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School cookie dough sales...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#1 Posted:
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Anyone else encounter this scam? Kids are duped into selling frozen cookie dough that's so bad its sales are completely reliant upon people showing pity to children... All done under the guise of raising money for schools when in reality you're raising money for a terrible company that gives a little bit of money to schools...

My boy is 5 and can't really grasp all that yet, but what he certainly can grasp is that his school needs money to buy things that contribute to his education... And since it's his education he needs to be at least partly responsible for footing that bill.... Chores, bake sale, lemonade stand - his call... Heck, he can sell vacuums door to door if he wants.... But having your kids pressure their relatives into buying a product is not a good school fundraiser...

dstieger Offline
#2 Posted:
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I absolutely hate the idea.

As a potential customer of a product I neither want, nor need, I expect to be able to grill those responsible for the selling. I want to look at budgets, understand projected shortfalls, results of voter tax initiatives....can't do that to a five year old...pathetic ruse. I like to be able to look a Girl Scout in the eye and say "What percent of my $4 goes to your troop and what do you intend to do with it?" Five year olds aren't ready for this business.

If our public schools are broke...and I contend most are....then, funding, budgets and teacher compensation are every bit as broke -- 40 years ago we did some candy sales and other stuff, but IIRC, that was only for funding things like trips and sports/music equipment that was (understandably?) outside regular budgets
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted:
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Screw the cookie dough... Not talking
opelmanta1900 Offline
#4 Posted:
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I'm gonna take my boy to Costco and let him pick out different boxes of candy bars... Then I'm gonna drive him over to the dispensary my buddy runs... Them I'm gonna let him decide how much of that cold hard cash he wants to donate to his school...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#5 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Screw the cookie dough... Not talking

You just made the "do not sell to" list, buddy...
victor809 Offline
#6 Posted:
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When I was in school we would sell 10 minutes of dry humping drafter in the closet to raise money.....

victor809 Offline
#7 Posted:
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We made the most money outside the Catholic Church....
opelmanta1900 Offline
#8 Posted:
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I would've guessed inside...
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted:
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Posts: 98,508
freaks... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#10 Posted:
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We were careful... We weren't about to let drafter go inside with them....


They would have totally taken more than the 10minutes they paid for.

And the first time they did that he came back with only his shirt on....
Gene363 Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,669
Those school sales are mostly scams. crappy products, minuscule return for the school and putting children out peddling instead of being kids. Just donate some cash to the school needs if you wish.
delta1 Offline
#12 Posted:
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yep ... and Girl Scout cookies too...my daughter's sister-in-law participates annually and makes an effort to qualify her girls for some of the bigger prizes for total sales...my wife and I get away with buying only 3-4 boxes because we have health issues...

I don't really see how the young girls learn anything from watching mom peddle cookies for them and then they end up with a prize...but the alternative of having the girls stand outside supermarkets or going door-to-door are not appealing either...
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,508
Car washes... ThumpUp
MACS Offline
#14 Posted:
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Just had two dudes at my door trying to get me to switch to Frontier. I told them I wasn't interested and they kept talking, so I shut the door. Peeked out the peep-hole and saw them still standing there looking at their phones, so I opened the door and told them to leave my property.

Dude says, "Thanks for being rude", to which I replied, "That's what you get when you trespass on people's property to peddle shit they don't want."

Irritates me as much as cold calls... leave me the f*** alone.

dstieger Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
Back decades ago when I used to deliver newspapers, I'd see 'No Soliciting' signs on people's doors and think "No surprise - He's a ******'

But, now, I'm the ****** with the 'No Soliciting' sign and it has reduced the rings and knocks dramatically.
MACS Offline
#16 Posted:
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I had a "no soliciting" sign... but when I got the exterior of my house repainted, they removed it to paint the door. I need to put that back up.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#17 Posted:
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I used to sell kirby's... Door to door... I was 18 and didn't own a home so didn't realize how annoying I was to homeowners... I was always taught people put up no soliciting signs because they were too weak willed to say no to salesmen...
MACS Offline
#18 Posted:
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I put it up because I just don't want to be bothered.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#19 Posted:
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You need a hug...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#20 Posted:
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Victor can get you one from drafter I think...
Burner02 Offline
#21 Posted:
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Opt out letter, best idea ever.

No joke, for real.

https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/08/auburn_high_school_pto_has_bes.html
opelmanta1900 Offline
#22 Posted:
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Brilliant!
Just Relax Offline
#23 Posted:
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At the beginning of the year I just tell my kids’ teachers they aren’t going to participate in sales company fundraising and if they need supplies or $10 for something let me know.
Mr. Jones Offline
#24 Posted:
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I have T.W.O. NO SOLICITING SIGNS ON MY FRONT SCREEN DOOR.

when my mom was in ill health , she would try to get to the door when the bell rang...almost falling each time...
It WAS A SAFTEY ISSUE...SO I PUT THEM UP.

I HAVE TO SAY...it practically stopped them 100%...
They are still up there...because they work..

That door to door CRAP of begging, selling, fund raising was prevalent from 1965-2000....then it became less and less because people just got tired of it...

I hate douche bags who try and sell you candy or hoagies that are stale , taste like CRAP or outdated...
I just slam the door in their faces...that is if I even get up to answer it anymore..

I don't want to get shot by a HIRED( BY DISGRUNTLED LOSER FELON FBI-SSG AGENTS WITH A BAD TASTE STUCK IN THEIR CRAW BECAUSE THEY LOST) HITMAN POSING AS A FUND RAISER...

