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MACS Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Dec 14 2019, 7:31 PM EST
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https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/starbucks-apologizes-uniformed-california-deputies-refused-service

What is it with Starbucks employees continually disrespecting police? I'm not much of a fan of their coffee... used to get it for free when my son worked there, but I prefer better coffee and I prefer it pressed, so they never got much business from me anyway.
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#2 Posted: Sat, Dec 14 2019, 7:47 PM EST
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About the only time i buy there is if I'm staying at a hotel with one.. and then it's only after i consume the coffee in my room.. i can't imagine these people still have their jobs... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Dec 14 2019, 8:25 PM EST
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I like Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf...
Abrignac Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Dec 14 2019, 9:07 PM EST
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No surprise. Look at it’s leadership for clues. They shut the all the stores for one day of diversity training after two black males were profiled. Yet, no training and barely an acknowledgement regarding the disrespect shown LEO’s.
tailgater Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Dec 14 2019, 10:12 PM EST
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How does this happen?
I'm in liberal Massachusetts and if my local SB did this they'd be run out of town.
Then where would I get my spent grounds for my flower beds?
rfenst Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 7:16 AM EST
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Hydrangia?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 10:31 AM EST
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Yeah, I mean what were the cops thinking even being in there? Don't they know their place is at the doughnut shop?
CelticBomber Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 11:27 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Yeah, I mean what were the cops thinking even being in there? Don't they know their place is at the doughnut shop?



This post should have it's own title.... How I learned to stop worrying about upsetting the popo and learned to love the body cavity searches!

You know the FBI and NSA are going to read this right?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 11:39 AM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:


You know the FBI and NSA are going to read this right?


They're too busy doing surveillance on Jonesy to care about anyone else here.
victor809 Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 12:57 PM EST
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The baristas have been put on paid administrative lead pending the outcome of the internal investigation.

(Joke not mine)
Gene363 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 2:26 PM EST
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So has this happened enough times to assume it is a corporate problem and not just individual (idiot) baristas?

If it is the corporation, they are in the same category as lunch counter operators that refused to serve blacks in the sixties.


FWIW, any business that turns down business should't be in business. Rest assured, I'm doing what I can to support the latter eventuality.
victor809 Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 2:41 PM EST
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... yes because a chosen profession is totally the same as a race.

Dumb false equivalence Gene.
Tittums Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 2:42 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
So has this happened enough times to assume it is a corporate problem and not just individual (idiot) baristas?

If it is the corporation, they are in the same category as lunch counter operators that refused to serve blacks in the sixties.


FWIW, any business that turns down business should't be in business. Rest assured, I'm doing what I can to support the latter eventuality.


I would argue it's more of a culture with Starbucks. They're left-leaning and justify it under the false narrative that all cops are racist and it is further aggravated by the fact that you can't punch a cop in the face even if he is a nazi.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate police so I do not believe they are racists or nazis but the left does. Someone has to protect the idiots who cannot or downright refuse to protect themselves.

I will never understand the left's hatred of cops. They want to take all the guns away yet hate the people they would allow to have guns.
Gene363 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 4:52 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
... yes because a chosen profession is totally the same as a race.

Dumb false equivalence Gene.


"Dumb" is not paying attention and jumping to a negative conclusion, but what else would I expect from you.

In both cases a business, in business to make a profit, is refusing service.
victor809 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 5:08 PM EST
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The missing out on profit isn't what's upsetting you though. And a profession one chooses is different than a race.

You want to make an accurate equivalence, then say it's as if Starbucks baristas refused service to employees of a slaughterhouse because they disapproved of the occasional videos of slaughterhouse employees mistreating animals.
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#16 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 5:30 PM EST
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Regardless of the leanings of the organization, they don't to my knowledge have a policy to refuse service to any profession, be they cops, taxidermists, hookers, etc. Therefore the baristas responsible should be subject to some form of discipline for making the rules up as they go
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 5:52 PM EST
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Correct SoB. After a full investigation and oversight by the baristas union, if their conduct is shown to be improper then they should be punished or transferred to another Starbucks or something.
Whistlebritches Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 10:50 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Correct SoB. After a full investigation and oversight by the baristas union, if their conduct is shown to be improper then they should be punished or transferred to another Starbucks or something.




