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streetrod Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 6:35 PM EST
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First player to be voted unanimously in to the Hall of Fame.
Of course it would be a NY Yankee to do it.ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp
frankj1 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 7:01 PM EST
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though the BoSox gave him a tough time here and there, he's the best.
streetrod Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 7:18 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
though the BoSox gave him a tough time here and there, he's the best.

I was waiting to hear a dig from the massholers. Glad you did not disappoint.
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 7:22 PM EST
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I surprised the writers didn’t screw this one up like they have many others......

He is the greatest closer of all time period. Too bad he was a Schitty Yankee.
KingoftheCove Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 7:27 PM EST
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Some of those writers who vote are real bozos.
There’s been a few others who should have been unanimous imo.
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 7:41 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I surprised the writers didn’t screw this one up like they have many others......

He is the greatest closer of all time period. Too bad he was a Schitty Yankee.

jeepers! I said he was the best.

even the fans in Fenway treated him with respect, and he played along with the mock derision they showed in appearances after losing a previous game to the Sox.

of all the teams he faced, I bet the Sox are up there with the best record of limited success against him...but usually he won out.

That's why he was the best.

EDIT:
quoted the wrong post...this was for #3
KingoftheCove Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 7:48 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
jeepers! I said he was the best.

even the fans in Fenway treated him with respect, and he played along with the mock derision they showed in appearances after losing a previous game to the Sox.

of all the teams he faced, I bet the Sox are up there with the best record of limited success against him...but usually he won out.

That's why he was the best.

EDIT:
quoted the wrong post...this was for #3

Heh heh
Mean, angry Frankie pushing the wrong buttons...
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 8:04 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Heh heh
Mean, angry Frankie pushing the wrong buttons...

what has happened to me?
I used to be so nice...first I beat up a noob, and now this
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jan 22 2019, 8:22 PM EST
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Oh I think the Diamondbacks did ok!
delta1 Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 1:04 PM EST
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a few baseball writers of old were just jealous, mean, vindictive, stuck in the mud old men...several other players were deserving of unanimous votes...
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 1:49 PM EST
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^ yup......


Ken Griffey Jr
Nolan Ryan

Just off the top of my head.
frankj1 Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 2:18 PM EST
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Willie Mays
Babe Ruth
Ted Williams
Hank Aaron
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 2:33 PM EST
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^ yeah I was just going recently.....but agree whole heartily
teedubbya Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 2:55 PM EST
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Robert George Uecker
delta1 Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 3:15 PM EST
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Cal Ripken, Jr
Jackie Robinson
teedubbya Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 3:19 PM EST
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Chico Escuela
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 3:30 PM EST
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bays bow.....bean belly belly goot ...to me...
tailgater Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 5:50 PM EST
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streetrod wrote:
I was waiting to hear a dig from the massholers. Glad you did not disappoint.


Frank Fight!!
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 5:56 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Frank Fight!!



um, I'm a tripod, remember.
Weapons other than "franks" would make it fair.
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 6:11 PM EST
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Jackie Robinson for sure....
jespear Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 6:53 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
what has happened to me?
I used to be so nice...first I beat up a noob, and now this


Your "d i c k" is too big.
Next thing you know, you'll be stuttering !
MACS Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 7:20 PM EST
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streetrod wrote:
I was waiting to hear a dig from the massholers. Glad you did not disappoint.


I saw the post before anyone had commented. I was about to say f*** the yankees, but figured... why bother?

I think Frank's response was measured and respectful.
frankj1 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 7:30 PM EST
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jespear wrote:
Your "d i c k" is too big.
Next thing you know, you'll be stuttering !

I can not overstate how much this made me laugh
frankj1 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 7:31 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
I saw the post before anyone had commented. I was about to say f*** the yankees, but figured... why bother?

I think Frank's response was measured and respectful.

I really tried...
tailgater Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 9:52 PM EST
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You all will have to forgive my friend Streetrod.
He's good peeps AND he's a Yankee's fan. And a Giants fan.
And who knows what other sick fetish he has. Maybe the Rangers or Knicks?
But he's still good peeps.

If a Yankee fan can't try to slap down a Red Sox fan, then what has this world come to??
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Jan 23 2019, 9:59 PM EST
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The Rod needs no defense.


Frankie Tripod
ZRX1200 Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 12:38 AM EST
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Frank is hung like a bull hamster
streetrod Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 8:44 AM EST
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I love it when I can rile the troops. Expecually ones from a certain geographic area.
First off you guys forgot another GOAT who was not on all Ballots...... ‘The Mick’ Oh yeah he just happened to be another Yankee who made the HOF.
Jespear: Now I know why I studder (lol).
TG: yup I am a Ranger, Knick fan. The only reason you say nice things about me is because I send you good cigars.
jespear Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 9:52 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I can not overstate how much this made me laugh


I take it that you are familiar with the joke that I stole that from ?
jespear Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 9:54 AM EST
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streetrod wrote:
I love it when I can rile the troops. Expecually ones from a certain geographic area.
First off you guys forgot another GOAT who was not on all Ballots...... ‘The Mick’ Oh yeah he just happened to be another Yankee who made the HOF.
Jespear: Now I know why I studder (lol).
TG: yup I am a Ranger, Knick fan. The only reason you say nice things about me is because I send you good cigars.



