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frankj1 Offline
#101 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
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teedubbya wrote:
So with ubl we trusted American political leadership but not a semi ally.

With this guy we didn’t trust Americans but did trust our enemies.

And no one is talking about the rushed timeline because of trumps idiotic Syria move.

I mentioned the rush when I said thanks for our military leaders who made it happen despite the sudden pull out.


edit:
it was a different thread
MACS Offline
#102 Posted:
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Sorry Frank, I disagree. Equal power or not, there was no need for them to know.

You can have 3 master chiefs on a ship, all with the same rank, but different jobs. They don't all need to know top secret information. The master chief of engineering doesn't need to know when the missile launch takes place. The master chief over operations does...

Sometimes the CO and the XO are the only ones that know anything up until moments before it happens. And when information is shared, the internet and cell service is shut down just prior and not turned back on until just after... on a ship full of people with clearances... but no need to know until it's time.

Confidential. Secret. Top Secret. Top Secret SCI.

We are taught that even if we share the same clearance, if you do not need to know, I should not tell you.
teedubbya Offline
#103 Posted:
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Congress needs to take back their power to declare war.
delta1 Offline
#104 Posted:
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wonder why the Russians needed to know...
frankj1 Offline
#105 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Sorry Frank, I disagree. Equal power or not, there was no need for them to know.

You can have 3 master chiefs on a ship, all with the same rank, but different jobs. They don't all need to know top secret information. The master chief of engineering doesn't need to know when the missile launch takes place. The master chief over operations does...

Sometimes the CO and the XO are the only ones that know anything up until moments before it happens. And when information is shared, the internet and cell service is shut down just prior and not turned back on until just after... on a ship full of people with clearances... but no need to know until it's time.

Confidential. Secret. Top Secret. Top Secret SCI.

We are taught that even if we share the same clearance, if you do not need to know, I should not tell you.

in your example there is never a danger of a shift in the balance of power written into the Constitution so as to prevent a dictator...just a whole different level of "need to know".

in my opinion, of course.

and Russia and Iran are backing the enemy of our side in Syria. Could have created us taking on fire...don't know that it didn't for that matter.
tailgater Offline
#106 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Previous similar operations included informing leaders of both parties as a courtesy. I don’t know why anyone would expect that from this turd.





To paraphrase: Trump is a turd (in part) because he doesn't extend courtesies. But when he does extend a courtesy he's a turd for doing it.



teedubbya Offline
#107 Posted:
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No that’s not what I said but your comprehension has really deteriorated over the years.

tailgater Offline
#108 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
No that’s not what I said but your comprehension has really deteriorated over the years.




Trump hasn't extended courtesies in the past. People were upset.
Trump extended a courtesy to Russia. People are upset.

If you meant something else with the statement I responded to, I'm all ears.
Explain it for me.
Use small words so we both can understand it.

frankj1 Offline
#109 Posted:
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not feeling that any of these categories would be called "Courtesies"

DrafterX Offline
#110 Posted:
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I heard Obama curtseyed to da Queen... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#111 Posted:
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I heard Obama curtseyed to da Queen... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#112 Posted:
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after he barfed into her crown
teedubbya Offline
#113 Posted:
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Lol tail. No I like it better this way.
tailgater Offline
#114 Posted:
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Fat, dumb and happy.

teedubbya Offline
#115 Posted:
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Don’t be so hard on yourself.

I was talking about your lack of comprehension and not getting it even when prompted.
tailgater Offline
#116 Posted:
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The old "I know you are but what am I?" retort.

Intelligent.

Yet not unexpected.

teedubbya Offline
#117 Posted:
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Just mimicking you’re orange hero. He’s the best at it.
tailgater Offline
#118 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Just mimicking you’re orange hero. He’s the best at it.


It's funny that you think Trump is my hero.

Again, predictable.
But funny nonetheless.

With that said, it's much cuter when you reply with the reversed insult as if it were your own.
But then again, I get to see you doing in real time.
I don't tweet. So I have to get Trumps tweets in here. From victor.
So it's already a day old and spewed over by the time it gets to me.




teedubbya Offline
#119 Posted:
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I’m rubber you are glue.

ZRX1200 Offline
#120 Posted:
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/10/31/ben-shapiro-offers-epic-response-to-wapos-absurd-request-for-comment-oh-dog-meme-n2555654

USA Today, NY Times, WaComPO all had epic melt downs over this meme.....hilarious how absolutely out of touch with reality these backwards are
tailgater Offline
#121 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I’m rubber you are glue.



