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bgz Offline
#51 Posted: Fri, Oct 26 2018, 3:23 PM EST
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It doesn't take a conspiracy for all that. Most people are dumb af.

In order to compete against a powerful company, you have to be highly intelligent and have the drive, greed, connections and initial capital to do it.

Even then, it's a crap shoot whether you'll succeed at beating them or not.

You would need all the traits mentioned above, huge stones, and a true deep philosophical motive to overthrow a government. Not sure why anyone would want to even try to overthrow the US government. It's not perfect, but it does it's job sufficiently for the most part. Also, most people are well off by historic standards, including the poor. Most importantly, if you lose you're f**ked.

You don't need to try to create dumb workers, they manifest just fine on their own.
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#52 Posted: Fri, Oct 26 2018, 3:27 PM EST
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I think you mostly right. Creating a company and getting acquired is typically the route that most entrepreneurs are taking today. Which, of course isn't a bad thing except for the fact that large corporations run America.

I also was't trying to suggest an overthrowing of the government more of holding the government to a higher standard as the corruption in the US government seems to be increasing by the decade.

The biggest thing to remember is that the people hold all of the power. The Citizens of America and thats the biggest disadvantages to powerful people with agendas. At the end of the day you're right we live and we manifest, however, it is important to have the conversations in order to understand and stand up for the rights of Americans.
Bvolm680 Offline
#53 Posted: Fri, Oct 26 2018, 3:29 PM EST
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P.S. if there are any government lists out there i think I just found myself on one lmao. Sarcasm but seriously Whistle
bgz Offline
#54 Posted: Fri, Oct 26 2018, 3:41 PM EST
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You used the word overthrow... that word generally isn't used to describe knocking down corporations. I imagine it's pretty cutthroat at the top of a fortune 50 company... tends to be pretty cutthroat all the way down with everyone trying to claw their way up.

I wouldn't say corruption in government is more prevalent now than at any other point in history, but I do think it's more scrutinized and visible now than ever with the advent of the internet.

So politicians definitely have to be more careful now than say 100 years ago, which I would think it would imply less corruption than in the past.

In the end, we created money as a way to facilitate transactions and use it as a way to obtain status, power and respect. Therefore every rational person is going to make decisions based on the net monetary gain. There's no benefit to collapsing an adequately functioning government, as it will result in less valuable money for everyone... and no rational person wants that.

I stand by my opinion... the motive is always money.
Bvolm680 Offline
#55 Posted: Fri, Oct 26 2018, 3:54 PM EST
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Well, what about the Brexit? This was a huge government and citizen voting for the UK to pull out of the EU. Ever since that pull out both the pound and the Euro have taken great hits. I don't think monetary gain is everything. We have passions, opinions and values that trump any kind of monetary gain. The US dollar is weak the way it is right now. There are advantages and disadvantages of having a weak or strong dollar.

I would also say that yes the UK economist through the pound would bounce back, but they were still not 100% sure of the value of the pound would be greater before the event than after.

Bottom line I think there are more things that play into decisions than monetary positions. While yes, it is a big factor, it isn't the only factor, and shouldn't be the only factor. Like business don't only focus on increasing share prices for stockholders because people hold them to a sort of responsibility. Money runs the world, but it shouldn't run our minds.

I amend my statement of saying overthrow to holding to a higher standard. I also hope that you are right when it comes to the political corruption, however there are some things us citizens may never know.
bgz Offline
#56 Posted: Fri, Oct 26 2018, 4:27 PM EST
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Still money... UK wants out? Why? They think being a part of the EU is hurting their bottom line (and they're not wrong).

I totally 100% disagree with you... there might be other pieces of the puzzle in play, but when you add them up, it's always measured in dollars (or pounds and euros in this case)

Idealists don't make it to the top... silver tongued, greedy sociopaths do :D
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