Vicky must you be an antagonist in every controversial post pointing out liberal bias?I think it's quite obvious there are some leadership issues at SB's...……..this has happened too many times,it's not coincidental.
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 11:07 PM EST
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Tittums wrote:
I would argue it's more of a culture with Starbucks. They're left-leaning and justify it under the false narrative that all cops are racist and it is further aggravated by the fact that you can't punch a cop in the face even if he is a nazi.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate police so I do not believe they are racists or nazis but the left does. Someone has to protect the idiots who cannot or downright refuse to protect themselves.

I will never understand the left's hatred of cops. They want to take all the guns away yet hate the people they would allow to have guns.

thank God you have taken the role of explaining what (a little more than) half the nation thinks.
Are you also speaking for all conservatives too? Cuz the one or two I know think you sound wrong.
Tittums Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 11:12 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
thank God you have taken the role of explaining what (a little more than) half the nation thinks.
Are you also speaking for all conservatives too? Cuz the one or two I know think you sound wrong.


Just speaking my mind and for myself. I would be curious to hear what political leanings all of these anti-cop people have, I will admit bias as well. Probably another blue hair with piercings in funny places. It's not conservatives calling for violence against progressives or conservatives calling cops pigs.
victor809 Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 11:42 PM EST
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Yet you clearly said the left hates cops.

Sounds like you're speaking for them
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 11:47 PM EST
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Tittums wrote:
Just speaking my mind and for myself. I would be curious to hear what political leanings all of these anti-cop people have, I will admit bias as well. Probably another blue hair with piercings in funny places. It's not conservatives calling for violence against progressives or conservatives calling cops pigs.

In real life, I hope you continue to speak you mind and for yourself...but you kind of diverted a hair to assuming some stuff for liberals.

I am a liberal (duh) and do not know anyone who hates cops...kind of a bad jumping off point.
though I have probably heard the same amount of complaints about cops "unbridled power" from my con friends as my lib friends...sometimes from cons here.

So there's that, plus I'm am bitter and have nothing better to do than nit pick on a discount cigar forum.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 10:07 AM EST
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I believe the “Cop Block” crowd is more of an anarchist/left and or militant black thing by some. Maybe you’re linking the part of the left that likes to say things to be down with the struggle but not actively struggling.

I also LOVE Republicans that are bitching about the fourth amendment being dead now because of FISA abuses (which did happen) while they just voted to extend the “Patriot act” again.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll672.xml

Posted for your reading pleasure. My DemocRAT POS didn’t vote for it but my POS who’s leaving at the end of this term RepubliCANT did.

Now as far as the Charbucks crap? Consider that a societal issue which is probably more left leaning but the source is closer to narcissistic jackasses than just being a lefty. But then complicated answers require thinking it through which is hard with emotional issues at times.

https://youtu.be/U1mlCPMYtPk

^ you need it
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:55 PM EST
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Tittums wrote:
Just speaking my mind and for myself. I would be curious to hear what political leanings all of these anti-cop people have, I will admit bias as well. Probably another blue hair with piercings in funny places. It's not conservatives calling for violence against progressives or conservatives calling cops pigs.


Don't you dare generalize or you'll be accused of "speaking for all the left".

As if that's difficult.
tailgater Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:55 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Yet you clearly said the left hates cops.

Sounds like you're speaking for them



And sometimes the jokes just write themselves.
ZRX1200 Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 6:14 PM EST
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Well to be fair he posted so.......
xibbumbero Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 12:31 AM EST
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[quote=tailgater]And sometimes the jokes just write themselves.


Hmmmm...Kinda like you..Huh. X BigGrin
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 10:31 AM EST
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xibbumbero wrote:
[quote=tailgater]And sometimes the jokes just write themselves.


