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STILL OK to make offensive jokes. But only against conservatives.
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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 11:00 AM EST
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SNL apparently has a member named Pete Davidson.
Never heard of him, but he made a "joke" at the expense of Dan Crenshaw. A GOP candidate that is a war veteran and lost an eye while in service for our country.

As long as you say sorry, it's OK.

Well, unless you're a conservative joking about a democrat or some other protected species.


And no.
I'm not outraged. Not at the "joke". Not for SNL keeping the lefty loser.

I'm merely pointing out (again) the obvious double standard that lefties claim doesn't exist.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 11:38 AM EST
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You get a pass when you have a heroin addiction...
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 2:30 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
SNL apparently has a member named Pete Davidson.
Never heard of him, but he made a "joke" at the expense of Dan Crenshaw. A GOP candidate that is a war veteran and lost an eye while in service for our country.

As long as you say sorry, it's OK.

Well, unless you're a conservative joking about a democrat or some other protected species.


And no.
I'm not outraged. Not at the "joke". Not for SNL keeping the lefty loser.

I'm merely pointing out (again) the obvious double standard that lefties claim doesn't exist.



I posted about this last night, you didn't see the offense nor the makeup, but still somehow issued the con battlecry...WAAAAAH!

Kidding aside, it was handled very well. Crenshaw was cool. Davidson has a unique comedic persona, and recently was briefly engaged to Ariana Grande (I know minimum about her but she dumped him) and Crenshaw put that in play too.
rfenst Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 2:34 PM EST
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Given all that has happened between and with the two of them, why doubt his apology?
frankj1 Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 4:01 PM EST
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If Crenshaw not only accepted it but went before millions of viewers and had fun with it, why would conservatives make it an issue?
It was a tasteless attempt at humor, it failed, and the right thing was done.
MACS Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 6:12 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
If Crenshaw not only accepted it but went before millions of viewers and had fun with it, why would conservatives make it an issue?
It was a tasteless attempt at humor, it failed, and the right thing was done.


I think that was Joe's point. Had the roles been reversed, would it have gone the same way? Or would the left have screamed for the guy to be fired?

The dems won the house back... has anyone seen protests screaming for the right to "resist" or for calls of incivility?

*spoiler alert*

Nope.
frankj1 Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 8:00 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
I think that was Joe's point. Had the roles been reversed, would it have gone the same way? Or would the left have screamed for the guy to be fired?

The dems won the house back... has anyone seen protests screaming for the right to "resist" or for calls of incivility?

*spoiler alert*

Nope.

OK, I'll file this under the ever growing heading "Cons outraged about what they assume WOULD have happened".
SteveS Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 8:11 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
OK, I'll file this under the ever growing heading "Cons outraged about what they assume WOULD have happened".


no assumption involved ... we see it almost every day ... the double standard is rapidly becoming offensive in and of itself
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 8:19 PM EST
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not enough to complain at what does happen. It's now what would have happened in a situation that doesn't exist.

Got it.
MACS Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 8:28 PM EST
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I'm not outraged. I don't think Joe is either. I think the entire point is that we're NOT outraged, and we've seen how the left goes full outrage at these type of incidents.

*shrug*
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 8:31 PM EST
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I think blanket statements are silly.
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 8:43 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
If Crenshaw not only accepted it but went before millions of viewers and had fun with it, why would conservatives make it an issue?
It was a tasteless attempt at humor, it failed, and the right thing was done.


Do you guys purposely miss the point?

I agree that the apology should be good enough.
It was a bad joke.
Nothing more.

Explain the very real double standard.
Why conservative mistakes have disproportional consequences.





tailgater Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 8:44 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
OK, I'll file this under the ever growing heading "Cons outraged about what they assume WOULD have happened".


Why do you see outrage?

Questions are asked and you cry outrage.

Stop channeling your inner Elizabeth Warren.
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Nov 11 2018, 8:46 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Do you guys purposely miss the point?

I agree that the apology should be good enough.
It was a bad joke.
Nothing more.

Explain the very real double standard.
Why conservative mistakes have disproportional consequences.






I mistimed it before, sorry.
Now is the right time...WAAAAAH!!!

so silly to make blanket statements. So I will.
So typically Conservative.

see? Silly thing to do.
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Nov 13 2018, 4:44 PM EST
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http://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-pyschotic-traits/
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Nov 13 2018, 6:39 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-pyschotic-traits/

this one is only 2.5 years old, but way funnier than than the Flynn "article".

I'm gonna assume you were going for humor in both cases just by using the NY Post as a source for anything...and you really need to catch up on your rag reading!
tailgater Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Nov 13 2018, 6:46 PM EST
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So 2.5 years ago liberals were psychotic.

Does anyone think they've improved since?

Show of hands, please.
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Nov 13 2018, 6:49 PM EST
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Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Nov 13 2018, 6:55 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So 2.5 years ago liberals were psychotic.

Does anyone think they've improved since?

