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frankj1 Offline
#51 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2019, 2:35 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
seems Bolton's plan is to help big American business interests, especially big oil, exploit Venezuela...we've gone down that path many times in South America, Central America and the Middle East...mostly with unhappy endings...

were them the good old days that birthed MAGA?
Phil222 Offline
#52 Posted: Mon, Feb 11 2019, 7:24 PM EST
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Hezbollah active in Venezuela: Trish Regan on Fox Business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1bPogl4R9c

This was 10 minutes of pure gold...maybe they have WMDs too?
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#53 Posted: Mon, Feb 11 2019, 7:29 PM EST
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Speaking of oil... How much did we get from Brazil after Obama gave them 10 billion to go get it..?? Think
delta1 Offline
#54 Posted: Tue, Feb 12 2019, 4:44 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Speaking of oil... How much did we get from Brazil after Obama gave them 10 billion to go get it..?? Think


there you go again...

it was only $2 billion, and although Obama signed off on the loan, it was negotiated by GWBush on behalf of the Export-Import Bank of the US...and there was a benefit to US businesses since it committed Petrobas to buy US produced goods and services...

amazing how con myths have such staying power and the ability to sway so many seemingly bright peeps...
DrafterX Offline
#55 Posted: Wed, Feb 13 2019, 2:36 PM EST
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Don't trust Snopes... It was 10 billion... Soros also invested heavily in Petrobas before the loan..
delta1 Offline
#56 Posted: Wed, Feb 13 2019, 3:12 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Don't trust Snopes... It was 10 billion... Soros also invested heavily in Petrobas before the loan..


https://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/bogus-brazilian-oil-claims/



somebody DID provide a $10 billion loan to Brazil, tho...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-petrobras-signs-pact-for-10-billion-in-loans-from-china-1456529796Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted: Wed, Feb 13 2019, 3:35 PM EST
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True.. we initially had 2 billion on the table until China stepped in then we matched it...


And I suppose Obama only gave Iran 1.7 billion right..?? Not talking
delta1 Offline
#58 Posted: Wed, Feb 13 2019, 5:33 PM EST
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no...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/03/17/dispelling-the-petrobras-loan-myth-as-obama-heads-to-rio/#47c04296077c
frankj1 Offline
#59 Posted: Wed, Feb 13 2019, 7:56 PM EST
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X!
Why you subscribing to fake news sources?
DrafterX Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, Feb 14 2019, 7:34 AM EST
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Not me man.... Not talking


However, editing history is prolly even worse.... Mellow
dstieger Offline
#61 Posted: Tue, Feb 19 2019, 10:55 AM EST
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Gotta give Trump credit for a pretty good speech yesterday. He was looking at Maduro, but was talking to anyone who might/should be concerned about socialism creep in US politics. I thought (hope) he was effective. Always helps when he can stay on (teleprompter) message.
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#62 Posted: Tue, Feb 19 2019, 10:58 AM EST
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Pretty sure later today he's gonna say there's good people on both sides...

#telepromptershackles
ZRX1200 Offline
#63 Posted: Sat, Feb 23 2019, 1:36 PM EST
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https://www.americangrit.com/2019/02/22/breaking-maduros-troops-open-fire-on-civilians-at-aid-checkpoint/
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