Drats. Foiled again.

tailgater Offline
#122 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/10/31/ben-shapiro-offers-epic-response-to-wapos-absurd-request-for-comment-oh-dog-meme-n2555654

USA Today, NY Times, WaComPO all had epic melt downs over this meme.....hilarious how absolutely out of touch with reality these backwards are


The best part is how the left don't see it.
delta1 Offline
#123 Posted:
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it's funny how we've come to accept trolling by the POTUS...thank you Sir, for posting a fake photo, and when it is questioned, have your peeps say the people questioning it are insane...
tailgater Offline
#124 Posted:
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Crying
delta1 Offline
#125 Posted:
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I'm sorry...
ZRX1200 Offline
#126 Posted:
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He retweeted it because he appreciates that’s dogs service in action, as shown by him hosting the hero pooch. The is no “Medal of Pawner” with a paw on it.....maybe they could have at least looked like lesser fools and googled that bit. It’s amazing really you don’t see their stupidity Delta....memes are not some just now thing, they’ve been around a minute or two

He wasn’t trolling Al. They MADE IT A TROLL......that’s what makes this so ignorant
deadeyedick Offline
#127 Posted:
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Time for another whack a mole Think
delta1 Offline
#128 Posted:
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Whistlebritches wrote:
All true...…...now that being said you may want to read through this regarding your "Benghazi Myth" claim.There were assets available to deploy...…..They were instructed to "STAND DOWN" after being put on full alert.


https://fas.org/irp/congress/2013_hr/benghazi.pdf


I've read through the report...no statement that anyone was told to "Stand down," or called back...

Leon Panetta, Secretary of Defense: pp 12-13

"The reason simply is because with armed UAVs, AC–130 gunships, or fixed-wing fighters with the associated
tanking, you have to provide air refueling abilities, armaments—you have to arm all the weapons before you put them on the planes—targeting and support facilities were not in the vicinity of Libya. Because of the distance, it would have taken at least 9 to 12 hours, if not more, to deploy these forces to Benghazi."

"This was, pure and simple, in the absence, as I said, of any kind of advance warning, a problem of distance and time. Frankly, even if we were able to get the F–16s or the AC–130s over the target in time, the mission still depends on accurate information about what targets they’re supposed to hit, and we had no forward air controllers there. We had no communications with U.S. personnel on the ground. As a matter of fact, we had no idea where the Ambassador was at that point to be able to conduct any kind of attacks on the ground."

...‘‘The interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time, given the speed of the attacks, for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference. Senior-level interagency discussions were underway soon after Washington received initial word of the attacks and continued throughout the night. The board found no evidence of any undue delays in decision making or denial of support from Washington or from the military combatant commanders. Quite the contrary, the safe evacuation of all U.S. Government personnel from Benghazi 12 hours after the initial attack and subsequently to Ramstein Air Force Base was the result of exceptional U.S. Government coordination and military response and helped save the lives of two severely wounded Americans.’’


APPENDIX C—REPORT OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY REVIEW BOARD FOR BENGHAZI: pp 106-109

FINDINGS
In examining the circumstances of these attacks, the Accountability Review Board for Benghazi determined that:

1. The attacks were security related, involving arson, small arms and machine gun fire, and the use ofRPGs, grenades, and mortars against U.S. personnel at two separate facilities - the SMC and the Annex - and en route between them.
Responsibility for the tragic loss of life, injuries, and damage to U.S. facilities and property rests solely and completely with the terrorists who perpetrated the attacks. The Board concluded that there was no protest prior to the attacks,which were unanticipated in their scale and intensity.

2. Systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department (the "Department") resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place.

3. ...

The Board determined that U.S. personnel on the ground in Benghazi performed with courage and readiness to risk their lives to protect their colleagues, in a near impossible situation. The Board members believe every possible effort was made to rescue and recover Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith.

The interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference.

5. The Board found that certain senior State Department officials within two bureaus demonstrated a lack of proactive leadership and management ability in their responses to security concerns posed by Special Mission Benghazi, giventhe deteriorating threat environment and the lack of reliable host government protection. However, the Board did not find reasonable cause to determine that any individual U.S. government employee breached his or her duty.
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