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tailgater Offline
#151 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
The racial aspect of lynching has been discussed in depth well before trump.
Check out "War of Words: The Controversy over the Definition of Lynching, 1899-1940" published in 2000.
It documents the efforts of various groups to come up with definitions for lynching so that they could properly develop statistics around it and determine how many were happening a year. It also documents interesting changes groups like the Klan made (either intentionally or unintentionally) to be able to kill blacks without it being defined as lynching (which brings up serious questions about the statistics around "4000 lynchings").

Just because you never thought of the term lynching as having racial connotations doesn't mean there aren't other groups which have had to live with the racial connotations of it.


I'm not talking about the racial aspect of lynching.
If I were asked the definition of the term "Lynch Mob", I would likely cite a black hanging as an example.
I understand this perfectly fine.

It's 2019.
Nobody is forming an actual Lynch Mob to chase down a black dude for looking at a white woman.
If the term Witch Hunt were used, would we hear from the Wiccas?
It's been warm in New England recently. When I was a kid we called it Indian Summer. Doesn't mean we hate those red-skinned scalpin' bastids any less. It's just that global warming has replaced the term. Otherwise Lizzy Warren would be heap big mad right about now.



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#152 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
I'm not talking about the racial aspect of lynching.
If I were asked the definition of the term "Lynch Mob", I would likely cite a black hanging as an example.
I understand this perfectly fine.

It's 2019.
Nobody is forming an actual Lynch Mob to chase down a black dude for looking at a white woman.

If the term Witch Hunt were used, would we hear from the Wiccas?
It's been warm in New England recently. When I was a kid we called it Indian Summer. Doesn't mean we hate those red-skinned scalpin' bastids any less. It's just that global warming has replaced the term. Otherwise Lizzy Warren would be heap big mad right about now.


As recently as 2013 (and probably earlier) people were recreating the lynching scenes with effigies of obama.

I looked it up, and the most recent actual lynching (only counting actual hanging lynchings...) in the US was in our lifetime (1981) and involved the Klan. He was lynched literally because a different black man was not convicted in the murder of a white policeman.

Hell, using your example, as recently as 1964 an african american was lynched for flirting with white women. That's withing many people here's lifetime. There are people in the US, alive, active, voting and in their mid 70s who were alive and actively supporting lynchings at that time. Similarly, there are people alive today who remember being 20 years old and afraid of being lynched for no reason. Pretending this is something that's way in our past is being ignorant.

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#153 Posted:
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I'm never buying Pace Picante sauce anymore... Not talking
victor809 Offline
#154 Posted:
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were you before? Eww.....
DrafterX Offline
#155 Posted:
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I heard Walmarts was better... Mellow
fishinguitarman Offline
#156 Posted:
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White folks just tried to lynch a white dude on gunsmoke!
DrafterX Offline
#157 Posted:
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It was the style at the time... Mellow
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#158 Posted:
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Now if I only said that Tail spinner. I am directly saying you are a racist for trying to spin Trumps usage of the word being OK.
tailgater Offline
#159 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
As recently as 2013 (and probably earlier) people were recreating the lynching scenes with effigies of obama.

I looked it up, and the most recent actual lynching (only counting actual hanging lynchings...) in the US was in our lifetime (1981) and involved the Klan. He was lynched literally because a different black man was not convicted in the murder of a white policeman.

Hell, using your example, as recently as 1964 an african american was lynched for flirting with white women. That's withing many people here's lifetime. There are people in the US, alive, active, voting and in their mid 70s who were alive and actively supporting lynchings at that time. Similarly, there are people alive today who remember being 20 years old and afraid of being lynched for no reason. Pretending this is something that's way in our past is being ignorant.



Have you ever in your life used the term Lynch Mob?

Was it in regards to an actual mob intent on lynching a black man?



tailgater Offline
#160 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Now if I only said that Tail spinner. I am directly saying you are a racist for trying to spin Trumps usage of the word being OK.


OK.


You can be wrong in lots of ways.
Some more dumb than others.

You choose this.

Carry on.



victor809 Offline
#161 Posted:
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Pretty sure I haven't. Unless I was describing an actual lynching, regardless of color. I suppose it's possible, given the many words I've used in my life (all the best words)... But I don't recall a situation where I would have.

It isn't the use of the word lynch mob. If there were an actual mob of people overwhelming the secret service and dragging Trump out to hang him, then I would see every reason for him to use the term lynch mob.

But for him... Someone who has actually attempted to form a real lynch mob... To then cheapen the term by referring to a very legal process as a lynching... It's really disrespectful.
tailgater Offline
#162 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Pretty sure I haven't. Unless I was describing an actual lynching, regardless of color. I suppose it's possible, given the many words I've used in my life (all the best words)... But I don't recall a situation where I would have.

It isn't the use of the word lynch mob. If there were an actual mob of people overwhelming the secret service and dragging Trump out to hang him, then I would see every reason for him to use the term lynch mob.

But for him... Someone who has actually attempted to form a real lynch mob... To then cheapen the term by referring to a very legal process as a lynching... It's really disrespectful.



I honestly can't believe this is even a discussion.

fishinguitarman Offline
#163 Posted:
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+1
Speyside Offline
#164 Posted:
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More meaningless Tail spinning. Do you ever say anything that isn't spineless drivel? Of course not, you just tell us how wrong we are about Trump because you say so. Why not defend yourself racist, I've called you out about 3 times and have yet to hear any logic about why I am wrong.
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#165 Posted:
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It was ok.
tailgater Offline
#166 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
More meaningless Tail spinning. Do you ever say anything that isn't spineless drivel? Of course not, you just tell us how wrong we are about Trump because you say so. Why not defend yourself racist, I've called you out about 3 times and have yet to hear any logic about why I am wrong.


Wow.
You're so in love with victor that you want Tail/Spey to be Victor/Rick part two.

Call me out?
LOL!

If you're driving down the road and some guy calls you an azzhole, do you go out of your way to explain to him you're not? No.
Because he doesn't matter.

Do the math.


Speyside Offline
#167 Posted:
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Rather, you can't call me out because I am correct you cretin.
fishinguitarman Offline
#168 Posted:
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Cretin? There is a plethora of cretins here! Wish I could be a Cretin. I’m just a lowly stalker 😩
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