Hmmmm...Kinda like you..Huh. X BigGrin


Nah... tail doesn't write himself. He just regurgitates whatever he's told to say by the party.
tailgater Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 12:50 PM EST
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LOL!
Someone is projecting.
victor809 Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 12:54 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
LOL!
Someone is projecting.





Sounds like a party line right there.
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 5:03 PM EST
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Is that where several homes share the same phone number?
victor809 Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 5:04 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Is that where several homes share the same phone number?






Man, you're old.
delta1 Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 5:47 PM EST
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some Starbucks locations have been in the news for being unwelcoming to black customers...discrimination of any kind is repulsive...

this problem of discrimination could be a phenomenon of geography...the company doesn't have a monolithic employee pool...they have to hire people who apply, usually from the surrounding community...some areas may have a larger proportion of racists, others have cop-haters...

reminds me of the city I lived in before our current home...it was quite common to see 6-8 police cruisers parked at a Yum Yum Donut shop a few blocks from my house...there were several other donut shops in the city, but I never saw any police cars at any of them...turns out the cops got free coffee and half price off donuts...least robbed donut shop in town...
frankj1 Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 6:24 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Man, you're old.

he's really not, but he grew up in the little uncultured part of MA.
Before they got electricity, his family had to watch TV by candlelight.



(tip of the hat to my old man)
Tittums Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 6:38 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
he's really not, but he grew up in the little uncultured part of MA.
Before they got electricity, his family had to watch TV by candlelight.



(tip of the hat to my old man)


For some reason this just reminds me of the family guy episode where the raccoon in the broken TV jumps out and attacks peter as he believes he is watching a raccoon on actual TV.

Also, there is a Cheeto under the fridge.
delta1 Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Dec 19 2019, 6:57 PM EST
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musta been a huuge fridge...
victor809 Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 10:55 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
he's really not, but he grew up in the little uncultured part of MA.
Before they got electricity, his family had to watch TV by candlelight.



(tip of the hat to my old man)


That implies there is a cultured part of MA?
MACS Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 11:34 AM EST
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I think they left the cultured part back in Great Britain.
tailgater Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 11:41 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
some Starbucks locations have been in the news for being unwelcoming to black customers...discrimination of any kind is repulsive...

this problem of discrimination could be a phenomenon of geography...the company doesn't have a monolithic employee pool...they have to hire people who apply, usually from the surrounding community...some areas may have a larger proportion of racists, others have cop-haters...

.



When a black man was discriminated against the corporation closed down all their shops and held a workshop on diversity.

Nobody is talking about the individuals abhorrent behavior. It's the culture from the top that is despicable.
frankj1 Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 11:42 AM EST
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37 & 38...

MA jealousy makes strange bedfellows


HA!
tailgater Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 11:42 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
I think they left the cultured part back in Great Britain.


Dude.
When I flush it goes south to RI.
tailgater Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 11:43 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That implies there is a cultured part of MA?


I mean, it's no Missouri, but we hold our own.
victor809 Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 12:02 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I mean, it's no Missouri, but we hold our own.



Fair point. Missouri wouldn't win a culture contest with west virginia.
MACS Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 12:33 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Dude.
When I flush it goes south to RI.



What's your point? I never said RI had any culture. I left that place and never plan to return, except maybe to visit for some stuffies and clam cakes.
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#45 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 1:08 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
What's your point? I never said RI had any culture. I left that place and never plan to return, except maybe to visit for some stuffies and clam cakes.

mmmmmmmmmmm, I could go for some Rocky Point Pavilion clam cakes with malt vinegar right about nowDrool
frankj1 Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 1:11 PM EST
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Point Judith calamari...

does that have a sexual connotation?
MACS Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 1:16 PM EST
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Ya know... what they lack in culture they more than make up for in good food and forestry. I do believe that 60% of that state is still trees... which makes for some good air quality... so there is that.
frankj1 Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 3:23 PM EST
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it's a very nice State
Abrignac Offline
#49 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 9:02 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
The baristas have been put on paid administrative lead pending the outcome of the internal investigation.

(Joke not mine)


Is that similar to Jamie’s internal massage?
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#50 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 9:20 PM EST
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RI Red sure had Foghorn’s number and always scored the chicks.
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