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Humidor uneven
ontrackp Offline
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I have carefully and thorougly seasoned my 100 ct glass top tabletop humidor - but there seems to be a 7 - 10 pt differential between the bottom and top. The shelf has plenty of openings for air that are not covered, I have a humidifier in the bottom (Xicar gel) and a couple of black ice sections ones on top. Top is at 62 - 65 bottom is around 70 or even goes to 72. Any thoughts?
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
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Turn it upside down every other day... Mellow
99cobra2881 Offline
#3 Posted:
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Humid air rises
KingoftheCove Offline
#4 Posted:
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What is the difference in height?
12 inches? More? Less?
How are you getting these readings? Two separate hygrometers?

For a 100ct glass top wood humi?
I'd simply throw four, 60gm, 65RH Boveda packs in there, put in your cigars, and call it good.
dstieger Offline
#5 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Turn it upside down every other day... Mellow

Perfect
tonygraz Offline
#6 Posted:
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Put the bottom humidifier on top and the top humidifier on the bottom, Also put the cigars in the bottom on top and the cigars on top in the bottom. An alternative is to take the tray out and turn the humidor upside down every other day as Drafter suggested. Get back to us if you still have wet bottom problems.
Mandoman Offline
#7 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Turn it upside down every other day... Mellow

Rotisserie attachment
ontrackp Offline
#8 Posted:
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Thanks -- having consulted the internet, I've learned both that humid air rises and that humid air sinks. Someone should manufacture a rotisserie humidor. I'll keep trying to switch around the humidifiers -- have tried a few different configurations, or maybe just get rid of the tray on top, it seems obvious that would create a barrier.
jespear Offline
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FANS !
Get some fans to circulate the air ! ThumpUp
RMAN4443 Offline
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I've been told that wrapping each cigar individually in a lettuce leaf works....just don't use Romaine until they get the salmonella problems worked out....Anxious
tonygraz Offline
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I heard that Drafter grows his own. If you ask him nice he may send you a few plants.
Whistlebritches Offline
#12 Posted:
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If the humi is empty then fill it.Once cigars are in place most of your issues with humidity variances will disappear.An empty humidor is next to impossible to stabilize.
Ewok126 Offline
#13 Posted:
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Easy fix here!

1. Rotate your cigars on occasion
2. Quit being so intense on such a little difference in the two readings for a small humidor. If you where dealing with a 5 foot cabinet then you could add fans.

Just my OP. Good luck.
SteveS Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
Quit being so intense on such a little difference in the two readings for a small humidor. If you where dealing with a 5 foot cabinet then you could add fans.
Just my OP. Good luck.


It's also my opinion ... the "problem" here just isn't a problem ...
ontrackp Offline
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Great. I'm still new at trying to figure all this out and I appreciate the last two comments. Problem not really a problem is awesome. Thank you......
Ewok126 Offline
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ontrackp wrote:
Great. I'm still new at trying to figure all this out and I appreciate the last two comments. Problem not really a problem is awesome. Thank you......


Any time, I am fairly new at it myself about a year of experience or rather a year of teachings from the fellows here, In listening to the old timers here I was able to cut my worries out all together, reduce the trying to "Micromanage", learned to enjoy the hobby of cigars, and most of all! I learned that most of what you seem to find on the internet is just a bunch of chit from phuggers that just like to talk with their pinky out. Ex: videos, people lip smacking and slobbering all over themselves talking about how they taste molasses along with some more lip smacking and slobbering, followed with how they also taste Daisy flowers and moms meatloaf with a hint of lady bug chit form 1970 etc etc... According to most finds on the net prime relative humidity is 72. BS I say, for me I like lower levels and I am talking in the mid 50's. So with my cabinet which is 5 foot tall range can be from 55 in the bottom to 69 in the top. On occasion I just rotate shelves and forget about it. No fuss, No Muss, and Enjoy Enjoy Enjoy. I could add fans but why waste the money and time when that cash can go to more cigars. When a hobby gets to be more like work then it is not an enjoyable thing for me. Again just my OP. If I have to micromanage something I would prefer it being with my meds that keep me alive, not my hobby. Good luck with it all and don't be afraid to ask. Granted expect some razzing for asking but its all in fun.Beer
ontrackp Offline
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Thanks -- I like hearing from the wise guys here -- some are actually wise -- not sure if they others are actually guys.......
victor809 Offline
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... trust me this is the internet. Usually even the ones saying they're women are probably guys.
Ewok126 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
... trust me this is the internet. Usually even the ones saying they're women are probably guys.



