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Can Biden Beat Trump?
DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted:
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Nobody ever died because they didn't have Obamacare.. Not talking
frankj1 Offline
#52 Posted:
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don't know.
but I bet even if they did die, they voted anyway...HA!
DrafterX Offline
#53 Posted:
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Laugh
delta1 Offline
#54 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
All's I know is Obama holds the record for murdering the most amount of innocent civilians using drones...

My point was simply that trump is exactly the piece of crap he looks to be... Obama is exactly the piece of crap he pretended not to be... Call me crazy but I find the newly established honesty in politics refreshing... Also amazed that we see such honesty from the most lyingest president we've had...




which POTUS holds the record for murdering innocent civilians using conventional warfare? The number of innocent civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by aerial bombing and ground warfare far outnumber the hundreds killed by drones...Viet Nam, Gulf War, Korean War...plenty of innocent civilians killed

US military experts were unanimous in their assessment that drone warfare was the safest way to fight the new war on terrorism...putting boots on the ground was considered too risky...Obama inherited the program from GWB and was expected to continue the War on Terrorism, as is Trump...Obama liked the number of accurate strikes and accelerated the program...

many voices in the US intel community were/are saying that drone warfare was making more enemies for us due to the number of mistakes made, and the unrelenting fear that innocent people who lived in the targeted areas had about silent death raining down from the sky...so who were the real terrorists?

BTW: I do not support drone warfare precisely because of the numerous mistakes that lead to innocent deaths, the imperfect intel relied upon to id supposed terrorists, the unrelenting fear from unseen drones endured by innocent populations living in targeted areas...you are aware that Trump has continued the program...he just doesn't allow them to be reported...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-cancels-obama-policy-reporting-drone-strike-deaths-n980156


but I don't have any ideas for how to kill terrorists more efficiently...do we wait and let them attack us, and then try to track them down after the fact?
RMAN4443 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
which POTUS holds the record for murdering innocent civilians using conventional warfare? The number of innocent civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by aerial bombing and ground warfare far outnumber the hundreds killed by drones...Viet Nam, Gulf War, Korean War...plenty of innocent civilians killed

US military experts were unanimous in their assessment that drone warfare was the safest way to fight the new war on terrorism...putting boots on the ground was considered too risky...Obama inherited the program from GWB and liked the number of accurate strikes...

many voices in the US intel community were/are saying that drone warfare was making more enemies for us due to the number of mistakes made, and the unrelenting fear that innocent people who lived in the targeted areas had about silent death raining down from the sky...so who were the real terrorists?

BTW: I do not support drone warfare precisely because of the numerous mistakes that lead to innocent deaths, the imperfect intel relied upon to id supposed terrorists, the unrelenting fear from unseen drones endured by innocent populations living in targeted areas...you are aware that Trump has continued the program...he just doesn't allow them to be reported...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-cancels-obama-policy-reporting-drone-strike-deaths-n980156


but I don't have any ideas for how to kill terrorists more efficiently...do we wait and let them attack us, and then try to track them down after the fact?

sounds like an argument in favor of stopping illegal aliens at the border...Think
opelmanta1900 Offline
#56 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
which POTUS holds the record for murdering innocent civilians using conventional warfare?

Probably either Washington or Lincoln...
Buckwheat Offline
#57 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Probably either Washington or Lincoln...


Let's not leave out FDR.

I'm not so sure that Biden can beat trump. He's old and a retread to boot. fog
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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Buckwheat wrote:
Let's not leave out FDR.

I'm not so sure that Biden can beat trump. He's old and a retread to boot. fog


With all the fire storms started in cities by incendiary bombs, you're probably correct. A two day raid on Tokyo using conventional bombs killed over 100,000 civilians. That's more then where killed by BOTH atomic bombs together.

David
frankj1 Offline
#59 Posted:
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war is Hell
delta1 Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
sounds like an argument in favor of stopping illegal aliens at the border...Think



can't remember the last ISIS attack in Mexico, or Central America...Think



but we DO need a secure border and to identify everyone coming in and for what purpose...
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