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victor809 Offline
#51 Posted:
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Awww... Poor little z is upset that the Indian didn't pick on the black religious hate group instead picked on the white religious Nazis...

I honestly don't care which of the hate groups he picked on by banging a drum and chanting.

Apparently you have a preference.
ZRX1200 Offline
#52 Posted:
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I’m not upset, I’m once again let down expecting a sliver of intelligence from you. I’ll keep trying.......
victor809 Offline
#53 Posted:
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Oooh there's a good example of irony right there.
ZRX1200 Offline
#54 Posted:
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Everything you post is full of irony.

I figured maybe at your level you thought it was a vitamin and wanted to make sure you got your daily allowance.
victor809 Offline
#55 Posted:
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Wow that was weak.
ZRX1200 Offline
#56 Posted:
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Im trying to make this easy for you but there’s not a crayon font
victor809 Offline
#57 Posted:
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...and anything other than crayon is difficult to scrawl in for a sufferer of Klippel-Feil such as yourself.

But maybe your time is better spent in front of a TV screen.
ZRX1200 Offline
#58 Posted:
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You have an unhealthy obsession with checking dudes out.....
Yeah you got me, been sitting in front of the tv all night, you nailed that buddy good on ya!
dstieger Offline
#59 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:

He's the one who had his folks' early video versions thrust into the social media vortex.

I apologize. Looks like I need to walk this one back. I still think that the video may have been taken by Phillips' guys, the social media explosion (and the following media explosion) looks to have been the work of far more nefarious orgs. Suspicious Twitter accounts that posted and retweeted the first video into infamy. Still lots to learn about this event, but I sure hope that the overriding message that everyone takes away has nothing to do with the kid, the Native American, the Black Hebrew Israelites, MAGA, the mainstream media......I hope everyone unites to understand and beat down dark operations that only work to make us all more antagonistic and divisive
DrafterX Offline
#60 Posted:
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Head about some attorney giving so called reporters, celebrities and social media dudes 48 hours to apologize or be sued... He plans to be in court next week.. Mellow
Abrignac Offline
#61 Posted:
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When one reverts to name calling it makes them appear foolish.
ZRX1200 Offline
#62 Posted:
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Whatever poopypants
victor809 Offline
#63 Posted:
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Kinda agree with z here... Your pants are very poopy.
Speyside Offline
#64 Posted:
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Careful Victor, Z. He may call/email the monitors and say Victor and Z don't play well, they need a time out. That's what rats do.
dstieger Offline
#65 Posted:
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Headlines about NBC interview with MAGA kid (which I haven't watched yet) said left and right were all up in arms. Probably meant it was a good interview
delta1 Offline
#66 Posted:
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one's world view can distort reality...lotta stuff going on there...before the face-to-face confrontation...the real agitators were the Black Hebrew Isrealites spewing hateful stuff at the group of white students wearing MAGA hats...

why didn't the kid go face to face with any of them...that would've made him seem more believable and sympathetic...
Phil222 Offline
#67 Posted:
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It's too bad the Standing Rock DAPL protests didn't get this kind of news coverage. They probably needed MAGA hats.
RMAN4443 Offline
#68 Posted:
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from what I saw, the kid didn't go face to face with anyone....the Indian protester brought his face, and his drum, into the kids face....the kid just maintained "his space" and didn't let the beating drum in his face intimidate him....I think he showed incredible restraint...Not sure I would have shown the same restraint if someone invaded my space and was swinging what could be used as a weapon in my face...ram27bat
Chit, victor kicks the homeless for being homeless...how would he treat them if they got in his face swinging a stick at him????

Seems like the real issue is the kid's fashion choices, his hat seems to have everyone all riled upNot talking
I gotta get me one of those hats
ZRX1200 Offline
#69 Posted:
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Al the kid was waiting for a bus, and if you listen you can hear them booing the black bigots when they denounce homosexuality and call them school shooters and one a N****r........

YOU support 16 year olds confronting crazy grown ass men?

