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What wine you whinos drinking 1,000,000??
Speyside Offline
#1101 Posted:
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Darn, I wish their wines were distributed in Illinois. I think I would love them. Also, my customers rally appreciate unique boutique wineries that produce great wine. Now for a decent nights sleep, maybe I slept 8 hours combined in the Hospital between Thursday night and Friday night. Sometime it would be fun to tour your regions wineries with you!
frankj1 Offline
#1102 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Darn, I wish their wines were distributed in Illinois. I think I would love them. Also, my customers rally appreciate unique boutique wineries that produce great wine. Now for a decent nights sleep, maybe I slept 8 hours combined in the Hospital between Thursday night and Friday night. Sometime it would be fun to tour your regions wineries with you!

only one would survive
ZRX1200 Offline
#1103 Posted:
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Nonsense.....I’d gladly show you around .

I can only name a coupe BOTL here I wouldn’t.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1104 Posted:
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Schmidt Family Cab Franc while watching Colter Wall and now the Wood Bros
Speyside Offline
#1105 Posted:
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Frank, I enjoy debating with Z and certainly think he is one of the good guys. His point of view causes me to think and understand both his and my views better. He provides useful information for me to take into account. I occasionally change my point of view based on his thoughts on an issue. I am glad he questions my viewpoint ruthlessly. I know my laughing at him is not malicious, I think his laughing at me is not malicious. We would get along just fine.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1106 Posted:
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Well, I shared my cab franc with Barbara Wagner last night.

She was in the seat next to me and is the mayor of Mt Shasta......you could call her center left for the new left....she asked me about women’s liberation using clothing as an example (mind you she brought up politics not me, I just ate the dark chocolate she offered me) I told her I’m glad women feel safe to dress as they want but I don’t like societal/peer pressure for decision making. And that I personally love the female shape but do like a little left to the imagination. Was an interesting conversation with someone who didn’t want to state any positions while pointing things out. I wouldn’t vote for her but I’d certainly drink wine with her anytime. I knew we wouldn’t be BFF when I answered whom I thought Colter Wall reminded me of and I said “his songs remind me of Chris LeDoux” and she had no idea who he was.....maybe she look his music up now that we had our strangers in the night moment.
Speyside Offline
#1107 Posted:
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Didn't really know him untill he passed and Garth Brooks paid tribute to him in song. When I looked him up, listened to his music and learned of his career I was rather amazed.
frankj1 Offline
#1108 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Nonsense.....I’d gladly show you around .

I can only name a coupe BOTL here I wouldn’t.

totally confident you would...I was just stirring up stuff.
Speyside Offline
#1109 Posted:
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Are there any MA holes that don't???
izonfire Offline
#1110 Posted:
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Posts: 8,642
Speyside wrote:
You've got a lot of catching up to do.

So here is a few questions to see if you are even remotely close.

1) How many .........blah blah blah...............blah blah blah................


I didn’t have the heart to wait for too long before pumping out a response.
I raced home at a consistently rapid pace to pound this out to ensure an evenly allocated distribution.

So without skipping a beat, here it is -

When joining the forums here, my primary interest was of course the cigar experience. Of course.
But when I discovered the wine forum, I felt it incumbent upon myself to share my breadth of knowledge.
However, I soon discovered you to be the local connoisseur. This forum was your baby.
Out of respect for you and your limited expertise, I quietly bowed out.

I was recently brought back though from related subject matter in posts on other forums.
So I took another look...

After going through your questions and perusing a number of your posts,
I was flabbergasted. Befuddled. Stymied. Flummoxed. Bewildered. Perplexed. Aghast.
It seems we are living parallel lives Spey! Truly remarkable...

