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Vegueros CC
CelticBomber Offline
#1 Posted:
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Eoudias sent me a pair of these and I gotta say after the Siglo this is my next favorite CC. It has a spicy upfront taste that fades to fresh cut hay. The retrohale really threw me for a loop, first you get hit with a hot spicey flavor that immediately cools down into something almost nutty. I enjoyed the hell out of this smoke. That first blast of spice forces you to concentrate on what you're tasting. It's definitely an alone smoke. You want time to think about what you're smoking rather than having a drink and chatting with people. Though I think this would pair well with a Bourbon because of that upfront spice. I gotta send that man something..... anyone know what he drinks??
euodias Offline
#2 Posted:
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We made a fair trade, don't be getting foolish on me.

I'm glad you like them, but they are pretty much $3-4 sticks. Enjoy them for what they are but don't imagine that I was passing out something extravagant here.
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#3 Posted:
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The flavors you got are the same as the discontinued Vegeros a decade or so ago. They were supposed to come back with new vitolas and were to have been made a "flag ship" brand. YMMV.
Herfing
gummy jones Offline
#4 Posted:
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good to know

nice mini review

ill have to put these on the short list of future "to tries"
CelticBomber Offline
#5 Posted:
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I smoked the second one tonight and when I finished I immediately ordered a box. This cigar is just out of this world for the price! I ordered the Vegueros - Tapados Can (46 x 4.7) 16 count for $62. Normally $81 but they are on sale atm on Ravi's site. PM me if interested and don't know the site I'm referring to!
gummy jones Offline
#6 Posted:
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on the way
midmofan Offline
#7 Posted:
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Thanks for the heads-up on the sale, just ordered a can myself.
NapalmMan67 Offline
#8 Posted:
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I was never to keen on these. You guys can have my share.
USNGunner Offline
#9 Posted:
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I'm going to give them a try. One can on the way.
clintCigar Offline
#10 Posted:
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Me too. Can on the way.

U better be on point Celtic.

ram27bat Tongue
midmofan Offline
#11 Posted:
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Hard to go very wrong at this price. The descriptions above sound great and, even if they don't turn out to be a favorite, I know a lot of people I can highly impress (for under $4) giving them a CC! :)
clintCigar Offline
#12 Posted:
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yeah read some pretty good reviews on them
midmofan Offline
#13 Posted:
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Got my tin the other day. Shipped from Guatemala of all places. This was my first purchase from Ravi so did not know what to expect. The tin had been opened (as they disclose on the website where they also say you can request they don't open the boxes). The tin was then wrapped in plastic with a little 69% Bovida pack inserted between the wrap and the tin. Not sure how much difference that would make but its a nice thought.

Although I will let most of then rest for a while, I did try one after only a couple days.

The wrappers are all pretty rough and "rustic." Veins and wrinkles and a few blemishes on some of them. Two of the cigars and small greenish spots on them. Segregated those in a zip-lock, just in case. Leaving the rest in the tin inside my coolador.

Pre-light smell very nice, the hay people describe was there along with a sweet tobacco.

Cigar lit up well and mostly burned straight. Did need one touch up about halfway in.

The flavor was quite nice, some spice but mine was not as hot/spicy as the OP's notes suggest. A light salty-savory undertone upfront along with the spice with some sweet hay/nutty aftertaste.

In all, assuming the green spots are not big deal, it was a good purchase. Very nice flavor and well worth the price. Won't ever confuse these with my beloved Hoyo Epicure's, but a very good smoke.

shaun341 Offline
#14 Posted:
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^^^ I believe the green spots are a water stain, I have seen it on a few cc and never had any issues.
gummy jones Offline
#15 Posted:
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midmofan wrote:
Got my tin the other day. Shipped from Guatemala of all places. This was my first purchase from Ravi so did not know what to expect. The tin had been opened (as they disclose on the website where they also say you can request they don't open the boxes). The tin was then wrapped in plastic with a little 69% Bovida pack inserted between the wrap and the tin. Not sure how much difference that would make but its a nice thought.

