midmofan wrote:I sense the OP knows this, but for anyone who doesn't, the Graycliffs you can buy on here and the Mothership are NOT made at the Graycliff place in the Bahamas. They are made under license by the owners of CI and Cbid. I actually have had a couple good ones in samplers from time to time but not the same as from de islands mon...
The "under-contract" CI/Cbid ones I've had have all been uniformly terrible.
One batch, the Professionale (blue band) Pirate (torpedo vitola) even said "NASSAU, BAHAMAS" right on their bands... but those may have been actually made by Graycliff in the Bahamas, NOT by someone else under contract. They were $6 each on a deep-discount sale in 2009, so maybe that specific batch WAS made by Graycliff, it's hard to say... but IMO they were just as terrible as all the others. The wrapper flaked off and they self-disassembled while smoking. Awful, all 20 of them that I bought (for $120), ugh.
So where can one get REAL Graycliffs actually made BY Graycliff in the Bahamas, NOT under-contract ones, and be SURE they're totally legit, not having to wonder? Use code-names for retailers of course... but I'd like to try a REAL one, and be totally sure it's real and not made by someone else under contract.
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