The hippie drummer and the black bigots should have set a better example.

Phil, that’s friggin funny.

Spey, he probably would have texted Victor or I seeings how he has our numbers. How do you think Vicky and I know he has poopypants?
frankj1 Offline
#70 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
I apologize. Looks like I need to walk this one back. I still think that the video may have been taken by Phillips' guys, the social media explosion (and the following media explosion) looks to have been the work of far more nefarious orgs. Suspicious Twitter accounts that posted and retweeted the first video into infamy. Still lots to learn about this event, but I sure hope that the overriding message that everyone takes away has nothing to do with the kid, the Native American, the Black Hebrew Israelites, MAGA, the mainstream media......I hope everyone unites to understand and beat down dark operations that only work to make us all more antagonistic and divisive

Russians
DrafterX Offline
#71 Posted:
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I thought Putin wore a MAGA hat... Think
dstieger Offline
#72 Posted:
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He's got a big head. He can wear a MAGA hat and a pink ***** hat at same time.
DrafterX Offline
#73 Posted:
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I heard some woman in California is accusing the MAGA hat Dudes of dry-humping her at a party one night.... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#74 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I haven't kept up with his narrative much.
But given that the first "narrative" and video wasn't his... It was some 3rd party just using his image/presence... I'm not surprised there is some shift... I think it wasn't until a day later that people got his statement.

But in the end... He didn't really do anything. One can complain about the black Israelites, or the maga Nazis... But what action did the Indian take that one should criticize?



The original story stemmed from the indian dude.
He told the media that he was trying to diffuse a situation that was getting too tense, and he did blame the MAGA teens.

He blatantly lied, and then backtrcked just a little when called to task. With video proof, no less.

Question:
You see a situation that might get out of hand.
You want to diffuse it.
Do you approach the "unruly" gang of teens?
or the "innocent" group of adults?

Chief Lies a Lot is a deadbeat liberal who saw the hats and wanted to blame them to get his 15 minutes.

F*ck him.
F*ck him AND Di Niro.



tailgater Offline
#75 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
He's the one who inserted himself in front of the teen.
He's the one who was the 'aggrieved' party and the focus of all early 'news'. Thus, he was immediately put on air and in print with the 'authoritative' story. Fact is, his own version varied greatly every time in he opened his mouth.
He's the one who had his folks' early video versions thrust into the social media vortex.
He could easily be shown to have been as big an instigator as anyone in this fiasco. The fact that he is Indian, veteran, elder....all make him rather untouchable, regardless of anything else


Not even sure why he was there.
He didn't have a reservation...


tailgater Offline
#76 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Awww... Poor little z is upset that the Indian didn't pick on the black religious hate group instead picked on the white religious Nazis...

I honestly don't care which of the hate groups he picked on by banging a drum and chanting.

Apparently you have a preference.


I don't want to impede on your love fest with Z, but this response makes one wonder if you even read his posts before you reply.
tailgater Offline
#77 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:

How do you think Vicky and I know he has poopypants?


I really didn't want to think about that.


tailgater Offline
#78 Posted:
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Here's the truth of the matter.

A rally was held for Pro life.

At some point after the rally, a group of lowlife scum known as the Black Hebrew Israelites were being verbally aggressive towards a group of teens.
I assume it became a give and take, but no evidence supports that. Only that the BHI were calling them f&ggots and N*gger and other words not typically used by "a group of adults".

Some drunk Indian (redundant) stumbles into the mix and chooses to confront the teens. Then have it video taped. Then send to the media.

Because of their choice in head wear, the media slurped it up. And asked for (sloppy) seconds.
But sloppy they were, and they weren't prepared to handle the truth.

Even now. In the light of day with the full 20/20 vision of hindsight, too many liberals are trying to twist it around and blame the kids.

Because of their hats.

Because of, well, Trump.

But TDS isn't real.
Nope.
Nothing to see here.


delta1 Offline
#79 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Al the kid was waiting for a bus, and if you listen you can hear them booing the black bigots when they denounce homosexuality and call them school shooters and one a N****r........

