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Phil222 Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 4:20 PM EST
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"The Senate passed a resolution Thursday to withdraw U.S. support for Saudi-backed forces at war in Yemen in a rare bipartisan rebuke to President Donald Trump."

"The resolution, led by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Mike Lee (R-Utah) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), invokes the War Powers Act and passed in a 56-41 vote. It’s the first time the Senate has voted to withdraw forces from a war Congress didn't approve..."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/13/senate-defies-trump-in-saudi-arabia-vote-1062972
dstieger Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 4:25 PM EST
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Wow. I wouldn't have guessed that anyone in the Capitol other than Rand Paul had ever heard of the War Powers Act. Maybe now that the cat's out of the bag, we can get the hell out of Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan
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#3 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 4:27 PM EST
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Checks and balances.
Gasp.
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 5:12 PM EST
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BI PARTISAN.

bigger gasp
victor809 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 5:42 PM EST
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BI SEXUAL.

biggest gasp


(Wrong thread?)
delta1 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 5:53 PM EST
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Buy Bonds...last gasp?
delta1 Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 5:55 PM EST
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Trump is prolly feeling like this Presidency thing has turned a corner, from Hard Street onto WTF alley...
Abrignac Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 8:47 PM EST
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Phil222 wrote:
"The Senate passed a resolution Thursday to withdraw U.S. support for Saudi-backed forces at war in Yemen in a rare bipartisan rebuke to President Donald Trump."

"The resolution, led by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Mike Lee (R-Utah) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), invokes the War Powers Act and passed in a 56-41 vote. It’s the first time the Senate has voted to withdraw forces from a war Congress didn't approve..."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/13/senate-defies-trump-in-saudi-arabia-vote-1062972


Bi-partisan? I’d think it would be more accurate to say 7 Republicans joined the entire Democratic caucus in passing the resolution. Hardly bipartisan. That said, they exercised their responsibility to legislate which is laudable.
delta1 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Dec 13 2018, 10:38 PM EST
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it's good start, especially considering it is about one of the most important Constitutional powers granted to the Congress, to declare war. This is important as a check and balance to an executive who may believe endless war is necessary...

In today's polarized political world, this is bipartisanship.
Phil222 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Dec 14 2018, 1:11 AM EST
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Bernie Sanders and Mike Lee? Hard to get more bipartisan than that. Cool
DrafterX Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Dec 14 2018, 8:55 AM EST
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Bernie is still alive..?? Huh
RMAN4443 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Dec 14 2018, 9:50 AM EST
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kinda...Anxious
Mr. Jones Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Dec 14 2018, 10:22 AM EST
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Bwwwurrrr-neeeeee
dstieger Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Dec 14 2018, 1:27 PM EST
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One step forward and two steps back.....

The other chamber must have feared that a well-received bipartisan measure might be too much for us to handle.....in an effort to make sure that Congressional approval rating stays in the single digits....Ryan and company slipped something in the DOMESTIC FARM BILL that prevents the House from taking up the Senate bill on Yemen....REALLY??? WTF? I'm still something of a Ryan fan, but WTF?
delta1 Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Dec 14 2018, 1:32 PM EST
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O geez...gotta wait a month on this one then...but if the bill dies in the House before the Dems are seated, does the Senate have to do it again? if so, hope the Senate still has the will then...
Phil222 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Dec 14 2018, 2:05 PM EST
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I think five Democrats jumped on board for that one. Haha! Maybe with a Dem majority House there will be a different outcome when they revisit this one. Even if they get something through, there is always the chance of a Trump veto...
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#17 Posted: Sun, Dec 16 2018, 11:48 AM EST
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Good. Hopefully this story gains traction in the media and popular opinion will force some serious changes to our Saudi Arabia policy. What's happening in Yemen is straight up genocide.
dstieger Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Dec 20 2018, 1:22 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Wow. I wouldn't have guessed that anyone in the Capitol other than Rand Paul had ever heard of the War Powers Act. Maybe now that the cat's out of the bag, we can get the hell out of Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan



Two down....two to go....well, maybe more than two....I suspect we're in a lot more countries (esp in Africa) than I realize
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Dec 20 2018, 1:25 PM EST
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I heard the troops are coming home to build da wall... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Dec 20 2018, 1:37 PM EST
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while being paid in pesos...
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Dec 20 2018, 2:27 PM EST
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Sounds like they need more funding... Mellow
Phil222 Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Dec 21 2018, 4:46 PM EST
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According to warmongers and most of the MSM, if a person doesn’t support endless illegal-wars, they’re a Putin-puppet. I knew that I liked stroganoff, but this explains so much.

Someone let me know when these wars get Congressional approval.
dstieger Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Dec 27 2018, 1:20 PM EST
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@realDonaldTrump

Saudi Arabia has now agreed to spend the necessary money needed to help rebuild Syria, instead of the United States. See? Isn’t it nice when immensely wealthy countries help rebuild their neighbors rather than a Great Country, the U.S., that is 5000 miles away. Thanks to Saudi A!
12:23 PM - Dec 24, 2018
An official at the Saudi embassy in Washington told CNBC that the kingdom has not made any major new financial pledge to Syria since August. That is when the State Department announced that Saudi Arabia had committed $100 million to a fund to stabilize areas of Syria liberated from ISIS militants by a U.S.-led coalition.
Dec 26, 2018
delta1 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Dec 27 2018, 2:17 PM EST
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d'oh...
delta1 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Dec 28 2018, 6:06 PM EST
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I'm guessing the Senate will revisit in 2019, once the Dems are seated as the majority in the House...Trump may even sign it, since he's well aware of the Constitution and Congress' authority...
Phil222 Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Jan 4 2019, 8:52 PM EST
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Veteran NBC/MSNBC Journalist Blasts the Network for Being Captive to the National Security State and Reflexively Pro-War to Stop Trump.

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/03/veteran-nbcmsnbc-journalist-blasts-the-network-for-being-captive-to-the-national-security-state-and-reflexively-pro-war-to-stop-trump/

Full email from William Arkin, leaving NBC and MSNBC.
https://medium.com/@ggreenwald/full-email-from-william-arkin-leaving-nbc-and-msnbc-1fb0d1dc692b
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