teedubbya wrote:I just poked fun at tail because he thinks anyone with differing opinions than him couldn't have come up with them on their own because he is the only one immune to media. I hope (and think) he is just stirring with those statements because if he believes that he is an idiot and ironically it's the same crap being spewed by certain media outlets and he could be accused of the same. I don't believe he really thinks that for a minute because I think he is intelligent but I have no idea what he really believes or thinks. I can only go by what he says.
As for Grandmaster Orange I think he realizes a simple concept. Remember the pictures where some see the young woman, and some the old.... and if you focus awhile you can see the other.
http://b2bdigital.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Young_Lady_Old_Woman_Content.jpg
Some folks see the racism, some don't. Some see racism more than they should, some don't see it at all even when they should.
Grandmaster T knows this and does things to stoke both camps. My wife has heard go back to her country many times over her life. She sees it as racist.... and it is. I have seen how it impacts her and am in tune with it. Others don't understand why they can't say this to folks because it wouldn't bother them if it was said to them. They have not seen the impact and are not in tune with it. That does not mean it doesn't exist, simply that they are unaware.
Depending on your predisposition you will see the old lady or the young. The grandmaster is manipulative and uses this.
Here is where I stand though...... even if I don't see the racism I can't just say so therefor it isn't. I may not see the old lady in the picture but when someone tells me they do I can't just discount them. If I focus long enough I might just see their perspective. It's really there. They are not making it up. And once I get to that point if I continue to insist and repeat (in the case of racism) then I indeed am being racist.
I don't think it can be disputed that folks of color are told to go back to where they come from at a higher rate than me. Even if I can't prove it statistically they believe that. Good enough. They are telling you what and why. Insisting to be able to continue, or there is nothing wrong with it, or turning it into they can't think for themselves, or you cant be critical of any non-white, is to simply want to be able to offend because you disrespect them. You can call it their tactic, or they are snowflakes etc. But in the end it is disrespect.
The comments are seen by many (probably most but I don't care) as racist. Forget the intent. If you want to continue to insist they are not then you are showing you really don't care if they are. That's fine but it says a lot.
And I am in no way defending "the squad". the name is stupid and juvenile and their policies worse. But that's beside the point. And you can dislike them without being racist.
And watch out for the ferryman telling you the other side hates you. They are using you. Those women do not hate America any more then grandmaster T does.
well worded, never felt the writer was under any delusion...I give it an A.
I'm white, not obviously Jewish (I don't think) when looked at, and have not experienced being told to go back to where I came from, which was a well to do suburb of Boston.
But roughly between the end of the 60's and the end of the Viet Nam War, my friends and I were singled out many times, possibly due to long hair, certainly due to organized legal peaceful methods of protesting the war, and told in not very subtle ways to get out...as in get out of America. Stuff not as nice as Love it or Leave it or versions of that slogan.
We were being what we thought was very American, Patriotic even, and loving America and wanting better for and from her was the impetus.
It struck me then that people yelling the equivalent of my way or the highway, were the unAmerican one's, not us.
And turns out, good thing we stood our ground. That war ended...cuz we were right all along.