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corey sellers Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 5:18 PM EST
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Everytime I smoke out of this box of undercrowns the cap wants to unravel anything I need to know about what to get smartazz answers are always welcome

Beer

Herfing
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#2 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 5:20 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Everytime I smoke out of this box of undercrowns the cap wants to unravel anything I need to know about what to get smartazz answers are always welcome

Beer

Herfing



How many times must you be.... corrected? If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, NO TEETH! Geez...
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#3 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 5:22 PM EST
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Usually us here southern folks dont have none but I got bling brother
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#4 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 5:29 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Everytime I smoke out of this box of undercrowns the cap wants to unravel anything I need to know about what to get smartazz answers are always welcome

Beer

Herfing

Better cigars...
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#5 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 5:42 PM EST
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Winds blowing like hell out here had a La Nox but put back up got storms coming in but good answer Opie
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#6 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 5:58 PM EST
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I moisten the top inch or so, then spin it between my fingers for 10 to 15 seconds, then wait an additional minute or so before cutting.
Works well...
CelticBomber Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 5:58 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Winds blowing like hell out here had a La Nox but put back up got storms coming in but good answer Opie


We're getting those storms here in Philly too. Been all rain, thunder and lightning for a few days now.
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#8 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 6:02 PM EST
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Thanks KOTC will try that next I smoke one of these phuggers
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#9 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 6:03 PM EST
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Celtic nothing yet just phugging wind which is giving me hell
RMAN4443 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 6:03 PM EST
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I light them from the other end...you don't even need a cutter....takes a little bit of work to get them going, but it's worth it...Anxious
corey sellers Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 6:06 PM EST
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Thats true Rick did Frank teach you that trick you know he is wicked smart
dstieger Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 6:45 PM EST
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El Ligador Cigar Repair Glue, less than ten bucks from Amazon
corey sellers Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 6:57 PM EST
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Thanks brother dam no body said elmers or just use a little clear caulk WTF are ya'll getting soft on me
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#14 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 7:03 PM EST
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Just buy some un-flavored pectin at the supermarket. Saved a box of Viaje Samurai maduros once using that (had to sacrifice one for wrapper patches) as they split in the box ☹️
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#15 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 7:11 PM EST
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clickbangdead wrote:
Just buy some un-flavored pectin at the supermarket. Saved a box of Viaje Samurai maduros once using that (had to sacrifice one for wrapper patches) as they split in the box ☹️

I've heard about the liquid pectin remedy, and at a fraction of the cost, it gets my vote....
You can get it in the food canning dept. of most grocery and hardware stores...
corey sellers Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 7:12 PM EST
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Thank you brother probably can get that at my local publix
RMAN4443 Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 7:16 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Thank you brother probably can get that at my local publix

make sure you get the unflavored liquid....the sweet stuff will change the flavor of the cigars...
corey sellers Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 7:25 PM EST
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Maybe I can find some va Jay jay flavored j/k of course sorry been a long day drink up boys

Beer

Herfing
izonfire Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 9:21 PM EST
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I use a Screwpop punch. It has a wider diameter than most punches, and does the trick nicely for most of my smokes.
Just moisten the tip and let it sit for a bit, then rotate the punch as you plunge it in. No more unravelling of the cap.
(works for sex too, just have someone else moisten it up for a good long while)

It has a clip on it too, so it's always on my keychain ready and waiting. ThumpUp
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#20 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 9:23 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Maybe I can find some va Jay jay flavored j/k of course sorry been a long day drink up boys

Beer

Herfing


Just find a chick to Lewinski it for ya
RMAN4443 Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 9:55 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Just find a chick to Lewinski it for ya

I'll take Polish names that can be used as verbs, for a thousand, Alex...Think
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#22 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 10:34 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Everytime I smoke out of this box of undercrowns the cap wants to unravel anything I need to know about what to get smartazz answers are always welcome

Beer

Herfing


How old is your box of UCs? Back in 2015, DE was having cap issues with their MUWAT Bait Fish. Don’t know if other lines were affected but I avoided buying DE product from that point forward.
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#23 Posted: Thu, Jun 20 2019, 10:37 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Just find a chick to Lewinski it for ya


