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Healthy Grass Fed Venison?
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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Since being on Keto, we've come to appreciate the health benefits of 100% grass fed pasture raised beef, pasture raised heritage pork and pasture raised chicken over factory farmed meats fed GMO grains and pumped full of antibiotics. Though I personally do not hunt, I come from a family of avid deer hunters. My sister was telling me how they fest all year long on healthy, grass fed venison. I'm starting to wonder if that's true.

My neighbor grows GMO feed corn. He soaks his fields with Roundup in the spring, plants his corn, and then half way through the growing season, soaks the fields and corn plants once again with Roundup. All spring and summer long I've watched dozens of deer feasting on his Roundup soaked GMO corn. First the growing plants, and then the grain. So, for about 5-6 months a year, the deer around here are ingesting Roundup, and then feeding on the same crap grain that factory farms feed their livestock. In fact, the vast majority of corn grown in this region is Roundup soaked GMO. It makes me wonder just how healthy some wild venison really is. Do you actually know what your venison is feeding on? Something to think about.

David
Whistlebritches Offline
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Yep...…..mostly grain,peanut hay and natural browse.Very little RU use in cattle country.I'm still trying to understand why corn would be soaked with RU???
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Liquid nitrogen maybe?
Speyside Offline
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Read up on how GMO wheat is finished. I don't eat bread.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Yep...…..mostly grain,peanut hay and natural browse.Very little RU use in cattle country.I'm still trying to understand why corn would be soaked with RU???


They don't plough. In the spring they spray the overgrown fields with Roundup. When the weeds and vegetation dies they come in and plant Roundup resistant GMO feed corn. Once or twice a season, depending on weed growth, they spray the entire feild, including the corn with Roundup. The weeds and vegetation dies but the resistant GMO corn continues to grow. The corn plant and developing ears are covered with Roundup, plus the plant sucks it up by their roots. This is how a lot of corn and soy is grown. The deer who eats these plants consume the Roundup. Of course Monsanto claims that Roundup can be safely ingested by humans. I think I'll pass.

David
frankj1 Offline
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corporations are people
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Read up on how GMO wheat is finished. I don't eat bread.


All grains where originally grasses that where meant to feed animals, until humans messed with them. Grains are highly inflametory. They also convert quickly to Glucose and spike insulin levels leading to insulin resistance and eventually diabetes and heart disease. Our family is currently grain free.

David
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
All grains where originally grasses that where meant to feed animals, until humans messed with them. Grains are highly inflametory. They also convert quickly to Glucose and spike insulin levels leading to insulin resistance and eventually diabetes and heart disease. Our family is currently grain free.

David

isn't that more the case when whole grain is stripped of the bran and fiber and stuff?
part of making it quicker to make oatmeal etc?

When whole grain is consumed, the carbs are absorbed much slower, avoiding the quick "sugar rush" and crash which causes craving for more carbs even if full. works even better if eaten with fats to slow the absorption.

something about the glycemic index and stuff.
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frankj1 wrote:
isn't that more the case when whole grain is stripped of the bran and fiber and stuff?
part of making it quicker to make oatmeal etc?

When whole grain is consumed, the carbs are absorbed much slower, avoiding the quick "sugar rush" and crash which causes craving for more carbs even if full. works even better if eaten with fats to slow the absorption.

something about the glycemic index and stuff.


I've heard that too, Frank. That's how it's suppose to work, but watch YouTube videos of folk testing their blood sugar after consuming white and whole grain bread. Many times the whole grain bread cause a higher insulin spike. Same with fruit. I saw someone test their fasting glucose leve!s after consuming two "healthy" bananas, and the next day consuming two Hershey bars. The banana spiked their glucose twice as high as the Hershey bars. Interesting stuff.

