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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 4:24 PM EST
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he House of Representatives approved the Raise the Wage Act Thursday, which would boost the federal minimum wage for the first time in a decade.

In a 231-199 vote along party lines, the House passed the legislation that would increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour, more than double the current rate of $7.25. In an even more drastic increase, the bill calls for having the same minimum wage for tipped workers, raising it from $2.13 an hour.

A report from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicted that approximately 30 million people would see higher earnings as a result of the bill, bringing more than one million out of poverty.

"America's workers deserve a raise," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said at a press conference before the vote.

The bill is unlikely to become law, however, as it would still need to pass in the Senate, which is controlled by a Republican majority.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., also celebrated the bill's passing, which he said was the "right thing to do"


Film at 11.. Mellow



Still wouldn't be enough... hell, Amazon was striking the other day because they actually have to work for their 15 bucks an hour...
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 4:32 PM EST
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And i guess tipping would be done... no sense in tipping someone making 15 bucks an hour right..?? Mellow
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#3 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 4:47 PM EST
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C'mon, Drafter, you know the rap. The more they can get on Gov'ment assistance, the more votes they own. We can't have a good working body of people making their own decisions, y'know....
Phil222 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 5:01 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
A report from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicted that approximately 30 million people would see higher earnings as a result of the bill, bringing more than one million out of poverty.

One million less working people in this country that qualify for welfare.
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 5:34 PM EST
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Not when half the restaurants in the country close their doors... Mellow
Phil222 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 5:39 PM EST
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Is that what happened in the cities around the country that have already increased the minimum wage to $15?
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 5:43 PM EST
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That's what i heard... Mellow
Phil222 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 5:45 PM EST
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I heard Fox News was 'Fair and Balanced.'
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 5:45 PM EST
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No chance of it getting thru da Senate anyways... it's just another attempt to make the Republicans look bad... Mellow
Phil222 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 5:48 PM EST
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Not sure if they need any help at looking bad these days...and it is not just the Senate. Trump would never sign it. He said the minimum wage was too high when campaigning in 2016.
DrafterX Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 6:01 PM EST
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He did not... Not talking
Phil222 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 6:06 PM EST
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That's what I heard...
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 6:08 PM EST
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Laugh
Phil222 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Jul 18 2019, 6:14 PM EST
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BigGrin
tailgater Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2019, 8:48 AM EST
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Phil222 wrote:
Is that what happened in the cities around the country that have already increased the minimum wage to $15?


Waitstaff and servers make less than minimum.
borndead1 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2019, 8:41 PM EST
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Labor is subject to the law of supply and demand just like everything else. When the price of something increases, people buy less of it. If this passes and Amazon/midwest manufacturing workers are suddenly making minimum wage, sh*t will get crazy really quick.

I'd like to ask Nancy or Bernie this question: would it be better to employ 1 person at $15/hr, or 2 people at $7.50?
MACS Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2019, 9:00 PM EST
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^^Or none because the businesses automate. Expensive up front, but cheaper in the long run.
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2019, 9:14 PM EST
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Amazon is already paying $15 an hour.. but the employees feel they're being worked to hard... like i said, the free stuff will never be enough... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2019, 9:50 PM EST
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I don't know anyone able to live on $15/hour...

but since my vote is meaningless, who is offering money? I'll vote for them if the money is there.
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#20 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2019, 9:52 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Waitstaff and servers make less than minimum.


I think that's still true just about everywhere.
But didn't some places like maybe Seattle bring them up to minimum?
It would be interesting to see what the negative effects were if that is true.
frankj1 Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2019, 10:08 PM EST
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fox news is not saying it's hurting Seattle despite headline.
other links I looked at were not taking a hard position

https://www.foxnews.com/us/restaurant-chain-blames-high-minimum-wage-for-bankruptcy

I'd easily believe that I'd prefer lower hourly with better tips if I was a server.
borndead1 Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Jul 19 2019, 11:11 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
fox news is not saying it's hurting Seattle despite headline.
other links I looked at were not taking a hard position

https://www.foxnews.com/us/restaurant-chain-blames-high-minimum-wage-for-bankruptcy

I'd easily believe that I'd prefer lower hourly with better tips if I was a server.


90/100 servers would rather get $2 + tips

The other 10% are sh*tty servers
CelticBomber Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2019, 12:40 AM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
90/100 servers would rather get $2 + tips

The other 10% are sh*tty servers



Sorry but Mr Pink doesn't believe in tipping.
izonfire Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2019, 1:16 AM EST
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Globalization is not the friend of the middle class. And this will only continue...
Phil222 Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2019, 6:24 AM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
would it be better to employ 1 person at $15/hr, or 2 people at $7.50?

I have read conflicting reports about job loss. I have always believed that money in the hands of people who spend it is better for the economy (trickle-up vs. trickle-down), but not sure if a blanket wage increase is the best way to achieve this goal. There are plenty of studies on the minimum wage increase for people who are interested in job loss, etc.

We could eliminate the minimum wage and businesses would still automate. Winter is coming...
tailgater Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2019, 9:08 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I think that's still true just about everywhere.
But didn't some places like maybe Seattle bring them up to minimum?
It would be interesting to see what the negative effects were if that is true.


Negative or positive, it's a joke.
Workers WANT to be a waiter at $2.50/hour plus tips. They don't want to be a dishwasher at $12/hour.
That's an absolute fact.

But the liberals want to "fix" the perceived problem by using government.
tailgater Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2019, 9:09 AM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Globalization is not the friend of the middle class. And this will only continue...


Tariffs!
tailgater Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2019, 9:10 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
fox news is not saying it's hurting Seattle despite headline.
other links I looked at were not taking a hard position

https://www.foxnews.com/us/restaurant-chain-blames-high-minimum-wage-for-bankruptcy

I'd easily believe that I'd prefer lower hourly with better tips if I was a server.


You always did like big tips.
tailgater Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Jul 20 2019, 9:11 AM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
Sorry but Mr Pink doesn't believe in tipping.


That's because he doesn't have a cool name like Mr. White.
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