Show of hands, please.






ya gotta read it...Z was definitely kidding.

but ya, the improvement came from legalized pot.
delta1 Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Nov 13 2018, 7:12 PM EST
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dang...cons don't want us to laugh anymore...it's hard to remain dour constantly...this stuff is "rigged"...
tailgater Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 10:24 AM EST
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Legalized Pot.
With the Massachusetts loop hole: It's legal to smoke it, but you can't purchase it anywhere legally.

Both the libs and the cons can laugh at that one.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 11:13 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Legalized Pot.
With the Massachusetts loop hole: It's legal to smoke it, but you can't purchase it anywhere legally.

Both the libs and the cons can laugh at that one.



It was like that here for awhile too iirc... Silly... But you can grow it and give it away...
rfenst Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 11:19 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Legalized Pot.
With the Massachusetts loop hole: It's legal to smoke it, but you can't purchase it anywhere legally.

Both the libs and the cons can laugh at that one.


Even more stupid are Florida laws on medical marijuana. It is still illegal to smoke buds. One who has been approved for a med mar card can only buy cartridges of what is basically hash oil, that must be vaped. How about letting the patient and doctor decide what works best and not interfering with voters' will to amend our state constitution? I am comfortable asserting that the legislature interfered with voter intent. The end result of all this is that the person who funded the med mar ballot initiative says he will spend another $10 million pursuing recreational mar in retribution...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 11:28 AM EST
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That's so weird... According to my doctor at Kaiser, he was not at all ok with me taking any kind of further processed marijuana... Told me specifically to stay away from oils, waxes, and concentrates... He specifically wanted me to smoke actual pot...
rfenst Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 12:08 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
That's so weird... According to my doctor at Kaiser, he was not at all ok with me taking any kind of further processed marijuana... Told me specifically to stay away from oils, waxes, and concentrates... He specifically wanted me to smoke actual pot...


Is that because oils, waxes and concentrates likely contain solvents and may not contain other canabanoids
ZRX1200 Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 12:37 PM EST
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Make your own butter, no chemicals
bgz Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 12:38 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Is that because oils, waxes and concentrates likely contain solvents and may not contain other canabanoids


No, it's because Opie is a more entertaining patient when he does a bong rip before his appointment.
delta1 Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 1:21 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So 2.5 years ago liberals were psychotic.

Does anyone think they've improved since?

Show of hands, please.







fog

2.5 years ago, cons were behaving similarly regarding everything Obama...go back and check the posts from then...
tailgater Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 2:20 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
It was like that here for awhile too iirc... Silly... But you can grow it and give it away...


Grow it from what?
tailgater Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 2:24 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
fog

2.5 years ago, cons were behaving similarly regarding everything Obama...go back and check the posts from then...


Do you really want to compare?

Today I'm told that I overreact when I call a Trump hater a liberal.

Back then anyone who questioned President Obama was deemed racist.

the level of angst isn't even close.
It's laughable to compare it.
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 2:27 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
That's so weird... According to my doctor at Kaiser, he was not at all ok with me taking any kind of further processed marijuana... Told me specifically to stay away from oils, waxes, and concentrates... He specifically wanted me to smoke actual pot...

I was distracted when it was on, but there was a local TV thing showing massive amounts of bacteria and contamination on all tested products from legal local distributors.

The fellow who did the testing said he'd never consume anything in any form with those levels.
delta1 Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 4:49 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Do you really want to compare?

Today I'm told that I overreact when I call a Trump hater a liberal.

Back then anyone who questioned President Obama was deemed racist.

the level of angst isn't even close.
It's laughable to compare it.




wouldn't be derogatory if you did only that...obviously you won't go back 2.5 years to read the political discourse here...but just look at your own posts for the past year or so to get a flavor of the vitriolic name calling


I get that this is a place to express opinions, to vent and have some fun, and that is your primary objective, but ... sometimes it feels different when you complain about how cons are described by libs, and yet condemn libs in more extreme ways...

a bully shouldn't expect any quarter...
bgz Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 5:08 PM EST
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How about a nickel?
Brewha Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 6:11 PM EST
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So, I think offensive joke are like liable or slander. If it is actually true than it ok.

So while it might be offensive to some to say that Trump looks like a Cheeto - well, check the pictures...
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Nov 14 2018, 7:07 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
How about a nickel?

nice way to avoid being the subject of the next overbid thread.
tailgater Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Nov 15 2018, 11:43 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
wouldn't be derogatory if you did only that...obviously you won't go back 2.5 years to read the political discourse here...but just look at your own posts for the past year or so to get a flavor of the vitriolic name calling


I get that this is a place to express opinions, to vent and have some fun, and that is your primary objective, but ... sometimes it feels different when you complain about how cons are described by libs, and yet condemn libs in more extreme ways...

a bully shouldn't expect any quarter...


I don't mind it, so no quarter needed.

But calling someone a liberal versus calling them racist? For essentially the same crime (partisan posturing)??

Please.

Come back to discuss this when you have actual ammunition.
tailgater Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Nov 15 2018, 11:44 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
So, I think offensive joke are like liable or slander. If it is actually true than it ok.

So while it might be offensive to some to say that Trump looks like a Cheeto - well, check the pictures...


It's never offensive to discuss the skin color of our President...
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