David
jespear Offline
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You guys are scaring me, as well as tearing apart my regular dietary menu. Scared
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jespear wrote:
You guys are scaring me, as well as tearing apart my regular dietary menu. Scared



Don't believe everthing you read. Beer
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frankj1 wrote:
corporations are people

Soylent Green is people.
Don’t think for a minute that there isn’t a capitalist out there
that would love to sell your body for food...
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izonfire wrote:
Soylent Green is people.
Don’t think for a minute that there isn’t a capitalist out there
that would love to sell your body for food...



Um, I've sold my body for beer! Beer

Wait. Is that wrong? Think
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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izonfire wrote:
Soylent Green is people.
Don’t think for a minute that there isn’t a capitalist out there
that would love to sell your body for food...


Not just capitalist, but the far left. Magus Suderlund, a far left Swedish professor has recently advocated that we need to start consuming human flesh in order to "save the planet". He is dead serious about it and has presented this idea at seminars. This is what lead up to the whole AOC "we have to eat babies" thing, except most of the media missed it, or just plain ignored the connection.

David


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A major problem with wheat is how it is finished
Just before harvest they spray it with roundup. This causes the wheat to create more grain. So when you eat ANY wheat in bread that is not organtic you are eating roundup.
deadeyedick Offline
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I stopped eating babies 'cuz they spike my glucose and stuff.
teedubbya Offline
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YouTube isn’t the place to learn about what spikes glucose and how.

There are plenty of scientific studies to help.

Frank you are correct. It has to do with processing previously and how your body processed them following as a result.

For example steal cut oats can help regulate your glucose levels where as the same grain highly processed will do the opposite.


That aside DP I agree with you to an extent on the op. especially about the round up use. I grew up in Iowa and spent a little time in the fields. I suspect at a minimum Monsanto is a contributor to my non Hodgkin lymphoma. They are much like the tobacco industry and except they have a very real argument that world wide many folks would die of starvation without them. Die now or die later sort of thing.
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We have 7.5 acres of food plots for deer. Plowed.

Fresh grain rye, clover , wheat, peas. The deer flock to it.

Not to mention the white and red oaks, green briar
And other natural forage.

Eatin Good!
Whistlebritches Offline
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Speyside wrote:
A major problem with wheat is how it is finished
Just before harvest they spray it with roundup. This causes the wheat to create more grain. So when you eat ANY wheat in bread that is not organtic you are eating roundup.



Definitely not a practice in my neck of the woods.Only spraying on wheat here is for early season green bugs,Oct-Dec.Wheat is usually dried out and ready to cut mid May to mid June...…...all naturally
Speyside Offline
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That is much much better, what I mentioned seems to be a common practice up North, I have seen it to many times.
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izonfire wrote:
Soylent Green is people.
Don’t think for a minute that there isn’t a capitalist out there
that would love to sell your body for food...

they can eat me.
frankj1 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
YouTube isn’t the place to learn about what spikes glucose and how.

There are plenty of scientific studies to help.

Frank you are correct. It has to do with processing previously and how your body processed them following as a result.

For example steal cut oats can help regulate your glucose levels where as the same grain highly processed will do the opposite.


That aside DP I agree with you to an extent on the op. especially about the round up use. I grew up in Iowa and spent a little time in the fields. I suspect at a minimum Monsanto is a contributor to my non Hodgkin lymphoma. They are much like the tobacco industry and except they have a very real argument that world wide many folks would die of starvation without them. Die now or die later sort of thing.

I'm like a genius
fishinguitarman Offline
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Well.......
fishinguitarman Offline
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Well.......
frankj1 Offline
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well what?
izonfire Offline
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He’s a deep thinker
frankj1 Offline
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I think he fell asleep at the keyboard.
be a nice feller and shut the lights on your way out.
izonfire Offline
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I’m picturing him snoozing in his full hand and footie rabbit suit...
frankj1 Offline
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better image than the Thonginator
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frankj1 wrote:
better image than the Thonginator

Good god yes!!!!!!
fishinguitarman Offline
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No way!
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