Gotta be careful with that, sometimes they will leave smagma on your stick...
Whistle
corey sellers Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Jun 21 2019, 6:43 AM EST
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Palama these where from 2016 I believe
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#25 Posted: Sat, Jun 22 2019, 7:00 AM EST
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So I'd I have a cracked wrapper, will glue fix it or do I need to create a patch with a separate piece o wrapper - like fixing an inner tube?
KingoftheCove Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Jun 22 2019, 8:41 AM EST
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tamapatom wrote:
So I'd I have a cracked wrapper, will glue fix it or do I need to create a patch with a separate piece o wrapper - like fixing an inner tube?

Depends on the severity of the crack, where it is, etc.
Sometimes all the wrapper is still on the cigar, so you just sort of glue it down.
Other times there might be a larger chunk missing that you’ll need to patch in order to fix a leaky draw.
Cracks and rips near the foot aren’t a big deal, just fixit quick and light it up.
Any injuries near the head need careful attention and a good fix.

Then again, when a Gurkha explodes...............there’s no fixing that...
tamapatom Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Jun 22 2019, 9:37 AM EST
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Slapping some glue over the crack sounds like the trick. No big gaps. Thanks
CelticBomber Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Jun 22 2019, 12:36 PM EST
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Where do you guys get the leaves for patches? Do you sacrificed a cheap smoke, is there a kit with different leaves? I know of sites that sell leaves etc so you can roll your own but with all the different wrappers in my boxes I wouldn't know where to begin. Then again I've been super lucky and only had a problem once. I cut about 1/2 inch off the foot and repaired a small but nasty crack caused by a punch. Didn't moisten like I usually do.

I was also surprised by all the different leaves from all over the world. African and middle eastern tobacco's I'd never heard of. Stuff from the Baltic states and India.... makes me wonder what I'm missing out on in the rest of the world.... or that maybe there's a reason I never heard of them. /shrug
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#29 Posted: Sat, Jun 22 2019, 2:06 PM EST
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Pectin is your savior
RMAN4443 Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Jun 22 2019, 2:19 PM EST
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kombat96 wrote:
Pectin is your savior

best way to save a wayward lancero....that's what I heard....Anxious
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#31 Posted: Sat, Jun 22 2019, 3:18 PM EST
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Celt, it really depends on the damage. For just a crack, just put some glue so it sticks down to the binder. If you need a patch, you just use a sacraficial piece from another cigar. Unless you are doing quite a large patch, it ought not matter all that much what sort of leaf it is, but if you are super worried, grab the piece you normally cut off the head to use, or cut the cigar down half inch or so and use the wrap from the cutting.
blcraven Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Jun 28 2019, 2:37 AM EST
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I chew the heck out of my cigars. Don't need no stinking cap.
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#33 Posted: Fri, Jun 28 2019, 7:22 AM EST
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Use a punch. fog
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#34 Posted: Sun, Oct 6 2019, 10:05 AM EST
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#35 Posted: Sun, Oct 6 2019, 10:23 AM EST
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Eat some caramels and spit on it
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#36 Posted: Sun, Oct 6 2019, 11:26 AM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Eat some caramels and spit on it


If I had a nickle for everytime I used that one. Beer
zody Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Oct 27 2019, 5:02 PM EST
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Wilton Tylex Gum powder.
I swear by it.
I got a can of it from Michaels craft store 2 or 3 years ago maybe more. Best I've used and the cheapest - once can and you'll NEVER need to buy more.
You could run a rolling factory floor with that can that's maybe 8 bucks. Keep the can in a zip lock and it will last until you're out, or still sit there after you're in your dirt nap feeding the worms.

I've given some bottles I mixed up to a few folks in with their smokes, they can validate once they've tried it.

