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Abrignac Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jan 26 2020, 11:06 PM EST
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Been dealing with sinus congestion and headaches for about 4 days. In the midst of a bad headache I took off to Walgreens to get one of those plastic bottles that come with the salt packets so I could flush my sinuses. Used to have one but, I can’t find it.

So I squirted about 1/3 of a cup up each side. I’ve used them before so I knew I’d have vertigo for a few minutes afterwards. I felt like I was in the matrix. Seems I was rotating on a least 4 axis at the same time. I grabbed the countertop and hung on for what felt like an eternity when in reality it was a minute or so. But, my headache is gone so it was worth the magic carpet ride.
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jan 26 2020, 11:13 PM EST
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Wow now I want one.
USNGunner Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Jan 26 2020, 11:25 PM EST
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Your salt packets are much better than the ones they sell here! Holy cow!
MACS Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 12:00 AM EST
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Niel Med Sinus Rinse. I use it whenever I get a sinus infection, but it has never done that to me.
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 12:50 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
Niel Med Sinus Rinse. I use it whenever I get a sinus infection, but it has never done that to me.


That’s the one I use.
izonfire Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 8:05 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Been dealing with sinus congestion and headaches for about 4 days. In the midst of a bad headache I took off to Walgreens to get one of those plastic bottles that come with the salt packets so I could flush my sinuses. Used to have one but, I can’t find it.

So I squirted about 1/3 of a cup up each side. I’ve used them before so I knew I’d have vertigo for a few minutes afterwards. I felt like I was in the matrix. Seems I was rotating on a least 4 axis at the same time. I grabbed the countertop and hung on for what felt like an eternity when in reality it was a minute or so. But, my headache is gone so it was worth the magic carpet ride.

Sounds like you were just looking for an excuse to snort bath salts.
Be careful. And don’t chew nobodies face off...
Cathcam13 Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 8:49 AM EST
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Wow, be careful out there, if you get an uncontrolled urge to eat your boss’s face, I suggest seasoning it first. 😂🤣😂
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 12:35 PM EST
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Used niel sinus for years, there is a better system at vitamin shoppe that is like a giant syringe. I now use navage and love it. Got it 50% off.
delta1 Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:00 PM EST
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still use my trusty neti pot and Neil Med Saline Sinus rinse packets...

wonder if abrignac's vertigo is caused by the rinsing liquid getting into his inner ear?
Numismaniac Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:13 PM EST
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Glad you're doing better, sounds rough, especially the 4 day headache.

I've fought sinus problems most of my life. Constant drainage, etc. After the lung full of blood clots, I was put on an Advair Diskus, Singulair and a Flonase sniffer every day. I told my doctor I knew he was just trying to keep me on steroids. Such is my life.
tamapatom Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:16 PM EST
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Sinus buster- active ingredient cayenne extract........will hit you hard but will clear you out.
delta1 Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:37 PM EST
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Numismaniac wrote:
Glad you're doing better, sounds rough, especially the 4 day headache.

I've fought sinus problems most of my life. Constant drainage, etc. After the lung full of blood clots, I was put on an Advair Diskus, Singulair and a Flonase sniffer every day. I told my doctor I knew he was just trying to keep me on steroids. Such is my life.


I've also suffered from sinus problems my entire life...few years ago, had surgery for deviated septum and turbinate bone reduction which helped somewhat...but symptoms slowly returned, but not as severe...

best thing was not replacing our cats when they died...

living in smoggy SoCal is the issue...have to take Flonase and a steroid inhaler daily...
teedubbya Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:40 PM EST
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Try alkalol. It’s an essential oil based rinse that opens things up.
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:42 PM EST
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You gave up on da saltwater enemas..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:45 PM EST
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Still do em but have a battery driven system now
Numismaniac Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:49 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Try alkalol. It’s an essential oil based rinse that opens things up.


Thanks, TW,
Haven't seen that locally, but may have to give it a try during the terrible tree pollen season in the early Spring. The worst time for me is when they spray the crop defoliant around here in the last summer/fall. That stuff is poison!!! Little, if anything helps while that stuff is in the air. I have a highly sensitive and discerning palate, I can smell the stuff from miles away. Wife finally learned to believe me, she can barely smell it. Although one rate last two years she has become more aware of the smell and admits it's a pain in the head!
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:53 PM EST
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you used to live here in SoCal, Numi...did the smog make things worse for you?