Have you considered surgery to correct your stuttering ?
If you have . . . DON'T DO IT !
I know of a guy who had the surgery, but he has regretted it ever since.
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 11:06 AM EST
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streetrod wrote:
I love it when I can rile the troops. Expecually ones from a certain geographic area.
First off you guys forgot another GOAT who was not on all Ballots...... ‘The Mick’ Oh yeah he just happened to be another Yankee who made the HOF.
Jespear: Now I know why I studder (lol).
TG: yup I am a Ranger, Knick fan. The only reason you say nice things about me is because I send you good cigars.


Not my fault you insist on betting against the Pats.
frankj1 Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 2:01 PM EST
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jespear wrote:
I take it that you are familiar with the joke that I stole that from ?

nope!
and yet i cracked up anyway.
delta1 Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 2:28 PM EST
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yea....Mantle ... and Dimaggio mighta been better...
streetrod Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 4:07 PM EST
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jespear: No f-f-f-fug-g-ging w-w-ay,
TG: one thing, 18 wins 1 GIANT loss
delta1: won’t argue that but won’t agree. Both were great. Only saw Joe D play his last year, although his record speaks for itself. Saw the Mick play about 150 games, grew up about 5 miles from Yankee Stadium.
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 4:49 PM EST
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us FOGs could probably name a 100 who shoulda gone in @100% vote..and our fathers and grandfathers could add to that.
Writers have their evil thoughts...in 1967 one voted for Cesar Tovar for MVP over Yaz!
delta1 Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 4:58 PM EST
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streetrod wrote:
jespear: No f-f-f-fug-g-ging w-w-ay,
TG: one thing, 18 wins 1 GIANT loss
delta1: won’t argue that but won’t agree. Both were great. Only saw Joe D play his last year, although his record speaks for itself. Saw the Mick play about 150 games, grew up about 5 miles from Yankee Stadium.


Mantle was my favorite player (non-Dodger) growing up, especially during the year he and Maris were going after Ruth's record...a real shame that he tore up his knee on an outfield sprinkler early in his career...who knows what he could have done with his wheels intact...

just going by my father's belief that DiMaggio was better...he did score Marilyn, after all, and lost some prime years to WWII...

and Dad said the Duke was just as good as Mantle...I dunno, since I only saw him in decline during his last couple of years, too, while Mantle was in his prime...also saw Mantle in decline, struggling and failing to keep his lifetime BA above .300...
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 5:02 PM EST
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and Mays was better than any of 'em

some pretty good centerfielders in NY back then...and a couple of them who leaked into Cali
delta1 Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 5:13 PM EST
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Mays was one of the few Giants I didn't hate, while growing up a Dodgers fan...
Speyside Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 8:50 PM EST
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Hall of fame is a joke. We can install steroids users, but Pete Rose will never be on a ballot. Which is worse, using illegal drugs, of betting on games?
MACS Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2019, 9:20 PM EST
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Pete Rose should be in, for sure.

I really dislike Barry Bonds, but there is no denying that he was a HoF player even before he started juicing and getting a giant head (from the juice, and from success).

Same for Clemens.
streetrod Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Jan 25 2019, 9:12 AM EST
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We can discuss all day who was the best of the best in the outfield. No matter what, he came from NY.
Yes I am a FOG. Growing up when & where I did & my dad being a big baseball fan, he would take me to all the stadiums in NY.
Besides seeing the Yankees in the old stadium ( before the 70,s remodel)I was fortunate to see the Giants & Mets in The Polo Grounds & the Dodgers in Ebbets Field & also at Jersey City Roosevelt Stadium in around 1956/57 where they played a few games a year.
tailgater Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Jan 25 2019, 9:36 AM EST
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streetrod wrote:
We can discuss all day who was the best of the best in the outfield. No matter what, he came from NY.
Yes I am a FOG. Growing up when & where I did & my dad being a big baseball fan, he would take me to all the stadiums in NY.
Besides seeing the Yankees in the old stadium ( before the 70,s remodel)I was fortunate to see the Giants & Mets in The Polo Grounds & the Dodgers in Ebbets Field & also at Jersey City Roosevelt Stadium in around 1956/57 where they played a few games a year.


I met Frank.
Believe him.
He is a FOG.

And he now has proof of how dashingly handsome I am.

But on point, he's right: The best outfielder likely played in and for NY.

Because the Yankees used to be good.

I snopes'd it.
streetrod Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Jan 25 2019, 10:37 AM EST
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TG: you were doing fine until the part about ‘how dashingly handsome you are’!
The Yanks will be back...... soon.
dstieger Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Jan 25 2019, 10:47 AM EST
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I'm thankful that we still argue about difficulty in getting elected...and rarely about bums that got no business getting in. Keep it hard!
tailgater Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Jan 25 2019, 4:10 PM EST
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streetrod wrote:
TG: you were doing fine until the part about ‘how dashingly handsome you are’!
.


Sorry.
Didn't mean to quote you without permission.
streetrod Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Jan 25 2019, 4:27 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I'm thankful that we still argue about difficulty in getting elected...and rarely about bums that got no business getting in. Keep it hard!

+1
delta1 Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Jan 25 2019, 4:39 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I'm thankful that we still argue about difficulty in getting elected...and rarely about bums that got no business getting in. Keep it hard!


you thinking about Edgar Martinez? Harold Baines? Mike Mussina?

none are HoF caliber, imho...

agree that Rose, Bonds and Clemens should be in...
delta1 Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Jan 25 2019, 4:45 PM EST
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others who are in but not deserving: Bill Mazeroski, Luis Aparicio, Dennis Eckersley, Catfish Hunter and Ron Santo
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