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Who is more racist?
Brewha Offline
#51 Posted:
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the Nile anin’t just deep, it’s wide too....
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted:
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So it's ok to repeat as long as it's a joke... Didn't it originate as a joke..?? Trump can use it freely now..?? Think
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#53 Posted:
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Who was she speaking to..?? Huh
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#54 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
So it's ok to repeat as long as it's a joke... Didn't it originate as a joke..?? Trump can use it freely now..?? Think

actually, we've been incorrectly and casually calling it an old joke.
Brewha Offline
#55 Posted:
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It is a good question philosophically.

Is it ok to yell TRUMP! In a crowed movie house?
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#56 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Who was she speaking to..?? Huh

she said it to the woman(moderator?) who picked the wrong black guy...that's why it was meant as a joke. She was feigning indignation (like this thread) at the woman as though she really believed she could not tell them apart...something racists used to claim as true.

tell the truth...if you really watched it... was there ever even one second that you thought Hillary said it as a fact that she believes to be accurate?

I'd ask the same of everyone else. I'd find it hard to believe if anyone heard it as a serious verbal put down of blacks.
Brewha Offline
#57 Posted:
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Of course we are not respecting that she is guilty of joking while being Hillary....
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#58 Posted:
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No matter where, why or what if.. I don't think it was cool to keep it alive.. I still believe if Trump had said it, no matter the context, it would be all over the news still... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
#59 Posted:
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Isn't she close friends with a retired Grand Dragon?
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#60 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
No matter where, why or what if.. I don't think it was cool to keep it alive.. I still believe if Trump had said it, no matter the context, it would be all over the news still... Mellow


Of course it would.
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#61 Posted:
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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck it probably is a duck, even if you want to call it a dog. Was she joking, certainly. Is it still racist, yes. I personally don't think context matters. Something is racist or it is not. That joke is racist if told by David Duke or Harry Edwards. I find no argument compelling enough to make me think there is a grey area regarding racism.
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Speyside wrote:
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck it probably is a duck, even if you want to call it a dog. Was she joking, certainly. Is it still racist, yes. I personally don't think context matters. Something is racist or it is not. That joke is racist if told by David Duke or Harry Edwards. I find no argument compelling enough to make me think there is a grey area regarding racism.

sorry, Allen, I just don't agree with those limited parameters.
If I did, I'd have to suspect many here with whom I enjoy Jewish joshing as racists...and I would be very wrong to do so.
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#63 Posted:
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^ wise old fart.
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#64 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
sorry, Allen, I just don't agree with those limited parameters.
If I did, I'd have to suspect many here with whom I enjoy Jewish joshing as racists...and I would be very wrong to do so.

people who hate her shouldn't feel the need to justify it with this nonsense.
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#65 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ wise old fart.

is that a gas joke?
cuz I'm real sensitive about gas jokes.
DrafterX Offline
#66 Posted:
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And when Trump said ' Look at my African American' that wasn't even a joke but it caught headlines... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#67 Posted:
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I laughed tho... Laugh
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#68 Posted:
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cuz it was stoopid!
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#69 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I laughed tho... Laugh

cuz it was funny!
DrafterX Offline
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It was... The poor African American.. Laugh
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DrafterX wrote:
It was... The poor African American.. Laugh

not poor if Trump owns him!
if history is any guide, he'll eventually get 10 cents on the dollar after a protracted length of time in court.
DrafterX Offline
#72 Posted:
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Nice.... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#73 Posted:
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better than nuffin"
DrafterX Offline
#74 Posted:
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True.. true... Mellow


Better than 40 acres and a mule I'm sure... Mellow
Abrignac Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
sorry, Allen, I just don't agree with those limited parameters.
If I did, I'd have to suspect many here with whom I enjoy Jewish joshing as racists...and I would be very wrong to do so.


But, that’s exactly the point. You and I can joke all we want, because neither of us are going feint outrage at what the other says. Hillary on the other hand is part of the group who encourages people to be outraged anytime they are “insulted.”
bgz Offline
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^ true story
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#77 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
But, that’s exactly the point. You and I can joke all we want, because neither of us are going feint outrage at what the other says. Hillary on the other hand is part of the group who encourages people to be outraged anytime they are “insulted.”

sure it's just not part of hating her?...which is OK ya know.
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Frank, I get what you are saying. It makes sense. But it just doesn't align with what I think. I will say this. I will give it significant thought and consideration as I value your opinion greatly.
DrafterX Offline
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That's mighty white of you... Mellow
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frankj1 wrote:
Dood,you watched it.
you saw there was no racial prejudice implied, only hoped for here.
Diminish would imply she had racist intent. Impossible, given the facts, that I could diminish something if it did not occur.


You always get confused when I agree with you.

Hillary was NOT being racist.
I already said that.

When I say double-standard, it's when the old school white guy says something racial (not racist) and gets slammed. Even when he isn't being racist.

Not sure where I lost you on this one.
Other than the whole "we agree" conundrum.

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Speyside wrote:
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck it probably is a duck, even if you want to call it a dog. Was she joking, certainly. Is it still racist, yes. I personally don't think context matters. Something is racist or it is not. That joke is racist if told by David Duke or Harry Edwards. I find no argument compelling enough to make me think there is a grey area regarding racism.


Racial.

Racist.

Say them both.

They sound similar.

But they are different.


tailgater Offline
#82 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
sure it's just not part of hating her?...which is OK ya know.


You're right, you know.

And that's precisely how the Trump haters operate.

Although many will deny it.




Speyside Offline
#83 Posted:
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Frank, Tail really put into context the conclusion I came to. Hillary was not being racist. If Trump, or for that matter most if not all conservative politicians had said that, they would be blasted with intense outrage from the left.
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Speyside wrote:
Frank, Tail really put into context the conclusion I came to. Hillary was not being racist. If Trump, or for that matter most if not all conservative politicians had said that, they would be blasted with intense outrage from the left.


But it's a tough comparison to make, because the joke had to be said about two white guys.
It had to be either a woman or a person of color.
And I don't think republicans allow that...
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#85 Posted:
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side points as this winds down into repetitive oblivion

- had I brought up Trump in a thread about Hillary, I would have been blasted and diagnosed with Fake Disease Syndrome

- the new snowflakes (Trumpers) are not only butt hurt about what DOES happen to the Prez, but now it has evolved into what they assume WOULD happen...which sure sounds like a real syndrome to me.

Tripod...OUT!
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#86 Posted:
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Hillary lost... Mellow
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