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dstieger Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 1:43 PM EST
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NASA was in the news a bunch the last couple days.

Yesterday, Pence announced we're going to put man back on the moon in 5 years.

Today, feminists (and Hillary, too) are outraged because there weren't enough of right size (shape?) space suits on ISS to allow an all-female space walk....not because there was some special mission stuff that needed both those astronauts to take a walk...but just because...

Sort of like the reasoning to spend billions to walk on the moon again...because...

Meanwhile, buried in my news feed, a fourth nation, India, has successfully destroyed a live satellite.

I'm having trouble understanding why the first two stories are more important than the fact that our nav, comms, command and control systems are rapidly becoming extremely vulnerable.
gummy jones Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 1:59 PM EST
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this is the first ive heard of any of this
gummy jones Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 1:59 PM EST
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does this mean nasa expects the feminists to perform a nude moon walk?
victor809 Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 1:59 PM EST
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I dunno.... maybe it's the news I was reading, but I didn't read a ton of outrage about the women's space suits....
Some people are legitimately irritated that we're "re-doing" a moon landing when we should be using our resources to push forward to more challenging goals. But "outraged" might be a bit of a stretch....

And I read an article in the same area about the India satellite thing.... as part of tensions between India and Pakistan....

I dunno if I would get too upset about that one, just because I'm not sure our satellites have been that secure anyway... maybe from India... but I assumed other countries could always take them out.

I saw more coverage about the DOJ nixing the white house's "space force" plan. I was a bit disappointed they did that. They said it was because the plan was weirdly top-heavy and wanted unlimited $$.

Gene363 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 2:03 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
NASA was in the news a bunch the last couple days.

Yesterday, Pence announced we're going to put man back on the moon in 5 years.

Today, feminists (and Hillary, too) are outraged because there weren't enough of right size (shape?) space suits on ISS to allow an all-female space walk....not because there was some special mission stuff that needed both those astronauts to take a walk...but just because...

Sort of like the reasoning to spend billions to walk on the moon again...because...

Meanwhile, buried in my news feed, a fourth nation, India, has successfully destroyed a live satellite.

I'm having trouble understanding why the first two stories are more important than the fact that our nav, comms, command and control systems are rapidly becoming extremely vulnerable.


It'll be worth it if we get new and improved Tang with electrolytes.
dstieger Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 2:06 PM EST
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and an enhanced RadarRange?

Gummy, that's a great question. I'm guessing that Mrs. Ralph Northam won't be volunteering.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 2:06 PM EST
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Electrolytes like vodka? If so I'm down
dstieger Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 2:11 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:


And I read an article in the same area about the India satellite thing.... as part of tensions between India and Pakistan....

I dunno if I would get too upset about that one, just because I'm not sure our satellites have been that secure anyway... maybe from India... but I assumed other countries could always take them out.




Yeah, you're probably right. No reason to think that Pakistan won't insist on the capability now....and, just because North Korea just happened to be the first country to get nukes after Pakistan....well, its not like they're working on ballistic missiles or anything.

I'm sure we'll all be better off if EVERY country has the ability to take out satellites...it'll be like some universal deterrent, right?
victor809 Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 2:19 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Yeah, you're probably right. No reason to think that Pakistan won't insist on the capability now....and, just because North Korea just happened to be the first country to get nukes after Pakistan....well, its not like they're working on ballistic missiles or anything.

I'm sure we'll all be better off if EVERY country has the ability to take out satellites...it'll be like some universal deterrent, right?


Meh.

I'm not going to get too worried about it.

I think every dumb american should have the rights to own the weapons. Why am I going to care about idiots in other countries owning them?

I always thought a number of our policies regarding nukes or other advanced weapons were.... odd. "We got them so now we're going to say no one else should have them.... but you should totally trust us not to misuse them".

Not like our country is acting super trustworthy or stable these days.
teedubbya Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 2:35 PM EST
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We need to go back to the moon. There is a cheese shortage. We are about to run out.
delta1 Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 3:52 PM EST
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huh...getting mooned from the moon...hope those female astronauts have bouncy butts...
bgz Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 6:18 PM EST
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Serious post (I know, I haven't been doing much of those recently)...

The primary objective for the moon should be to build a permanent base and learn how to mine resources so one day we can use it as a launching base for other space based missions.

Because of it's low gravity and lack of any meaningful atmosphere would make it an ideal spot to launch missions from because you don't need as much fuel to escape the lunar gravity.

I'm all for doing more with the moon.
victor809 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 6:36 PM EST
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I think there was a Neil degrass Tyson podcast where he discusse this and pointed out that the moon is not ideal, that there's better ways to set up what would be launch points for further discovery. I honestly don't remember the rationale...
bgz Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 7:01 PM EST
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I can see if you had a space station that had manufacturing capabilities to where you could process asteroid material... but I don't think that's as feasible in the short term as a lunar based solution.

The moon is relatively close, has a surface, has resources that can be mined. I would say it's a pretty good starting point. Definitely better than launching from Earth.
Speyside Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Mar 27 2019, 8:55 PM EST
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Me and the moon stayed up all night;
I brought the whiskey! He brought the light!
Me and the moon stayed up all night;
I brought the whiskey! He brought the light!
A' quarter to three, we're feeling fine when the sun comes up I'm gonna miss my friend moonshine.
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Mar 28 2019, 12:42 AM EST
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On the bright side, the broads teets are as saggy on the moon.
Ewok126 Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Mar 28 2019, 12:47 AM EST
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what are they wanting, built in kotex? The damn things are unisex wtf.
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