From the variety of experience, to your recommendations and analysis, I could see a younger me in your words.
I laughed to see the same mistakes, but was jubilant to see the same enthusiasm and thirst for knowledge.
Much of your advice and analysis is more than adequate. Some of it actually quite good!
I only saw serious mistakes in roughly 30% of your posts. But with it, I could see the evolution of someone who,
given perseverance and guidance, truly has a future in the business. You lack some of the subtleties of understanding
this fine art of the vine, but in time, I feel you do in fact have what's necessary to become a master.
It's important that you do not rush it though. Let it happen naturally. Organically.

In experience, knowledge, understanding and interpretation, the similarities are undeniable.
Whilst I am certainly more advanced than you, we are apparently on the same trajectory.
I am here to help you in any way that I can. In knowledge, advice, or just to share a moment along the way.
Do not be intimidated. Contact me any time I can be of assistance. This is exciting!

I am truly your amico della vite
IZON
____

Oh yeah, NEVER drink chamomile tea. It’s a palate killer.
Speyside Offline
#1111 Posted:
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O through Z 1 mistake Mueller Thurgau was the dominant white grape in Germany only through the mid eighties.

1 through N. 1 verbal mistake green pruning only, no attachment to whole cluster verbiage even though whole clusters are pruned.

1 mistake ancient Romans used airborne indiginous yeast. Not airborne indiginous yeast caught on bread.

1 non verifiable point beat sugar would have breen likely used in ancient greece to start a stuck fermentation, but I find no verification.

Shooting from the hip Izon. Not bad on my part. Ill give you the Roman thing and the Greek thing. The other 2 were mostly correct. So about 6 and 1/2 percent error. Any others you think are wrong research harder Izon, I am correct.
Speyside Offline
#1112 Posted:
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And you are welcome for the education about wine.
izonfire Offline
#1113 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
And you are welcome for the education about wine.


Is it your goal to intercept, absorb and destroy any information
that would give birth to an epiphany in the appreciation of wine? The feelings of joy? Of life?

Are you the contraceptive sponge to the life of understanding???
Speyside Offline
#1114 Posted:
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Run with that one. Good material potentially. There is a ton of accurate but useless information in my ramblings. Though I would look up mega purple and a few others, kind of interesting. Wines are for drinking, epiphanies are for religion.
izonfire Offline
#1115 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Wines are for drinking,


You spit those words out!

Speyside wrote:
epiphanies are for religion.


Epiphanies are religion free moments of clear vision. A mortal exaltation
Speyside Offline
#1116 Posted:
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My dog channels Ron Tin Tin. He is rather dogmatic in his principles. Glad he doesn't channel Lassie , what a biotch. This post thread has went to the dogs, and you sir are barking up the wrong tree. I imagine to be fair to all I should mention a really good wine. Bellefontaine Cabernet Sauvignon from the vin de pays de oc in southwest France. Rich, dark berry fruits, medium body with soft tannins. An absolute steal for $8.99/bottle. To me it is as good as many $40/bottle I have tasted recently. I think it is from Herault, but don't quite remember.
frankj1 Offline
#1117 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,211
neighbor came by and handed me a bottle of Broadbent Madeira Malmsey, 10 years old.
wonderful dessert wine...
port?
Spey?
SmokeMonkey Offline
#1118 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2015
Posts: 5,688
Spey - are you familiar with Les Volet? Unoaked French Chardonnay. Picked up a couple of bottles, and know I prefer French to California chard, but haven’t tried this one. Well priced so worth a shot.
Speyside Offline
#1119 Posted:
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No, I am not. But it's certainly worth a try. Inexpensive and good France chard, Novellum, le Croix, Louis Latour grand Ardeche.
SmokeMonkey Offline
#1120 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
No, I am not. But it's certainly worth a try. Inexpensive and good France chard, Novellum, le Croix, Louis Latour grand Ardeche.


Thanks for the recs. I’ll report back. Probably open one tomorrow
deadeyedick Offline
#1121 Posted:
Joined: 03-13-2003
Posts: 16,952
1997 Gallo Sanoma Barrelli Creek Vinyeard cab from the Alexander Valley - this was a very rich, unfiltered cab when released and has now become a port like wine.