YOU support 16 year olds confronting crazy grown ass men?

The hippie drummer and the black bigots should have set a better example.

Phil, that’s friggin funny.

Spey, he probably would have texted Victor or I seeings how he has our numbers. How do you think Vicky and I know he has poopypants?


yep, the black bigots were the instigators here, and witnesses said the group of school kids responded to their racist crap, yelling back at them...

and the kid did confront a grown azz man, just one who wasn't threatening...I didn't see any video of how that face-to-face came about...so I don't know whose story to believe: the kid's or the Native American's...you've made a choice to back the kid's...why?

the "hippie drummer" has a legitimate gripe, the same as the kids who were there for the Pro Life March and was just banging a drum, not exactly a threatening or violent act...

MAGA hats have come to symbolize a dark side of America, in the view of a lot of people, many poor and minority...in effect, they say to people who were oppressed in the past that the wearer thinks America was great then...

should the chaperones from the school have done a better job? Would you want your own child to attend a political rally in today's divisive political arena, where violence is just one epithet away?
victor809 Offline
#80 Posted:
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A group of people wearing MAGA hats to me is not a significant difference from a group of people wearing swastikas. It is their right to wear it, but it's also our right to make assumptions about them based on their clothing.

My point is, tail... In your little story, you choose to call these "teens" as if they are some innocent children. They are modern America's version of Nazi youth.
DrafterX Offline
#81 Posted:
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I'm sure the next Democrat President will make America great again.. and we don't even know who he, she or it is yet... All we know for sure is Trump can't do it right..?? Mellow
victor809 Offline
#82 Posted:
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Why would you ever assume that?
Just because we have an idiot in the white house and Nazis running around in magawear... That doesn't mean we want to ever go backwards.

The "again" part of any of those slogans is a problematic term which implies a better time previously.

Any previous time is likely to find that someone (usually not the group that wants to go back) is being s**t on to make things so great for the other groups.

Going backwards is for idiots and people who peaked in high school.
victor809 Offline
#83 Posted:
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Sorry... That last sentence was a little redundant.
DrafterX Offline
#84 Posted:
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Ya.. I was being sarcastic btw.. Mellow
tailgater Offline
#85 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
A group of people wearing MAGA hats to me is not a significant difference from a group of people wearing swastikas. It is their right to wear it, but it's also our right to make assumptions about them based on their clothing.

My point is, tail... In your little story, you choose to call these "teens" as if they are some innocent children. They are modern America's version of Nazi youth.




If those black hebrew israelites were chanting "f&ggot" to your rugby crew, would you take their side as well?

No need to answer, but consider what actually took place without dwelling on the hats that drove the media to the circus and you to your conclusions.


ZRX1200 Offline
#86 Posted:
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Al......I watched an hour and 14 mins of video because of the vile spite I was seeing against kids and I was curious. If you had watched the video you would have seen an older GENTLEMAN and an emotional young woman confronting the black bigots. The kids went over (a few of them not all) to see what was going on.

As that situation was being diffused by the gentleman, the bigots started barking at the Native people walking PAST the kids (not through them) and at the kids. That’s when the bigots started saying really nasty things and the kids BOOED them. BOOED them for being racist homophobes.......something I’m sure would be roundly cheered by many of the whipped up mob we have that we are to easily swayed by a snipet of the larger video that fit their personal bias.

That’s when the hippie drummer made his play for 15 mins of fame. After seeing his CNN interview it’s obvious he has a bias against MAGA that was of more importance than those kids. And FYI he was walked straight up to that kid and was banging that drum closer than he had any business doing. It was provocative and aggressive and if you don’t see that watching the whole video than you are lost.