LITTLE DO THEY KNOW , I HAVE A LOADED .45 IN MY RIGHT MIT , COCKED ,CHAMBERED, SAFETY OFF....

DONT EVER F**K WITH ME ON MY HOME TURF...
YOU WILL LOSE.
SteveS Offline
#25 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I had a "no soliciting" sign... but when I got the exterior of my house repainted, they removed it to paint the door. I need to put that back up.


Quite a few years back, I knew a guy that made a pretty damn good living as a door-to-door salesman ... I went out one day with him to see how he did it ... he figured that he had to ring 100 doorbells a day in order to get the number of presentations he needed in order to yield the number of sales it took to make the income he wanted ...

One of his richest targets were homes that had "no solicitors" or "no salesmen" signs by the doorbell button ... when I asked about that he said that those were people that didn't know how to say "no" so they put up the signs to say No for them ... on the day I went with him, he made two sales to "no solicitor" homes ...
MACS Offline
#26 Posted:
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Talk to the guys I sent away... I had no issues telling them to gtfo.
bgz Offline
#27 Posted:
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I've screwed with salesmen before when I was bored.

Always starts with... listen, I'm not buying anything from you today (always tell them upfront).

Then when they refuse to take no for an answer, I will screw with them, asking questions and such and waste their time.

In the end, it's like, hey buddy, I told you at the very beginning I wasn't buying sh*t from you... you didn't listen.

If I got sh*t to do, I just say "not interested" and close the door.

I've also tried to convert Mormons and Jehovahs that knocked on my door in my time of boredom. That's always mildly entertaining. Speaking of which, it's been a while, they must have put me on a list.
delta1 Offline
#28 Posted:
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yah...I love it when they extend their hand for a "tap-out" handshake after 10-15 minutes of meaningless dialogue...
Whistlebritches Offline
#29 Posted:
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Little kid shows up selling crap for the school.......I learned long ago just give them a small donation and avoid their crap.

An adult shows up selling crap........they're very politely told to get the **** lost.

Cold calls.......I have a lot of fun with them bastids.
bgz Offline
#30 Posted:
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Oh, I love cold calls when I'm bored!!!

Especially the scammers claiming to be Microsoft. Those guys get so triggered.

danmdevries Offline
#31 Posted:
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If kids class needs money I'll give em money. Screw the peddling
Gene363 Offline
#32 Posted:
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I had a neighbor's son, in a Cub Scout uniform come to the door selling popcorn. He was noticeably uncomfortable and a little hyper, but I asked why he was selling the popcorn. He told me it was to support scouting, explained what was available and then said, "But honestly it's not very good popcorn." I told him that his honesty was fantastic, sign of a good Scout. I wrote a check to donate the Cub Scout pack.

frankj1 Offline
#33 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
I had a neighbor's son, in a Cub Scout uniform come to the door selling popcorn. He was noticeably uncomfortable and a little hyper, but I asked why he was selling the popcorn. He told me it was to support scouting, explained what was available and then said, "But honestly it's not very good popcorn." I told him that his honesty was fantastic, sign of a good Scout. I wrote a check to donate the Cub Scout pack.


the scouts needed that more than you needed the popcorn!
Well done.
Mr. Jones Offline
#34 Posted:
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I have ZERO PROBLEM handing these ****
One or two dollars in cash just to get rid of young kids such as scouts or school bands , etc...

The main problem is...I can take a "5 second look at anybody" and sum them up to a 98% always PERFECTLY CORRECT "good, bad or a IMMANENT threat"
..I WAS TRAINED AT IT BY EXPERTS...LONG AGO AND I NEVER LOST THE SKILL SET.
I look at some of these kids and I know immediately that 1/3 of the cash they collect as donations ( not for product sales) will never get to the proper fund raising money box...i.e.
They steal the money.

I don't want ANYTHING THEY ARE HAWKING because it is always substandard crappy foodstuffs...

They only make $1-2 bucks anyway on the $10.00 sale...
Cut out the crappy products and ask for one or two bucks right up front..
that I can handle.
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted:
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OK

can I have one or two bucks?
DrafterX Offline
#36 Posted:
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I told them I'd donate when they kick the girls out..

Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
#37 Posted:
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#35

N.O....you can't.

But, I'll give you a buck two fiddy...instead.
bassman45 Offline
#38 Posted:
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Reminds me of the old Jehovah's Witness joke:
The Jehovah Witness knocks on the door,guy invites him in the house. The Jehovah Witness sits down and doesn't say a word,guy says well ????Jehovah Witness says I don't know I've never gotten this far before.
tailgater Offline
#39 Posted:
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You don't buy stuff to help the school or organization.
You buy to make the kid look like a hero. The big kahuna.

When my kids were selling this crap I called the school to ask for the percent given to the school.
Crickets.

Cooler heads prevailed when the Mrs. told me to stay out of it, but I would have exposed those SOB cookie dealers for what they are.

The local scouts sell a very tasty candy popcorn.
It's $15 or $20 for a 6 oz bag.

As someone who has paid $20+ for dead leaves so I can burn them, it's sometimes hard to complain.


delta1 Offline
#40 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
You don't buy stuff to help the school or organization.
You buy to make the kid look like a hero. The big kahuna.

When my kids were selling this crap I called the school to ask for the percent given to the school.
Crickets.

Cooler heads prevailed when the Mrs. told me to stay out of it, but I would have exposed those SOB cookie dealers for what they are.

The local scouts sell a very tasty candy popcorn.
It's $15 or $20 for a 6 oz bag.

As someone who has paid $20+ for dead leaves so I can burn them, it's sometimes hard to complain.





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