Pulled this out of the Vinotemp to remember this area that is now experiencing wildfires in and around Healdsburg one of my favorite cities in the north Sanoma wine country.
SmokeMonkey Offline
#1122 Posted:
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2015 O’Shaugnessy Cabernet - really good, but not sure I would actually pay for it myself
frankj1 Offline
#1123 Posted:
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2016 Sansilvestro Dolcetto D'Alba Primaio

I don't know if I typed it correctly, but I like it.

what did I drink Spey? It was in the direction I've been seeking for reds. Not a huge mouthful of fruit forward heaviness...drier, still a touch more than the lightness I seek, but good.
and pretty sure it was in the $15 range, maybe less.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1124 Posted:
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Posts: 60,473
Ledger David tasting:

Blended white
Sangiovese
Cab Franc
Super Tuscan

Now enjoying a full glass of Cab Franc while renewing my membership with the new info...
ZRX1200 Offline
#1125 Posted:
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Bottle of Ledger David can franc eating pizza with family and watching football.
gummy jones Offline
#1126 Posted:
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Caymus 2009 private selection with my bride
ZRX1200 Offline
#1127 Posted:
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Yeah baby!
deadeyedick Offline
#1128 Posted:
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gummy jones wrote:
Caymus 2009 private selection with my bride


Never heard of that but special selection is great stuff. IIRC I have a few from 1996 left.
deadeyedick Offline
#1129 Posted:
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2017 Mollydooker The Boxer shiraz

My favorite down under winery in McLaren Vail
cacman Offline
#1130 Posted:
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Not supposed to drink carbonated beverages anymore, so I'm bleeding cheap wine.

A magnum of Kirkland Cabernet Sauvignon for $7.99,

Costco offers a ton of good wines, often 30% cheaper than the liquor store. And their Kirkland labels are pretty damn tasty for the price.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1131 Posted:
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Their generic French red is good.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1132 Posted:
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Gnarley 1924
Speyside Offline
#1133 Posted:
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2010 Domaine Lefleive Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Clavoillon, Puligny-Montrachet, Cotes du Beaune, Burgundy.
Numismaniac Offline
#1134 Posted:
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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


I haven't been looking at this tread for quite some time, LMAO!!!

Nothing better for a troll to see than a goober "sword fight", LOL

IZON and Spey, ya'll need to Kiss and make up, HEHE!

Oh, and BTW, I didn't go back to watch the whole fight, but if'n you don't know about Missouri saving the French wine regions in the 1800's, the both of you should be ashamed!!



Seems we Southerners are more likely to be sweet wine drinkers, so we don't generally fit in, seems to be the only thing that can fit in with GOOD corn moonshine. Although, I'm sure the larger cities, like Nashville, Atlanta, Birmingham, et al have some fine sommeliers. I was raised helping one of my Grandaddies with his wine making. That usually consisted of a trial period whist young. SO, I passed the test and got to go to the well-house and "punch down" the cap on his fermenting batch of whatever on a daily basis if I was spending some time at their place.


The farm where our place burned is just a half mile from a winery that was started by a British Gas Physicist/Engineer, he's the one that found that "Fire Ice", Methane Hydrate on the sea floor and determined that it wasn't quite worth the value to try and "mine". He had a famous Grandfather in Britain as well. Long story short, he had never made a drop in his life when he started, so I got to help him out on his first attempts. Some funny stuff, just hearing him learn, panic and all the other things that happen when starting a winery. Sadly he passed quickly from cancer in '16.

Here's his obituary and it gives some of his recognitions and lifetime achievements, as well as mentioning the winery.

https://www.sheltonfuneralhomes.com/obituary/3787317


As for me, I've made quite a few gallons over the years, have multiple 5 gal. glass carboys, airlocks, etc. But, I just don't really have the time for much of that nowadays. As well, my back can't handle all that work! I prefer "Eisweins/Icewines", Sweet ports and some good sweet muscadine.