+1

I mean hell, look at me I am an Ewok. I am still trying to decide my gender but that is only because I cant find it in all this fur and I lost my birth certificate years ago. If only I was like Frankie Tripod. Now, we do live in an age to where we have went past the "You can be what every you want"( Astonaught, Fireman, Dr etc) to "You can be what ever gender you want...." (Only requirement is you have to say so, get into huge stupid arguments over it and phug the Birth Certificate along with what tools you carry.)

I blame millennials ! Anxious Well, Minus Yaro. He is a somewhat smart millennial. whip Well, not to sure he is a HE and I have not found no one yet willing to step up and say for a fact that he is a he. I think they are afraid we will ask how they know for a fact Blink . but yeah, you get my meaning. Think
Mandoman Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
+1

I mean hell, look at me I am an Ewok. I am still trying to decide my gender but that is only because I cant find it in all this fur and I lost my birth certificate years ago. If only I was like Frankie Tripod. Now, we do live in an age to where we have went past the "You can be what every you want"( Astonaught, Fireman, Dr etc) to "You can be what ever gender you want...." (Only requirement is you have to say so, get into huge stupid arguments over it and phug the Birth Certificate along with what tools you carry.)

I blame millennials ! Anxious Well, Minus Yaro. He is a somewhat smart millennial. whip Well, not to sure he is a HE and I have not found no one yet willing to step up and say for a fact that he is a he. I think they are afraid we will ask how they know for a fact Blink . but yeah, you get my meaning. Think

Think Think If you can't find it, let Shewok search fur you.
Ewok126 Offline
#21 Posted:
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Mandoman wrote:
Think Think If you can't find it, let Shewok search fur you.



Its gotten to where I cant afford her much no more, she charges way to much!Anxious
Mandoman Offline
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BigGrin
Ewok126 wrote:
Its gotten to where I cant afford her much no more, she charges way to much!Anxious

I've met you both and I can understand why.
Hope to see you both in Mississippi
Ewok126 Offline
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Mandoman wrote:
BigGrin
I've met you both and I can understand why.
Hope to see you both in Mississippi



Ok now what are you really trying to say? I am so ugly she should charge more or that she looks like a high dollar whore? I am going to tell her what you said! LMAOOOO.

Man I do hope we can make it. I really need to get out of this chit hole a while and be around good people for a bit. Last year done her and I a lot of good. This year things are looking real tight. New Docs, more test, more meds etc, you know life chit. She has been pulling 7 days a week for over a few months now to make ends meet because of her crippled ass old man which is a huge kick in the nads ego wise, Blah Blah Blah... I wont bother her with my stupid chit of getting out of this house for a few hours because she would have to drive me and she is working to damn hard all the time so I wont wake her up for my stupid chit.

You know brother it is amazing how having good company around you helps keep the mind right. Meh, I am just in one of those phugged up moods I guess. These walls are getting pretty tight and its eating at me a little but it is what it is. Beer
Mandoman Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
Ok now what are you really trying to say? I am so ugly she should charge more or that she looks like a high dollar whore? I am going to tell her what you said! LMAOOOO

🤔 Uh, uh, both? 😆

ontrackp Offline
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Ewok -- I think I saw a pic of you on a news report about furry conventions?
Ewok126 Offline
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Mandoman wrote:
🤔 Uh, uh, both? 😆




Man I cant win for freaking loosing!

I told on you and she snapped right back with, Well, I ain't no cheap biatch, and you are a little fat. WTF, I mean REALLY WTF! Brick wall
Ewok126 Offline
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ontrackp wrote:
Ewok -- I think I saw a pic of you on a news report about furry conventions?