I ask because my symptoms seem to improve somewhat when I vacation in Hawaii, where the prevailing winds blow the smog away...
Numismaniac Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 1:57 PM EST
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I only "lived there" a few weeks at a time, when I was traveling all over the COUntry with that buying group. Although when you stay in CA for a few months out of a year, it's almost the same as living there, AND Yes, I definitely had more drainage, headaches, etc. Especially when we would be in Culver City, right next to the 405!!!
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 2:00 PM EST
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massive parking lot masquerading as an interstate highway...
Gene363 Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 2:33 PM EST
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Sinus problems are a pain. I have allergies, get two shots every two weeks, it has helped a ton, but... I also get migraines and migraines symptoms often present as sinus problems.

I know of a surgeon that used to do sinus roto-router surgeries and got into migraine management because too many patients got no relief from the surgery, their problem was actually migraines.
MACS Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 2:52 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
massive parking lot masquerading as an interstate highway...


Which freeway in SoCal does that NOT describe?
delta1 Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 5:09 PM EST
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I STAND corrected
MACS Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 5:19 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I STAND corrected


Well... not if you're on the freeways... you're sitting... impatiently... wanting to f***ing kill people.

Or is that just me?
Cathcam13 Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 5:24 PM EST
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Sounds like Portland Oregon during rush hours......
clintCigar Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 6:08 PM EST
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What brand is this? I like adventures.
delta1 Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 6:21 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Well... not if you're on the freeways... you're sitting... impatiently... wanting to f***ing kill people.

Or is that just me?


retirement will help you with that...
chazbo Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 6:28 PM EST
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Grab a bottle of saline solution and add 10 drops of tea tree oil to it. Shake well and then good to go. Spray as needed.
MACS Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 6:44 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
retirement will help you with that...


Only if I get a gig in a 10 mile radius... oil change jockey?
Whistlebritches Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 8:37 PM EST
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I used Sinus Buster for several years then suddenly I cleared up...….not completely but say 98.2%.It seems SB is no longer available but a replacement called "Nasol" is supposed the exact same ingredients which are all natural.It's made from capsaicin extract so the first couple uses will snap your neck back...…...but it works and that's what matters.

Now days my sinus issues are very minor...…..I keep a sports bottle in the shower and when needed I fill it with a little sea salt and warm water,one helluva sinus flush.
Abrignac Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 9:20 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Well... not if you're on the freeways... you're sitting... impatiently... wanting to f***ing kill people.

Or is that just me?


Or stopping to take a piss
Abrignac Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 9:25 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
I used Sinus Buster for several years then suddenly I cleared up...….not completely but say 98.2%.It seems SB is no longer available but a replacement called "Nasol" is supposed the exact same ingredients which are all natural.It's made from capsaicin extract so the first couple uses will snap your neck back...…...but it works and that's what matters.

Now days my sinus issues are very minor...…..I keep a sports bottle in the shower and when needed I fill it with a little sea salt and warm water,one helluva sinus flush.



The adventure last night did the trick. Was completely clear when I woke up. Been good to go sense. It’s nice that the magic carpet ride had a happy ending. I’d hate to have had the experience without the benefits. Kinda like 🍄 tea. IIRC it tasted like hyena ass but the ride was definitely worth it.
delta1 Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 9:45 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Or stopping to take a piss


Beer

or


whip


that is quite a memory...three/4/5 minutes?


"tasted like hyena ass"???
ZRX1200 Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 9:47 PM EST
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Snort wasabi powder.

Clear ya right up with a righteous nose-gasm
Numismaniac Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Jan 27 2020, 10:06 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Which freeway in SoCal does that NOT describe?



EXACTLY!
madspackler Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, Jan 28 2020, 4:31 PM EST
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I have suffered from severe sinus issues for years - ever since I lost a collision at home plate (catcher) in high school and had my nose broken in 4 spots along with a broken collar bone and concussion. Fast forward 40 years and I had to have surgery to correct the deviated septum and crushed sinus cavities. I use the NeilMed sinus rinses every day and twice a day during allergy season. My Doc has also perscribed a capsule (budesonide/mometasone) that I add to the rinse in the morning that helps reduce swelling.
Be sure to heat the distilled water in the microwave to warm it beforehand - helps reduce the shock from cold water. The rinse works wonders - you might be amazed by what junk comes out the first few times you do it.
And just like your humidor, only used distilled water.
teedubbya Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Jan 28 2020, 9:07 PM EST
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Yup. Distilled only or risk brain eating critters.

Don’t use kitty litter either.
MACS Offline
#37 Posted: Tue, Jan 28 2020, 9:41 PM EST
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Distilled water is not uncomfortable at all. Bottled water kinda burned... never used tap.

