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Oliva 2nds - What exactly am I bidding on?
bpeyton Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 09-11-2010
Posts: 2
I'm considering purchasing Oliva 2nds on CigarBid and want to be sure I'm bidding on the specific Oliva cigar I'm interested in (i.e. Connecticut Reserve, Saison, MB3, or Serie O/G/V/Melanio). The problem is the specific Oliva cigar is not explicitly indicated for each auction; however, the detailed characteristics are indicated (i.e. profile, wrapper, etc...), which should equate to a specific Oliva cigar. This sound easy enough, but I'm not convinced CigarBid is always accurate with Oliva 2nds detailed characteristics, particularly with regard to profile (strength). Can anybody attest to the accuracy of the detailed characteristics for Oliva 2nds auctions on CigarBid? TIA
KingoftheCove Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 4,954
There maybe be some cheat sheet someone here can give you.
Then again, you can get “Firsts” for darn near the same price if you know where and when to look.
Just look through the Cigar forum a bit...
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 25,914
KingoftheCove wrote:
There maybe be some cheat sheet someone here can give you.
Then again, you can get “Firsts” for darn near the same price if you know where and when to look.
Just look through the Cigar forum a bit...

ya gave the old noob a free pass I see.
KingoftheCove Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 4,954
frankj1 wrote:
ya gave the old noob a free pass I see.

Um...............dats not my job.
I was only on sentry duty when you was working.......ya know........just to give a helpin hand now and again.

But NOW.......you bein all retired and stuff...........we’re expecting YOU to catch these noops, AND to fill in for 500 duties.
We’re just watching out for you to be sure you dont get bored and stuff....
Palama Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 10,809
frankj1 wrote:
ya gave the old noob a free pass I see.


You’re retired now, shouldn’t YOU be more diligent?










Sarcasm


Salmoneye Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 01-18-2011
Posts: 142
So THIS is the guy that has been running up the Oliva 2nds to $10 over where they should be...

frankj1 Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 25,914
bpeyton wrote:
I'm considering purchasing Oliva 2nds on CigarBid and want to be sure I'm bidding on the specific Oliva cigar I'm interested in (i.e. Connecticut Reserve, Saison, MB3, or Serie O/G/V/Melanio). The problem is the specific Oliva cigar is not explicitly indicated for each auction; however, the detailed characteristics are indicated (i.e. profile, wrapper, etc...), which should equate to a specific Oliva cigar. This sound easy enough, but I'm not convinced CigarBid is always accurate with Oliva 2nds detailed characteristics, particularly with regard to profile (strength). Can anybody attest to the accuracy of the detailed characteristics for Oliva 2nds auctions on CigarBid? TIA

8 and a half YEARS, bp...8.5! and Oliva seconds is what prompted you to finally contact us?

you didn't call, you never wrote...8 and a half years...did you think we weren't concerned? did you even care?
Your mother and I were worried sick. Do you have any idea what this does to a woman?

just...just buy your precious seconds and be off with you. And don't even try asking us to send money.

We're done.

Do you hear me?

DONE!
KingoftheCove Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 4,954
Applause
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 25,914
KingoftheCove wrote:
Applause

it just came to me, as if in a dream...but it's getting more difficult to be fresh every day with this caravan of noobs heading our way.
KingoftheCove Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 4,954
frankj1 wrote:
it just came to me, as if in a dream...but it's getting more difficult to be fresh every day with this caravan of noobs heading our way.

That’s ok...........we’re grateful for all your efforts in correcting these thoughtless noops.
You’re a professional, no need to over think anything. Just let it rip..................like the crotch in your underwear.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 580
Wait, I didn't know that was an option. I write on occasion. Can I have some money?
frankj1 Offline
#12 Posted:
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Posts: 25,914
Sunoverbeach wrote:
Wait, I didn't know that was an option. I write on occasion. Can I have some money?

I'll ask your mother, but we've had a lot of unusual expenses lately.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 580
Did they raise the blue pill cost again?
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 25,914
inappropriate!
you kiss your mama wif dat mouf?


hey! where's bp?
tonygraz Offline
#15 Posted:
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Posts: 10,200
frankj1 wrote:
it just came to me, as if in a dream...but it's getting more difficult to be fresh every day with this caravan of noobs heading our way.


Build a wall - the Nicaraguans will pay for it.
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted:
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nice!
Speyside Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2015
Posts: 7,359
2nds is such a negative term, couldn't we call them quality challenged? I'll go to my safe place now. :)
tonygraz Offline
#18 Posted:
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Posts: 10,200
Or maybe rejects ?
kombat96 Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 04-12-2010
Posts: 9,297
2nds, my opinion none are worth buying. Think of the word seconds. Not up to quality, floor droppings,cigars not up to productivity standards but they found a way to sell them without tossing them in the trash.
Mandobro Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 04-10-2013
Posts: 588
frankj1 wrote:
inappropriate!



hey! where's bp?


Looking for Chocolate chief. Hey Frank, I hear you're retired.
bpeyton Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 09-11-2010
Posts: 2
Sorry I asked...
jespear Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2004
Posts: 8,249
bpeyton wrote:
Sorry I asked...