Honestly, I did get to travel all over California, Sonoma area, Healdsburg, but the best IMHO is Temecula, mostly because it's not too commercial, small family wineries, some just a few acres on a hillside and more sweet wines than the Northern growers. Funny story, my wife has never seen me outright drunk, I can hide it well, hehe. But one travel day, we started out from Rancho Cucamonga, or as I liked to tease and say Rancho Cook-a-monkey, hehe. SO we hit Galleano winery first and then headed through Temecula. The fella that preferred me to be his navigator always treated us to ONE HELLUVA TRAVEL day! SO we then proceeded through Temecula, basically from one driveway to the next on our way to San Diego. By 6 pm CA time, which was 9 pm here in West TN, I called my wife, I had lost count of how many flights we had drank, as well as all the wineries we had hit, but it had to be at least ten and I was like a giggling school girl. She still likes to tell folks about that day/phone call, LMAO! I was pretty full of it, FOR SURE!

Now back to the regular show, LOL.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1135 Posted:
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Ledger David flight:

Chenin Blanc
Viognier
Sangiovese
Cab Franc

Paired with their meat and cheese plate. They added bread with olive oil and balsamic vinegar and took away the prosciutto and capicolla (3 cured meats now) not as good on the taste and texture standpoint.
frankj1 Offline
#1136 Posted:
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2018 Aime Roquesante Rose Provence wine

real crisp, very refreshing
ZRX1200 Offline
#1137 Posted:
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2017 Ledger David Primoris Chenin Blanc the only white wine I ever seek out, they had on sale for members mixed 2 bottles with 2 bottles of 2018 Viognier and that also made you eligible for a bottle of Cab Franc for $15....

The Blanc paired nicely with the menu my daughter decided, gnocchi with homemade garlic Alfredo sauce broccoli and sweet Italian sausage. And Naan.
jespear Offline
#1138 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2004
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2016 Joel Gott 815 Cabernet Sauvignon
cacman Offline
#1139 Posted:
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Kirkland Australian Malbec while waiting for crazy Nancy's head to explode during the State of the Union address.
cacman Offline
#1140 Posted:
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Apothic California Red
borndead1 Offline
#1141 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
Kirkland Australian Malbec while waiting for crazy Nancy's head to explode during the State of the Union address.



That stuff is surprisingly good.

Kirkland Malbec, not Pelosi.
frankj1 Offline
#1142 Posted:
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2016 Double Diamond Cabernet Sauvignon
Schrader Cellars, Oakville Napa Valley) CA

very nice with a medium rare rib eye, steamed sliced zuke, baked russet, big fresh salad.

Obviously dined alone tonight!
jespear Offline
#1143 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
2016 Double Diamond Cabernet Sauvignon
Schrader Cellars, Oakville Napa Valley) CA

very nice with a medium rare rib eye, steamed sliced zuke, baked russet, big fresh salad.

Obviously dined alone tonight!


I would have joined you . . . had I been asked.
I would have LOVED to taste that pricey wine !
ZRX1200 Offline
#1144 Posted:
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Ledger David Sauvignon Blanc
borndead1 Offline
#1145 Posted:
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Kirkland Old Vine Zinfandel. Blech. Too sweet.

Kirkland Malbec it is, then.
Speyside Offline
#1146 Posted:
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2015 Mari Vineyards Cabernet Franc, Traverse City, Michigan
frankj1 Offline
#1147 Posted:
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jespear wrote:
I would have joined you . . . had I been asked.
I would have LOVED to taste that pricey wine !

if you drank half that bottle, you would have rung up a bill of about $8.
Numismaniac Offline
#1148 Posted:
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Trazo Meadery Orange Blossom Mead Batch #3

Slightly drier than most meads and quite good.
USNGunner Offline
#1149 Posted:
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Catherman's port. A ruby from Blue Heron in Michigan. A truly amazing port.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1150 Posted:
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Ledger David 2016 Dark Night.
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