Food grade cellulose, no sugar, no taste. Requires no special storage a sealed plastic container will do nicely.
Hot water, mix in a TINY bit of powder at a time. It will clump up, microwave for a few seconds keep mixing heating and add more hot water until the consistency is like fresh honey and completely clear.
If you get that consistency, glues down cracks, holds patches, re-glues bad seams, reattaches unraveled caps.
Squeeze bottle, dip your finger in a container, brush, toothpick however you want to put it on.
Use the right amount, don't soak it. Once it's holding doesn't have to be completely dry, you can seal down a soggy cap after you've already been smoking.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Oct 27 2019, 5:32 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
I moisten the top inch or so, then spin it between my fingers for 10 to 15 seconds, then wait an additional minute or so before cutting.
Works well...

Yeah, it works well, WITH YOUR OWN CUTTER!

We used to have a guy at one of my local cigar lounges who would ask other patrons to borrow their cutter. He'd take it, then make out with the head of his cigar, slobbering all over it, then cut it, and hand the cutter back to its owner. Either that, or he'd slobber over the head, then use one of the shop's cutters.

We quickly learned to:

1. never lend him our cutters,
2. never ask to borrow his cutter, and
3. never use the shop cutter(s) ever again.

Ugh, yuck. Thanks a lot, a**hole.

zody wrote:
...until the consistency is like fresh honey and completely clear. If you get that consistency, glues down cracks, holds patches, re-glues bad seams, reattaches unraveled caps.

There's a reason that particular consistency works so well, it's because honey itself works great as a cigar glue, requires no prep (no mixing and microwaving), its lifespan is infinite (5000-year-old honey found in king Tut's tomb is still edible and fine) and it's dirt cheap compared to the tiny, exorbitantly-priced bottles of cigar glue that are often sold.
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clintCigar Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019, 7:06 PM EST
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I use PerfecRepair cigar glue. No flavor and works great.
delta1 Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019, 7:13 PM EST
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I bought a box of unflavored pectin (food grade cellulose?) from the Jell-o section of the grocery store a few years ago...keep it stored in a small ziplock....don't remember the brand...Knox?

mix a a small amount of the dry powder, maybe 1/4 teaspoon with a drop or two of water until it's blended into a thin paste.... dab on with a QTip or small hobby paint brush...let sit for 10-15 minutes...works great, doesn't affect the flavor of the cigar...


gonna try the honey, tho, to see if it works without altering the flavor of the cigar...if so, it would save the mixing step of powdered pectin....

ima cheap and lazy bazzturd
USNGunner Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019, 8:15 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I bought a box of unflavored pectin (food grade cellulose?) from the Jell-o section of the grocery store a few years ago...keep it stored in a small ziplock....don't remember the brand...Knox?

mix a a small amount of the dry powder, maybe 1/4 teaspoon with a drop or two of water until it's blended into a thin paste.... dab on with a QTip or small hobby paint brush...let sit for 10-15 minutes...works great, doesn't affect the flavor of the cigar...


gonna try the honey, tho, to see if it works without altering the flavor of the cigar...if so, it would save the mixing step of powdered pectin....

ima cheap and lazy bazzturd


Well, think caramel. That's burnt sugar. I'm not sure you could pick up a tiny amount, but some honey get's pretty thick.

As a beekeeper I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I'd go with some cheap store brand honey. You'll want the filtered and processed stuff for this I think.

Don't get the good stuff.

Chef
zody Offline
#42 Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019, 8:36 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Yeah, it works well, WITH YOUR OWN CUTTER!

We used to have a guy at one of my local cigar lounges who would ask other patrons to borrow their cutter. He'd take it, then make out with the head of his cigar, slobbering all over it, then cut it, and hand the cutter back to its owner. Either that, or he'd slobber over the head, then use one of the shop's cutters.

We quickly learned to:

1. never lend him our cutters,
2. never ask to borrow his cutter, and
3. never use the shop cutter(s) ever again.

Ugh, yuck. Thanks a lot, a**hole.


There's a reason that particular consistency works so well, it's because honey itself works great as a cigar glue, requires no prep (no mixing and microwaving), its lifespan is infinite (5000-year-old honey found in king Tut's tomb is still edible and fine) and it's dirt cheap compared to the tiny, exorbitantly-priced bottles of cigar glue that are often sold.
.