RollEyes
C'mon, brother . . . Put on your "big boy" pants.
This is a really good forum.
Stick around.
Read some of the previous posts and learn about what we do here.
Believe me, if you can get over getting your ballz busted, and do some reading, you'll see that this is a really cool place.
Big Hug
tonygraz Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 10,200
This will never be a Peyton place --- not even a b one.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 08-23-2014
Posts: 899
kombat96 wrote:
2nds, my opinion none are worth buying. Think of the word seconds. Not up to quality, floor droppings,cigars not up to productivity standards but they found a way to sell them without tossing them in the trash.


Usually true, but not always, David. A year or so ago at some other place, I stocked up on multiple bundles of Undercrown and Undercrown Shade 2nds for well under $2 ea. It was very hard to determine why they had been put to the side as 2nds. They looked, smoked and tasted just like the firsts. They even had a few T-52 and LP-9 2nd bundles that I just missed out on. IIRC, the T-52s where put up on the scary place for around $100 a bundle. With my discount, that would have put them at $85 shipped for 25. Needless to say, they sold out in a heart beat.

David
frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 25,914
Mandobro wrote:
Looking for Chocolate chief. Hey Frank, I hear you're retired.

I do believe you double dipped in that post!
Ewok126 Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 06-25-2017
Posts: 4,112
Oliva 2nds - What exactly am I bidding on?


Wrappers that the roller sneezed on during a very productive cold, (why they look so oily}
Spotted wrappers where da womens sit on the bails during break {no that is not just discoloration}
Binder from the bathroom where they ran out of TP {gives em that barnyard flavor}
Fillers from the floor where Phelipe had previously stepped in Juans chewing tobacco spit on the long walk to work. {Adds that extra tobacco flavor and goodness}

Quality not quite to par but smokable if you are a tight ass. Any other stupid questions?
Palama Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 10,809
bpeyton wrote:
I'm considering purchasing Oliva 2nds on CigarBid and want to be sure I'm bidding on the specific Oliva cigar I'm interested in (i.e. Connecticut Reserve, Saison, MB3, or Serie O/G/V/Melanio). The problem is the specific Oliva cigar is not explicitly indicated for each auction; however, the detailed characteristics are indicated (i.e. profile, wrapper, etc...), which should equate to a specific Oliva cigar. This sound easy enough, but I'm not convinced CigarBid is always accurate with Oliva 2nds detailed characteristics, particularly with regard to profile (strength). Can anybody attest to the accuracy of the detailed characteristics for Oliva 2nds auctions on CigarBid? TIA


I’ve typically stayed away from 2nds. Always figured there’s a reason why they’re being offered up but also thought it strange that there would be so many that could be offered on an auction site. I mean, how good is the QC process if that many can get through?

Unless you smoke like 3+ cigars a day, I would rather spend my money on better cigars. And hey, if the auction is not specific on what you’re bidding on then I’d be even more leery about trying to get some. But, to answer your question, maybe a call or e-mail to Customer Service might be better.
RobertHively Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 01-14-2015
Posts: 412
Here you go Peyton.

All it took was a 5 second internet search. Or you could've read through this forum a little. Here's the entire thread: http://www.cigarbid.com/...sts/658381/oliva-V-2nds

It's always important to do your own research, only use your FOG lifeline when it's truly needed.


JR54 Offline #4 Posted: Fri, Nov 16 2018, 3:58 PM EST
Joined: 02-12-2013
Posts: 2
Best guess...

Liga C = Oliva G Cameroon

Liga F = Flor de Oliva

Liga G = Oliva G maduro

Liga M = Oliva Master Blends

Liga O = Oliva Serie O

Liga OM = Oliva Serie O maduro

Liga P = ?

Liga S = Oliva Saison

Liga SM = Oliva Saison maduro

Liga V = Oliva Serie V

Liga VM = Oliva Serie V melanio maduro

Liga W = Oliva Connecticut Reserve
tonygraz Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 10,200
I was at an exclusive high end estate auction where one guy kept bidding while conversing with another guy. The auctioneer stopped at $ 900 and asked if he knew what he was bidding on and he shook his head no. The auctioneer pointed to the barn rooftop weathervane and said is that OK.The guy shook his head yes and then the auctioneer told him what he was really bidding on. I don't remember what that was tho. The moral of the story is bring lots of money if you have trouble paying attention.
KingoftheCove Offline
#30 Posted:
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^^ the cheat sheet I was talkin about......courtesy of Robert
And you got your answer in under 30 posts......dang good!
Palama Offline
#31 Posted:
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Posts: 10,809
KingoftheCove wrote:
^^ the cheat sheet I was talkin about......courtesy of Robert
And you got your answer in under 30 posts......dang good!


Kinda forgot about the list but am now curious as to its accuracy. For S&G, may want to actually bid on a couple of the auctions.
Salmoneye Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 01-18-2011
Posts: 142
Palama wrote:
Kinda forgot about the list but am now curious as to its accuracy. For S&G, may want to actually bid on a couple of the auctions.


It's got some right, and it's got some wrong...

And is no help whatsoever on the auctions simply listed as 'Oliva 2nds' with no Liga designation...

OPie is absolutely correct to not trust the strength indicator on those auctions...

Now back to our regularly scheduled n006 bashing...




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