This is upsetting because it is a perfect example of our country today. And I can say that and someone who’s far left will call me a blind trumpster without batting an eye not knowing my actua beliefs. There’s a larger picture here. This sort of propaganda is exactly the type of thing that builds to a very dark place and it should be condemned. This is nothing like Cheeto taking liberties with truth, which with great irony is exactly what Vicky does. If trump SAYS something he said it......when the media does it it is entirely something else. They are quick to call Trump unpresidential, while they are being everything they aren’t supposed to be. Only they’ve been doing it a lot longer, and to much more detriment than he will ever do.
victor809 Offline
#87 Posted:
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Tail. Where have I taken the black Israelites side? Reading comprehension. I called them on numerous occasions a religious hate group.

Jesus fking Christ you are dense. The religious hate group yelling terrible s**t is what they do.

Actually. Nevermind. I'm fine with the whole thing. I just realized my problem. I was expecting the Nazi youth to not act like a religious hate group.

We're fine. The Nazis and the black Israelites both acted exactly as expected. I am no longer shocked or surprised, because they're both religious hate groups.
victor809 Offline
#88 Posted:
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Z... Those little Nazi youth made a choice to wear their maga hats. They we're little Nazis before the confrontation they had with the women... Before their confrontation with the black Israelites... Before one of them yelled "it's not rape if you enjoy it"...

If a dude wearing a swastika saves a kitten from a burning building, it's still "local Nazi saved kitten from burning building"... They labeled themselves before they even got into any of this crap.
delta1 Offline
#89 Posted:
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I watched a couple of longer videos...very few winners, except the gentleman and lady who actually engaged the racist black isrealites...

the large group of kids (75-100+?) exchanged insults with the small group (5-6?) of blacks...one white kid took off his shirt and did a dance, bouncing up and down while bending at the waist, waving his arms...resembling an ape, leading many of the students to mimic his ape-like dance...loud chants (possibly ape-like whoops?)developed among the group of students, who seemed to be having a good time exchanging insults with the blacks...most of the group of kids were all staring at the small group of blacks, who continued to shout derogatorily at the kids...

then the Native group walked up, banging their drums...the black racists actually seemed to welcome their appearance, with one of them clearly yelling at the kids, "you better not touch them" ... video shows the elder one walking into the group, banging his drum...a couple of minutes later, another Native American joins him and breaks the face to face encounter while engaging in conversations with some of the kids...unable to make out clearly what was being said, though...


edit: Phillips should not have walked into the crowd of kids...given the tensions of the moment, that could've been interpreted as provocative...
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#90 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Z... Those little Nazi youth made a choice to wear their maga hats. They we're little Nazis before the confrontation they had with the women... Before their confrontation with the black Israelites... Before one of them yelled "it's not rape if you enjoy it"...

If a dude wearing a swastika saves a kitten from a burning building, it's still "local Nazi saved kitten from burning building"... They labeled themselves before they even got into any of this crap.




Vicki,

You never cease to amaze me with your blind hatred. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised. They had you at MAGA hats. Do you have children? Do you remember what it was like to be a child? That you can even equate the children’s behavior so as not to provoke intimidation tactics used by the ADULT Native Americans and shouting their school chant to drown out the venomous epithets that were spewed out against CHILDREN by the Hebrew Israelites to Nazi behaviors is incredibly ignorant. Behaviors are not even close—not even on the same planet. If you studied history, go back and re-read. If you are clairvoyant and can read what was in that child’s mind, God has given you a great gift. I seriously doubt that though.

I recommend you immediately change your avatar because you have become one of the individuals you abhor.

Grow up! See things as they are not through your “jaded Trump” lenses.
tailgater Offline
#91 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Tail. Where have I taken the black Israelites side? Reading comprehension. I called them on numerous occasions a religious hate group.

Jesus fking Christ you are dense. The religious hate group yelling terrible s**t is what they do.

Actually. Nevermind. I'm fine with the whole thing. I just realized my problem. I was expecting the Nazi youth to not act like a religious hate group.

We're fine. The Nazis and the black Israelites both acted exactly as expected. I am no longer shocked or surprised, because they're both religious hate groups.


So if your gay rugby friends reacted the same as the high school teens, you'd call them a hate group?