The instructions tell you to use distilled water.
Abrignac Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, Jan 28 2020, 9:57 PM EST
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madspackler wrote:
I have suffered from severe sinus issues for years - ever since I lost a collision at home plate (catcher) in high school and had my nose broken in 4 spots along with a broken collar bone and concussion. Fast forward 40 years and I had to have surgery to correct the deviated septum and crushed sinus cavities. I use the NeilMed sinus rinses every day and twice a day during allergy season. My Doc has also perscribed a capsule (budesonide/mometasone) that I add to the rinse in the morning that helps reduce swelling.
Be sure to heat the distilled water in the microwave to warm it beforehand - helps reduce the shock from cold water. The rinse works wonders - you might be amazed by what junk comes out the first few times you do it.
And just like your humidor, only used distilled water.


I had my sinuses Roto-Rootered about 5 years ago. My Dr. had me buy the NeilMed solution and use it 3x a day. It was so cool blowing out all the blood clots. Cindy and I flew to spend a weekend my sister and her family. I asked my 6 year old nephew if he wanted to watch something cool. He said yes so I told him to come by the sink and watch my nose. As soon as he had a good vantage point I squirted about half a bottle up one side. Of course blood cloths came out the other side. He got grossed out. Oh well.

Whistle
teedubbya Offline
#39 Posted: Tue, Jan 28 2020, 11:06 PM EST
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With the navage it captures what comes out so you can get a good look.
Gene363 Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 10:38 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
I had my sinuses Roto-Rootered about 5 years ago. My Dr. had me buy the NeilMed solution and use it 3x a day. It was so cool blowing out all the blood clots. Cindy and I flew to spend a weekend my sister and her family. I asked my 6 year old nephew if he wanted to watch something cool. He said yes so I told him to come by the sink and watch my nose. As soon as he had a good vantage point I squirted about half a bottle up one side. Of course blood cloths came out the other side. He got grossed out. Oh well.

Whistle


This is what a proper Uncle does. ThumpUp
Whistlebritches Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 1:51 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Yup. Distilled only or risk brain eating critters.



Brain eating critters only exist in tap water from Flint Michigan.

But seriously if this were true just think what this water would do if you drank it.If you ever wake up with amoebic dysentery believe me you'll remember exactly where you got it.

delta1 Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 2:26 PM EST
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distilled water??? I've been using warm tap water with the Neil Med saline rinse and neti pot...

hmmmmmm...explains some things...
teedubbya Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 2:31 PM EST
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May want to look in to it. It's a different critter than what attacks your gut. I used to use tap water too. Then I read a few things. I only have limited brains as it is.
teedubbya Offline
#44 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 2:36 PM EST
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https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(18)34525-9/pdf


Fatal Balamuthia mandrillaris brain infection associated with
improper nasal lavage


rare but you don't want any of it. Near 100% fatality
Gene363 Offline
#45 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 3:09 PM EST
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"Distilled Water", the typical water you buy as distilled is not heat distilled and not sterile. They use reverse osmosis and or ion exchange resins to remove all the minerals from the water. It's fine for irons, but should not be considered sterile.
teedubbya Offline
#46 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 3:24 PM EST
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I'm no expert but I do think it's good enough to remove the brain eating bug. I think some filters can too. I used to have a cvs branded nasal rinse bottle with a built in filter allowing you to use tap water (I didn't).

I just use distilled and my navage and if it eats my brain its my time LOL
USNGunner Offline
#47 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 3:30 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
"Distilled Water", the typical water you buy as distilled is not heat distilled and not sterile. They use reverse osmosis and or ion exchange resins to remove all the minerals from the water. It's fine for irons, but should not be considered sterile.


I think you're confusing "purified water" with distilled water. Distillation is a process. I would not call distilled water sterile though regardless.

Walmart and most drug stores also sell sterilized water, which is in fact sterile.
victor809 Offline
#48 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 3:36 PM EST
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If they use RO it's sterile. Pore size on an RO filter is smaller than the diameter of viral particles. Standard RO purification is used for injectable products from pharma.
Ion exchange is much different than RO and should not be lumped in together. Perhaps you are confusing purified water with deionized water? DI water is different than purified and you generally use DI water for chemical experiments. DI water is achieved after passing water across ion exchange resins and does not actually say anything about the purification.

Bottom line - RO is generally considered more sterile than heat distilled. DI is not RO, but water can be both purified and then deionized if necessary.
MACS Offline
#49 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 3:38 PM EST
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US Navy ships have pretty much gotten away from flash distillers/evaps and have gone to RO purifiers.

RO's are much more efficient and don't break down as much.
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#50 Posted: Wed, Jan 29 2020, 3:42 PM EST
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RO may be energy efficient (I honestly don't know if it is or is not).... but they are a huge waste of fresh water. The amount of water waste used in flushing the RO membranes is huge. Maybe there's a lot of waste in distillation as well? I don't know.... I just remember being shocked at how much water was sent to drain (in California no less!) to create RO purified water.
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