are no longer stunted by either prejudice or 'white privilege'"

Cory Weinburg, writing for Inside Higher Ed, has also stated that the concept of white privilege is frequently misinterpreted by non-academics because it is an academic concept that has recently been brought into the mainstream.

after that point I saw no point in reading any further, having read several of your previously "researched" topics, again the scent of your Bullchit was permeating the aird'oh!

I'm glad your not accusing me of being a racist...Thanks BUTTHEAD....
Beavis
PS.
so to answer your question, I didn't cull anything, I just stopped reading after the first 3 or 4 paragraphs outright refuted your ?argument? as BullChit....once again
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:


This is tedious. I'm not accusing you of be a racist. Again, this is about a word.

I'd ask you to quit trying to antagonize me,but that'd set you off I'm guessing.

Sides, DGAF, knock yourself out!




I antagonize you?????funny....

I find you to be like the sand in the crack of my azz after a day at the beach....but I can shower that away when I get home....
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Mellow
victor809 Offline
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Drafter... Why did you get sand in rman's crack? Didn't you two use a towel???
DrafterX Offline
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I didn't do it.. Not talking

He did kinda leave himself wide open there tho... Laugh
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... well... Leaving yourself wide open at the beach is a sure way to get sand in your crack....
dstieger Offline
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What about Mick?

Probably heard Brown Sugar a thousand times, but only recently actually read the lyrics and was sorta...wow...never realized

And of course, there's that Monkey Man song
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And the Rolly Polly Man song.. which was actually the Hurdy Gurdy Man song.. Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
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And what about It's Not Easy Bein' Green by Kermit
delta1 Offline
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speaking of green...anybody here know about the Green Book? Some of my Dad's customers at his store told me about it when I worked there growing up in the late 50's and early 60's. Most of our customers were black: men worked as porters on the railroad or janitors, women as housekeepers or nannies...


https://www.history.com/news/the-green-book-the-black-travelers-guide-to-jim-crow-america


talk about not being welcome in one's own country...take a look and convince me that white exclusion in some places is the same...
DrafterX Offline
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I'm tired boss... Sad
DrafterX Offline
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Tired of being on the road, lonely as sparrow in the rain. I'm tired of never having a buddy to be with, to tell me where we's going to, coming from or why. Mostly, I'm tired of people being ugly to each other.... Sad
delta1 Offline
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sorry, Drafter...I do like that you're tired of people being ugly to each other...

but the "153 years ago" comment seemed to be significant ... when racism supposedly ceased, or at least got a whole lot better, since the slaves were freed...


However, that ignores the fight for citizenship, the fight to own property, the battle for voting rights, state by state, in many parts of this country...when "separate but equal" Jim Crow laws were prevalent for 100 years after slavery was ruled illegal, enacted by the ruling majority to keep blacks in their rightful places.


fast forward to 2016...failure to renew the Voting Rights Act of 1965 by a GOP led Congress, which was weakened in 2013 by a SCOTUS with a slim con majority...some courts have ruled unconstitutional resultant state efforts to restrict minorities and the poor from voting since then...

so the fight to end racism continues...a few steps forward and some steps back...


hopefully, we all in America will someday stop being ugly to one another...
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I said SLAVERY ended 153 years ago....so in your mind it didn't?
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HuckFinn wrote:
And what about It's Not Easy Bein' Green by Kermit

What about THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE...


Or here's a better one for you BUTTHEAD, as the spokesman for black Americans. ...nobody knows the troubles you've seen, nobody knows....but you that is

Beavis
delta1 Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I said SLAVERY ended 153 years ago....so in your mind it didn't?


In my mind, SLAVERY ended 153 years ago, and rightfully so...we should celebrate that, and we do because Lincoln continues to be recognized as the greatest American President and freeing the slaves was a signature accomplishment...

but that did not end the oppression of black people in our country...the struggle for equality was a long and bitter one...not being allowed to own property or to vote, in many states, immediately after being freed...being discriminated against in all facets of life in many parts of the country...Jim Crow separate but (not really) equal laws... a struggle that continues today...
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delta1 wrote:
In my mind, SLAVERY ended 153 years ago, and rightfully so...we should celebrate that, and we do because Lincoln continues to be recognized as the greatest American President and freeing the slaves was a signature accomplishment...

but that did not end the oppression of black people in our country...the struggle for equality was a long and bitter one...not being allowed to own property or to vote, in many states, immediately after being freed...being discriminated against in all facets of life in many parts of the country...Jim Crow separate but (not really) equal laws... a struggle that continues today...

I'm not arguing that racism doesn't happen, but if you keep making excuses ,it will never end, so you go on making excuses,and I'll go on seeing people as PEOPLE,...not black white or green people, just plain old AMERICAN PEOPLE....I don't need BUTTHEAD telling me what black PEOPLE want....I'll just go on and assume that black people want to be treated like people, just like non black people do
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DrafterX wrote:
Tired of being on the road, lonely as sparrow in the rain. I'm tired of never having a buddy to be with, to tell me where we's going to, coming from or why. Mostly, I'm tired of people being ugly to each other.... Sad


It's a line from the Green Mile

Nice sentiment Drafter...
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
In my mind, SLAVERY ended 153 years ago, and rightfully so...we should celebrate that, and we do because Lincoln continues to be recognized as the greatest American President and freeing the slaves was a signature accomplishment...

but that did not end the oppression of black people in our country...the struggle for equality was a long and bitter one...not being allowed to own property or to vote, in many states, immediately after being freed...being discriminated against in all facets of life in many parts of the country...Jim Crow separate but (not really) equal laws... a struggle that continues today...


It's fair to say that there is still inequality among the races.
There are many factors involved.
But do you think that people of color face a systematic oppression in today's America?


Not a loaded question.
Oppression is a real word with real meaning.
I'm not Frankie (tripod) Wordsmith, but when words are purposefully used they should be used correctly.


tailgater Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I'm not arguing that racism doesn't happen, but if you keep making excuses ,it will never end, so you go on making excuses,and I'll go on seeing people as PEOPLE,...not black white or green people, just plain old AMERICAN PEOPLE....I don't need BUTTHEAD telling me what black PEOPLE want....I'll just go on and assume that black people want to be treated like people, just like non black people do


Did you research that?
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tailgater wrote:




I'm not Frankie (tripod) Wordsmith, but.....


Wait. You dont mean Frankie Wordsmith Longfellow? Do ya?



tailgater Offline
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She got her wads worth, if you know what I mean.
wink wink.
nudge nudge.

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yer good wif wirds!
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frankj1 wrote:
yer good wif wirds!

He are. For wad it's worth.

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tailgater wrote:
Did you research that?

I read about half of three different articles, and then I just kinda winged it from there.....Anxious
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