Although I will let most of then rest for a while, I did try one after only a couple days.

The wrappers are all pretty rough and "rustic." Veins and wrinkles and a few blemishes on some of them. Two of the cigars and small greenish spots on them. Segregated those in a zip-lock, just in case. Leaving the rest in the tin inside my coolador.

Pre-light smell very nice, the hay people describe was there along with a sweet tobacco.

Cigar lit up well and mostly burned straight. Did need one touch up about halfway in.

The flavor was quite nice, some spice but mine was not as hot/spicy as the OP's notes suggest. A light salty-savory undertone upfront along with the spice with some sweet hay/nutty aftertaste.

In all, assuming the green spots are not big deal, it was a good purchase. Very nice flavor and well worth the price. Won't ever confuse these with my beloved Hoyo Epicure's, but a very good smoke.



got the same tin from a different obscure country

threw them in the freezer without breaking the mazo

i have very low expectations so the sky is the limit
USNGunner Offline
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gummy jones wrote:
got the same tin from a different obscure country

threw them in the freezer without breaking the mazo

i have very low expectations so the sky is the limit


Yep. In the freezer they went, I did open the plastic just enough to remove the bovida pack before I froze it. Taking them out tomorrow.
midmofan Offline
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USNGunner wrote:
Yep. In the freezer they went, I did open the plastic just enough to remove the bovida pack before I froze it. Taking them out tomorrow.


I would put them in the refrigerator for a day after the freezer.
USNGunner Offline
#18 Posted:
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midmofan wrote:
I would put them in the refrigerator for a day after the freezer.


That is the plan. I had read Whistlebritches procedure posts in some of the other old threads on beetles. Not what I want in my humidor. Anxious
gummy jones Offline
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#17 I used to do that and agree in theory but got lazy and have never had an issue
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#15 Obscure country? Wait, wasn't one or more of those sending us gangs of gun-toting, womenfolk-threatening, job-taking, drug dealing, drug using, drug making gang members who were definitely, positively, absolutely at least 7 years old each and due to arrive to rape, murder and pillage at any moment? Damn you and your cavalier attitude, senor!

Oops.
frankj1 Offline
#21 Posted:
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do I need to buy these?
are they good without a nap?
midmofan Offline
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I had one of the "green spot" ones tonight. It was spicier than the first one. Enjoyed it to the nub. To be honest there are non CCs that I like better, but at $4 a piece and tasting good with no rest, a pretty good deal for a CC!

Taking a couple this weekend to a Stanley Cup party (yes I will get to hug and kiss the cup!) to impress the riff-raff. :)
gummy jones Offline
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pacman357 wrote:
#15 Obscure country? Wait, wasn't one or more of those sending us gangs of gun-toting, womenfolk-threatening, job-taking, drug dealing, drug using, drug making gang members who were definitely, positively, absolutely at least 7 years old each and due to arrive to rape, murder and pillage at any moment? Damn you and your cavalier attitude, senor!

Oops.


i want to say it was from bulgaria or something

frankj1: i finally pulled the trigger after folks on other forums said they are cheap flavor bombs. at that price, what do you have to lose really? the ones i got are only a year old and still in the freezer so i usually try to wait at least 3 months before trying one. but it sounds like midmo has been pleasantly surprised.


Maybe ill try one this afternoon (fresh out of the freezer) and post a review on this thread.
midmofan Offline
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Would not surprise me if these get better with age, and will put some back for long term. But for $4, hey, enjoy! For comparison at about the same price I actually like the Room 101 cool arrows more and the MC3 Roxxos (even cheaper) as well and of course a lot of more expensive ones even better, but these are very nice, if a bit ugly.
USNGunner Offline
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midmofan wrote:
Would not surprise me if these get better with age, and will put some back for long term. But for $4, hey, enjoy! For comparison at about the same price I actually like the Room 101 cool arrows more and the MC3 Roxxos (even cheaper) as well and of course a lot of more expensive ones even better, but these are very nice, if a bit ugly.


