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frankj1 Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 6:17 PM EST
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we go all in helping to "free" some populations when the people don't rise up on their own to be rid of oppressive government. usually does not end well.

Here's a situation to support the people who are risking their lives. Not suggesting to send troops, but how about a few words (or tweets) of encouragement for the people who prefer freedom, especially after having tasted it?
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#2 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 6:26 PM EST
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I hope not.... but think there will be a Tiananmen Square moment in Hong Kong, where China will use it's military to gain control...
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 6:28 PM EST
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China ain't about to allow this.
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#4 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 6:42 PM EST
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Good people on both sides and stuff.

Orange is the new idiot.
izonfire Online
#5 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 6:44 PM EST
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Evading oppression from the authoritarian regime in China???
Now that’s a slippery slope
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#6 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 6:47 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Evading oppression from the authoritarian regime in China???
Now that’s a slippery slope

such remote chance to win makes me admire them more.
if only we were a big world leader trying to conjure up the world's support.
deadeyedick Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 7:28 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I hope not.... but think there will be a Tiananmen Square moment in Hong Kong, where China will use it's military to gain control...


This.
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:11 PM EST
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the whole world is watching...?
Mr. Jones Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:18 PM EST
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It takes real B.A.L.L.S. TO STAND IN FRONT OF A MOVING & FULLY ARMED MANNED TANK.
izonfire Online
#10 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:23 PM EST
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If even a single Chinese National were to elude that tyranny -
That would be one very slippery slope indeed

(C’mon Frank, you can do this)
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:32 PM EST
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was under the impression that slope head was a slur for Vietnamese
izonfire Online
#12 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:45 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
was under the impression that slope head was a slur for Vietnamese


“Slope”
(Aus, UK, and U.S.) a person of Asian (in Australia, especially Vietnamese; in America, especially Chinese) descent.

Know your slurs dammit!
So frustrating...

(No offense intended. Deepest apologies to my Asian brothers and sisters, except for one Asian wannabe Latino)
frankj1 Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:47 PM EST
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"especially Vietnamese"
I am vindicated
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:47 PM EST
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"especially Vietnamese"
I am vindicated


in Australia
izonfire Online
#15 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:49 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
"especially Vietnamese"
I am vindicated


in Australia


We’ll send you there in a dingy from Pac’s island...
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:50 PM EST
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double thread outrage!
izonfire Online
#17 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 9:58 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
double thread outrage!


There’s some good fibers on both spools
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 10:17 PM EST
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true, true.
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 10:32 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
If even a single Chinese National were to elude that tyranny -
That would be one very slippery slope indeed

(C’mon Frank, you can do this)


maybe Trump will give asylum to all the people of Hong Kong who don't want to live under the Chinese authoritarian regime...empty the place of their best freedom loving and talented peeps as well as the Hong Kong markets...

the level of dim sum and other Chinese food in the US will jump dramatically...
izonfire Online
#20 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 10:36 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
the level of dim sum and other Chinese food in the US will jump dramatically...


And den sum!
gummy jones Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 8:58 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I hope not.... but think there will be a Tiananmen Square moment in Hong Kong, where China will use it's military to gain control...


agreed

we often transpose our own ideals on china, forgetting they are a heartless, communist regime
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#22 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 9:18 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
we go all in helping to "free" some populations when the people don't rise up on their own to be rid of oppressive government. usually does not end well.

Here's a situation to support the people who are risking their lives. Not suggesting to send troops, but how about a few words (or tweets) of encouragement for the people who prefer freedom, especially after having tasted it?



If only we had needed Saddam or the Taliban....or Ho Chi Minh, even... for a trade deal...lot of blood and treasure could have been saved

Hong Kong is part of China -- forget what you ever heard about two-party system or any of that nonsense -- China now has plenty of financial centers and modern ports -- no reason to think they aren't going to make Hong Kong submit one way or another.

Encouraging words or tweets would have little chance of moving towards peaceful and successful... outcome; and could likely do the opposite. I love Hong Kong...one of my favorite cities...but seems to me that we would be smart to stay well clear for now. Hopefully, we've been well clear since before the Umbrella stuff.
joeyjoejoejr314 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 11:49 AM EST
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[quote=dstieger]If only we had needed Saddam or the Taliban....or Ho Chi Minh, even... for a trade deal...lot of blood and treasure could have been saved

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