Introduce sugar into a humid environment. Sugar is food for us... and bugs, likely beetles as well... and mold. Mold loves sugar.

Pectin is bitter, unflavored or not and it's a fruit/food product.
Introduce a food into the environment our beloved leaf likes to live in to stay healthy and you're looking for trouble IMHO.
In the end, use what you like. Just like you smoke what you like. We can all offer tips and advice on what works for us but in the end the choice is your own.
In my younger judgemental days I'd rave at someone for not taking "good" advice.

Cello on, cooler or humidor, store dry or wet. It's all what works for you.
That should stir something. Pot stirred.
Full of crap
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#43 Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019, 9:01 PM EST
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Zody, it's up to 9.81 now via amazon prime. I'll give it a go.
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#44 Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019, 9:19 PM EST
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Tell you what, if you can deal with delays pm your addy and I’ll send you a tbsp. Plenty to make a large batch, you can post your judgement.
How’s that sound?
USNGunner Offline
#45 Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019, 9:53 PM EST
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zody wrote:
Tell you what, if you can deal with delays pm your addy and I’ll send you a tbsp. Plenty to make a large batch, you can post your judgement.
How’s that sound?



I appreciate it but already had one ordered. Hell, compared to some of the crap I've bought, $10 for something that sounds like it works is de nada. BigGrin
zody Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Oct 28 2019, 10:17 PM EST
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Viehl gluck Gunny, post your results unvarnished I’m interested to see what you think. Salut!
Pudding Mittens Offline
#47 Posted: Tue, Oct 29 2019, 1:01 AM EST
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zody wrote:
Introduce sugar into a humid environment. Sugar is food for us... and bugs, likely beetles as well... and mold. Mold loves sugar. ... Introduce a food into the environment our beloved leaf likes to live in to stay healthy and you're looking for trouble IMHO.

The only time I do honey repairs to a wrapper is when I am about to smoke the cigar.

I really doubt bugs or mold trouble will happen in the 60 seconds between repair and lighting. Herfing

(However if someone does honey repairs then puts the cigar back in a humidor, which I'd never do, yes that might end badly).
.
delta1 Offline
#48 Posted: Tue, Oct 29 2019, 12:30 PM EST
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yep, I don't do a repair job with the pectin until I'm going to smoke one, or the one I'm smoking needs a repair...I 've always thought this technique was just a temp fix to smoke or finish a cigar...never considered it for storing a cigar...
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#49 Posted: Wed, Nov 20 2019, 1:52 PM EST
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zody wrote:
Wilton Tylex Gum powder.
I swear by it.
I got a can of it from Michaels craft store 2 or 3 years ago maybe more. Best I've used and the cheapest - once can and you'll NEVER need to buy more.
You could run a rolling factory floor with that can that's maybe 8 bucks. Keep the can in a zip lock and it will last until you're out, or still sit there after you're in your dirt nap feeding the worms.

I've given some bottles I mixed up to a few folks in with their smokes, they can validate once they've tried it.

Food grade cellulose, no sugar, no taste. Requires no special storage a sealed plastic container will do nicely.
Hot water, mix in a TINY bit of powder at a time. It will clump up, microwave for a few seconds keep mixing heating and add more hot water until the consistency is like fresh honey and completely clear.
If you get that consistency, glues down cracks, holds patches, re-glues bad seams, reattaches unraveled caps.
Squeeze bottle, dip your finger in a container, brush, toothpick however you want to put it on.
Use the right amount, don't soak it. Once it's holding doesn't have to be completely dry, you can seal down a soggy cap after you've already been smoking.


I was one of the recipients of Zody's cigar glue mixture and can honestly say I've never had another that worked as well. I've sealed cracked wrappers, reattached wrappers that were unraveling and caps that were fraying, it worked great in every instance. Even touched up a couple of cracks as I was smoking, the glue sealed and dried quickly without hindering my experience...and, one small drop goes a long way.
I tried honey, a couple of times in the past, and always had problems with it getting sticky as the cigar warmed from smoking, even after letting it set a couple of days to dry.
A big thanks!!! to brother Zody for hooking me up with the WTG mixture.
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