Oddly enough, I have both. Beer

Well, I guess all three now. Think
frankj1 Offline
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gummy jones wrote:
i want to say it was from bulgaria or something

frankj1: i finally pulled the trigger after folks on other forums said they are cheap flavor bombs. at that price, what do you have to lose really? the ones i got are only a year old and still in the freezer so i usually try to wait at least 3 months before trying one. but it sounds like midmo has been pleasantly surprised.


Maybe ill try one this afternoon (fresh out of the freezer) and post a review on this thread.

obrigado
gummy jones Offline
#27 Posted:
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Review 8/18 vegueros rott/rotf (right off the truck/ right out the freezer)

The setting: back porch, just ate some left over roasted chicken

Uniformly chocolate wrapper that feels smooth despite many small veins. Tobacco, faint barnyard. Draw is perfect, light is easy. Off the bat I get cumin without twang and a heavier feel than most Cubans. I wouldn't say it is a harshness but could be related to the youth of the stick. Earth and wood predominate over any grass/fruit/cocoa/etc in the first third.

The second third moves into a floral sweetness with a cedar finish. Medium to medium plus in flavor with medium strength and an average finish. At 2 inches the ash is hanging on but flaky and im preparing for it to land on my lap. There may be a faint twang but certainly not reminiscent of that classic slap ya taste. The smoke is cool and output is perfect and so is the burn. As the cigar progresses a dry mouth feel does as well. Hay and cream come into the picture, especially on the finish. Pepper is pronounced on the retro.

The ash is still hanging on at the band and a toasty graham with a dash of soap has shown itself throughout the past 4 puffs. And the very next puff the ash fell into my chin. Burn remains almost perfect which really surprised me as this cigar hasn't been acclimated. I double puff a few times to prevent a relight. The finish picks up an ash tray flavor and I slow down my pace.

Overall I was pleasantly surprised by this cigar. I wouldn't say it's complex but it has a lot of potential. I see this cigar as a great value and imagine that acclimation and age would really help it to shine. Total smoking time was about an hour and twenty minutes without any touch ups. I nubbed it.
USNGunner Offline
#28 Posted:
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I concur with gummy jones. Fired two up with my neighbor last night. Very good. Granted, I'm not he arbitrator of epic cigars, but it was a nice smoke that burned well all the way down to the nub. Very nice, especially given the price point. I'm putting these on the go to list.

A perfect "Would you like a cuban? for those that wouldn't get the significance of a Partagas Serie D No.4 or Siglo 2 to start with. :)
midmofan Offline
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Had my 3rd one outside this beautiful cool morning in a wooded nature trail area next to my Hotel with a double shot Americano coffee. I have to say each one I have had so far has been subtly different. Today's smoke was in between number one and number 2 as far as spiciness goes, but had more of the salt and savory flavor then the first. It was a perfect pairing with the coffee and the venue, Watching all of the birds and huge turtles meandering about. I was planning to do a little walking along the trail, but the cigar was too good to walk and smoke at the same time so I took a seat to fully enjoy it down to the nub.

Clearly my plan to smoke just a couple of these and put the rest away long-term is rapidly going by the wayside. Going to play say another order this morning for a second tin.
midmofan Offline
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Upon check out at the Ravi site, I was presented with one heck of an offer for a Box of 25 Party Shorts at $106. Never had a bad Party Short.
gummy jones Offline
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Nice review
midmofan Offline
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BIG thanks to the OP for turning me on to a cigar I would have never tried before. $4 for something that good? And thanks to that purchase, $4.24 for Party Shorts? Makes the overbids around this place even worse!
clintCigar Offline
#33 Posted:
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Nice! Just got mine in. Lookin forward to trying one.
frankj1 Offline
#34 Posted:
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looked like the deal on the tapados was over when I checked yesterday or the day before
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