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I think they just busted 650 criminals for trying to cross da border a couple hundred miles west of Tijuana.. the rush on Tijuana was a distraction apparently...

So you aren't offering asylum any longer?

So you don't think the problem went away because the President actually DID something about it?

You think putting armed troops on the border had no effect?

The caravan filled with "asylum seekers" just vanished or dissipated on their own?

Or are you saying that Soros finally ran out of money to fund them?


With the "asylum seekers" gone, due to any of the above reasons, what would you want Trump to tweet about?

The election is past....I'm surprised anyone is talking about them anymore.....stash them away for 18 months or so and then lets do it again

nope, way off of what I mean. It's your framing the other side incorrectly and then punching holes in a nonexistent opposing view...again.

The question I raised about the caravan turning around or "vanishing" was not to be taken as physical fact, it was making fun of the FAKE ISSUE vanishing. They have not vanished. They have not been "fixed". They are no longer needed by Trump.

Humor. Political satire. Remember, it's the only kind allowed...liberal on conservative.

a problem that doesn't exist can't go away or be fixed, it just never was. He made up the scary part.

They are still coming this way, nothing changed. They may be dwindling, but not due to any action on our part. The truth is that he no longer needs to convince you it's a bunch of big strong young rapists et al anymore...even he hasn't claimed what you are claiming...that he "fixed" it. He just totally dropped it from sight.

Hint: the mid term elections are over. No need to perpetuate the bogeyman stories.

The troops on the border haven't yet met up with one individual from the scary caravan, so they also would not be using their arms. In fact, only one third of the promised amount of troops have even shown up and they are about done with their barbed wire mending, or whatever they were to do. But they have not stopped anyone yet, and hopefully they won't need to either. Net result, no effect needed, no effect had.

where we agree is that there is an issue of stopping illegal entry. I'll be wif ya on that all day long.
But you got snookered by the master if you bought the scary part.

well, yuh, great news. But before the midterms we were fed a big steaming bowl of lies...so glad I wasn't hungry.

Midterms over...magically the buffet has been removed.

he hired an assassin

I heard ZRX1200 GAVE THEM ALL RIDES ( heee heee...
Butt rides) back to Honduras...along with a dirty Sanchez and a stomach dump deposit.

from the article:

"Officials said the groups of illegal immigrants are not believed to be associated with the large caravan of mostly Central American migrants that have prompted the military deployment."


so, yes, as I said above...there really is a caravan headed our way. But Trump has abandoned the false rhetoric of grave danger, panic, and fear because he only used those for the elections.

We will handle any that come our way, business as usual, if they try to enter illegally.

But the part that has "vanished" from discussion is the part that fooled many here...

now he's talking about the Mueller investigation, and does show signs of grave danger, panic and fear...

no worries Frank... They were checking me out so I gave them the look.... they promptly left...

The ol' Stinkeye... works every time

That would turn them on... Not what I was going for...

The caravan childrens... Nobody ever thinks about the caravan childrens...

Something you won't hear on CNN, apparently they've been causing chaos all the way up.

Apparently a couple of them killed someone and got arrested. There's been many complaints of theft and other such crimes.

Also, many have been ungrateful and I guess it's pretty common for central Americans to not like beans... apparently that's what they use to feed their pigs.

I was reading some translated Mexican stuff, so I guess some things might have been mistranslated, but it sounds to me like the general consensus is Mexican citizens don't want them there.

Edit: Also, most of the comments I could see that were in favor of the caravans mentioned the racist gringos.

nearly 2,000 of the Hondurans have made it up to Tijuana, and are being housed in a sports complex there...the locals are protesting their presence, which is ironic because most of the residents of Tijuana are immigrants from elsewhere in Mexico and Central America. The locals are using the same type of invective language Trump used when describing the caravan: invaders, criminals , rapists, murderers...

no rice & beans! mi dio!

anyway, it's certainly easy to believe that there has been and will be some real criminal activities, but it's quite a leap to go from some reports to a wholesale caravan of rapists, drug smugglers, murderers etc to the degree we need 15,000 troops a month before arrival...knowing they can't arrest or shoot anyone. sounds like one third the amount pretty much finished stuff way early, maybe could have been handled less sensationally...but there was an election to fuel the panic flames.

Probably good to install and fix barbed wire, to protect the real border patrol, etc. But that does not an invasion make. Arrest or return anyone trying to enter illegally, maybe send bodies where really needed, to help the beleaguered crew charged with processing the applicants trying to follow the rules getting in. They're getting like 100 a day done now...way too slow.

no...secure the border and let them get in line ... sort out those who truly deserve asylum, and turn the rest away after documenting their desire for entry to mark a place in line, like all those who apply for visas/entry...


True about moving around in one's home country not amounting to immigration, but locals sure have a way of knowing when someone moves in from elsewhere (besides the point)...a large portion of Tijauna's population consists of Guatemalans, Hondurans and others from Central America...

if they got word of the well armed welcoming committee they probably also got word that not one of the well armed committee will be allowed to shoot, or even arrest.

I'm left to assume the fear of getting shot is what made the caravan reverse direction and is your actual argument for why you keep saying the problem has been solved, by Trump, so why would he mention it again?

evidently you also missed the briefing that Trump skipped when the legality and limitations of the armed troops was discussed.

And it further strains credulity that Trump wouldn't be boasting (as if he had a Tripod )for a year if any of your point could have or did happen.

Not to mention that they did not reverse direction...some attrition in their ranks, to be expected and predicted by people like NPR way before Trump went off half c0cked, has and will lessen their numbers.

The caravan actually was and continues to be an issue, just never was and is not anything close to the nonsense that fooled you. And has not been solved, just not a hot talking point/fake news story post election.

On to fake karate chops!

I really do understand those feeling that way.
Just would rather figure out who get in and who doesn't, but I know folks who would like to stop 100% of immigration.

I have a good sense of your politics, never been a problem...so, what's your take on the pre-midterm election bellowing about evil hombres?
did you see it as a tactic to scare voters to get off the couch? has the noise suddenly stopped because it was a sham? or was it accurate?

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Mexicans are racist!! Oh... wait...

Trump sells fear, one of the oldest tricks in the book... and I'm also of the opinion that most people are stupid, and stupid people are more likely to be swayed by fear. Trump's not alone in selling fear though, liberals do it just as much if not more, just the issues are different. The difference is in the method... Trump hard sells it and doesn't even try to mask it.

With that, I've long been of the opinion that we should do more to curb illegal immigration, and Trump is the only president I've seen in my lifetime that actually wants to do something about it. So I can look past the methods if it actually leads to immigration reform.

As for the accuracy, we live in a border state and before Trump they caused all kinds of chaos out here. It seems as if it's tamed a bit since he's been president, though I don't know if it's actually tamed or if the local news organizations don't report on it as much now that Trump is president.

Think about it like this, life is harder in a third world country and people have to be hardened to have any shot at survival. Survival of the fittest is still a thing in third world countries where they don't really have the millennial phenomenon with their participation trophies. So yeah, there's truth to the claims.

I get it.
Thanks

yeah.
so what?

don't tell anyone I said that.