Naw man, that was not me. It is a case of mistaken identity, I have a very familiar face! Blink
rumraider Offline
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Ewok is right ....mine usually runs under 60 and it gives me a good burn on the cigar and none on the peepee
Ewok126 Offline
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rumraider wrote:
Ewok is right ....mine usually runs under 60 and it gives me a good burn on the cigar and none on the peepee



He said on the peepee........ Blink Blink Blink LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
RMAN4443 Offline
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rumraider wrote:
Ewok is right ....mine usually runs under 60 and it gives me a good burn on the cigar and none on the peepee

Why would you want to burn the Pee Pee....good Player Pianos are hard to find...Anxious
Ewok126 Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Why would you want to burn the Pee Pee....good Player Pianos are hard to find...Anxious



And here it was I just thought he liked cold wieners. I guess I can stop rubbing mine with this ice cube. Rumraider, you can put your teeth back in. Brick wall
Mandoman Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
Man I cant win for freaking loosing!

I told on you and she snapped right back with, Well, I ain't no cheap biatch, and you are a little fat. WTF, I mean REALLY WTF! Brick wall

Hmmm, chunky maybe - not fat. As to cheap, of course not! That's why I'm saving my quarters.
😉
Mandoman Offline
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Apologies to ontrackp, sorry for the threadjack. It seems this thread wandered off the reservation somewhere around the 5th post.
ontrackp Offline
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No worries. The conversation actually got more fun. Back to where we started, I've figured out that my humidor is holding steady at around 62 on the top and 68-70 on the bottom. So I've stopped thinking about it. I have a tupperware container with some Boveda 72's for longer term storage - only opening that to check the boveda packs now and then. This is a fascinating hobby, and I am tasting a big difference on the cigars that have had a chance to rest or a few months.
Ewok126 Offline
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Yep it makes a huge difference I think not only in the taste but in the performance as well. I was having a lot of issues with burn when I kept mine up in the mid 60s to 72. I had went down to mid to high 50s due to some advice from here to give it a go so I did. If I remember correctly, a discussion on humidity lvls had started on here at that time as well. A lot of the fellows here had stated in that discussion that they keep their humidity low in the 50's as well. Any how, sure as chit, once my humidor stabilized, my burn problems went out the door and my stogies tasted great. I have been at round about those lvls ever since.



Mandoman wrote:
Hmmm, chunky maybe - not fat. As to cheap, of course not! That's why I'm saving my quarters.
😉


Bwahahahaha!

I am chunky due to necessity! As my daddy taught me, A mans shed has to be large enough to park his ride under!

I hate to brake it to you brother, but this info comes from many years of experience with the shewok.

1) She does not take change lmaooooo.
2) What she does take has to have a president on it that was born in 1837
3) I am down to my last 20 of those so that means I can only hire her 2 more times for services rendered.

I am thinking about starting up a Go Fund Me page. I think it has merit. Anxious
Arrow_34 Offline
#36 Posted:
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If you rotate your stock it will be fine or you can get a cigar oasis if you have the space. I wish they had a cheap battery powered/timed fan to circulate the air around :) Ok I stand corrected, there is one....

Xikar Purotemp Humifan Air Circulator
opelmanta1900 Offline
#37 Posted:
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Freeze or glade makes a battery powered fan... Used one when I kept a coolidor...
dstieger Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Freeze or glade makes a battery powered fan... Used one when I kept a coolidor...


They used to be all over ebay, but I haven't seen any in years. There's some pics on the interwebs of a cpu fan wired for a 9V battery. If it works and the battery lasts more than a few weeks, it seems like a good idea.
dstieger Offline
#39 Posted:
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There's still some Oust fans on ebay now....they're asking 20-50 bucks...lol
opelmanta1900 Offline
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I'm gonna go find my old one and sell it...
Arrow_34 Offline
#41 Posted:
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Also another option if you have a cpu or case fan laying around.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D4XP6I0/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1

dstieger Offline
#42 Posted:
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Would work, but you need to pass cord through humi/cooler wall/lid somehow....and have your storage close to an outlet....I do like not having to change batteries, however
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