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Havlicek... RIP
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MACS Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Apr 25 2019, 8:45 PM EST
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Passed away at 79.
Cereal City Cigar Smoker Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Apr 25 2019, 9:09 PM EST
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Great player! RIP.
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Apr 25 2019, 9:18 PM EST
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Speyside Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Apr 25 2019, 10:12 PM EST
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Havlicek stole the ball! RIP.
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 12:34 AM EST
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Great player !
delta1 Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 12:37 AM EST
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I have a lot of memories of that bassturd...miserable being a Lakers fan back then...RIP...
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#7 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 6:27 AM EST
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Cereal City Cigar Smoker wrote:
Great player! RIP.



+1

Following worth the read.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/havlicek-stole-the-show
tonygraz Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 9:28 AM EST
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Great player on great teams.
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 9:44 AM EST
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he bridged very different Championship eras.
Still have not seen another player in constant motion like Hondo. Unmatched stamina, when he couldn't beat you with talent, he outlasted you, out willed you, out-efforted (?) you.

It took several seasons for me to finally place Bird above him in Celtic player rankings, and I'm still thinking it can be debated.

But mostly I will remember the impression he left on me when I was young in the way he carried himself, his modesty and appreciation of his gifts in life, his community service...just a clean, admirable person beyond sport superstar. That's what I wanted to emulate as a growing person.
gummy jones Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 10:05 AM EST
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RIP
streetrod Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 2:28 PM EST
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Remember watching him play on the Ohio State national championship team of 1960. What a team . His teammates included Jerry Lucas & Bobby Knight.
Hondo was also a good football player & was drafted by the Browns but decided to play basketball. Saw him play many times against the Knicks.
Just another memory from a FOG!
RIP
frankj1 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 2:33 PM EST
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streetrod wrote:
Remember watching him play on the Ohio State national championship team of 1960. What a team . His teammates included Jerry West & Bobby Knight.
Hondo was also a good football player & was drafted by the Browns but decided to play basketball. Saw him play many times against the Knicks.
Just another memory from a FOG!
RIP

I know you mean Jerry Lucas...
and Larry Sigfried was a star on the OSU team, though a marginal but decent pro
streetrod Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 2:46 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I know you mean Jerry Lucas...
and Larry Sigfried was a star on the OSU team, though a marginal but decent pro


Oops! Yes I did. Correction made.
tailgater Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 3:00 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
he bridged very different Championship eras.
Still have not seen another player in constant motion like Hondo. Unmatched stamina, when he couldn't beat you with talent, he outlasted you, out willed you, out-efforted (?) you.
.



I heard on the radio that he averaged over 40 minutes per game for about 6 full seasons.
streetrod Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 4:15 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I heard on the radio that he averaged over 40 minutes per game for about 6 full seasons.



5 seasons of 40 or more minutes averaged per game with a career average of 36.6 minutes per game.
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 6:22 PM EST
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and that includes being 6th man early in his career and all those years older than 33.

he was even greater than most think who consider him great.
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 6:30 PM EST
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it takes a humble and wise man to accept a lesser role than his talent deserves, but he was team first...
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 6:45 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
it takes a humble and wise man to accept a lesser role than his talent deserves, but he was team first...

the truth is Al, he was not a decent perimeter or long shooter at all for several seasons. He came into the league as a relentless defender and rebounder first, most of his points came through running and finishing. There were more accomplished scorers on the team when he arrived.

But like everything he decided to do, he worked his azz off and became a fine shooter, and was especially deadly in the clutch. He even went straight to the practice court after badly injuring his right shoulder in a playoff series against the Knicks and ended up averaging in the teens using only his left hand! They lost, but people were amazed at the time.

I know I'm sounding like a typical fanboy, but sometimes the person is greater than the amazing numbers.
I hold John Havlicek at the highest level, up there with the Walter Peytons of the world.
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 7:52 PM EST
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two all-time greats...but Payton will prolly stay near the top of the NFL pantheon 50 years from now, while Havlicek will slip a few rungs....sadly, stats drive that discussion...

those who saw Hondo play understand that there was more to the game than numbers...key rebounds at critical junctures in the game, steals, passes deflected, charges taken, free throws made in the clutch, shots altered.... he stood tall when it was winning time....
frankj1 Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Apr 26 2019, 8:01 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
two all-time greats...but Payton will prolly stay near the top of the NFL pantheon 50 years from now, while Havlicek will slip a few rungs....sadly, stats drive that discussion...

those who saw Hondo play understand that there was more to the game than numbers...key rebounds at critical junctures in the game, steals, passes deflected, charges taken, free throws made in the clutch, shots altered.... he stood tall when it was winning time....

that is basketball. and football. I am equating the two as stars who were better men than players.
Hondo also did much for charity...pretty sure he ran a fishing tournament for like 30 years for The Genesis Fund, an endeavor in which my late fil was also involved when he worked for Panasonic.
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