That doesn't jibe with your original complaint about your gay rugby friends being b*tch slapped BECAUSE of a hate crime.

In fact, it's the exact opposite.

You try to come off as smart, but you're dumb as a stump.
With apologies to said stump.

But not your fault.
I blame the media.
You might call them your conscience.
Subconsciously, of course.




tailgater Offline
#92 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:



edit: Phillips should not have walked into the crowd of kids...given the tensions of the moment, that could've been interpreted as provocative...



I read more about Phillips.

Dude lied about being in Nam.

Friggin low life scum of the earth.


ZRX1200 Offline
#93 Posted:
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In the interview I saw he said “Vietnam era veteran” I never read him saying he served in country.
ZRX1200 Offline
#94 Posted:
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https://youtu.be/CIXIzvyAlLA
victor809 Offline
#95 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
If those black hebrew israelites were chanting "f&ggot" to your rugby crew, would you take their side as well?

No need to answer, but consider what actually took place without dwelling on the hats that drove the media to the circus and you to your conclusions.




Where did I take the black israelites side?
You are only focusing on them because they're the only group that makes the nazi youth look good.

You always like to decide what other people's stance is, makes it easier for you to argue against it.
victor809 Offline
#96 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
So if your gay rugby friends reacted the same as the high school teens, you'd call them a hate group?

That doesn't jibe with your original complaint about your gay rugby friends being b*tch slapped BECAUSE of a hate crime.

In fact, it's the exact opposite.

You try to come off as smart, but you're dumb as a stump.
With apologies to said stump.

But not your fault.
I blame the media.
You might call them your conscience.
Subconsciously, of course.





You are equating people wearing public symbols of support of a person who has at various times made statements or actual actions which are anti women, anti LGBT, anti muslim, anti black and practically every other group.... symbols which are as close as you can possibly get to a swastika without actually wearing a swastika.... to gay people minding their own business.

That's your f-king problem tail. You don't understand at all the difference between choosing to announce to the world that you're a ******, and have the world respond.... and people simply trying to get by.

If these dumb nazis were not wearing the modern equivalent of nazi propaganda, and just sitting around minding their business, not yelling "slut" at women... then I may give a f-k that other groups yelled at them.. .

And no, I don't support what the black israelites yelled. They should have stuck to yelling simple non-homophobic or non-racist insults. But again, I don't give much of a f-k what two hate groups are yelling at each other or doing before the incident.
victor809 Offline
#97 Posted:
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Burner02 wrote:
Vicki,

You never cease to amaze me with your blind hatred. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised. They had you at MAGA hats. Do you have children? Do you remember what it was like to be a child? That you can even equate the children’s behavior so as not to provoke intimidation tactics used by the ADULT Native Americans and shouting their school chant to drown out the venomous epithets that were spewed out against CHILDREN by the Hebrew Israelites to Nazi behaviors is incredibly ignorant. Behaviors are not even close—not even on the same planet. If you studied history, go back and re-read. If you are clairvoyant and can read what was in that child’s mind, God has given you a great gift. I seriously doubt that though.

I recommend you immediately change your avatar because you have become one of the individuals you abhor.

Grow up! See things as they are not through your “jaded Trump” lenses.


Where did I say their chants were nazi behaviors?

They became modern day nazis when they put the MAGA hats on. Their yelling at various people around them (yelling "slut" at women who were not paying attention to them.... yelling "it in't rape if you enjoy it" to some random women, doing some tomahawk chop coincidentally after a native american showed up) is just gravy.
Burner02 Offline
#98 Posted:
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I repeat...........They had you at MAGA hat.

No hate their.
tailgater Offline
#99 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Where did I take the black israelites side?
You are only focusing on them because they're the only group that makes the nazi youth look good.

You always like to decide what other people's stance is, makes it easier for you to argue against it.


Says the guy who calls kids with hats Nazis.

You're a hoot.

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#100 Posted:
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What do you call a person wearing a swastika?
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