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My buddy SNAGGED a pallet full of N95 PARTICULATE MASKS ...
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Mr. Jones Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Feb 12 2020, 11:07 PM EST
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Think

And is making a $$$ killing on Ebay...

Smart guy....

Gotta go find some N95's...

still have 2-3 ? Boxes of N99 silver particle masks from the SARS SCARE a decade ago... Up to
Palama Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Feb 12 2020, 11:32 PM EST
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One of my nephews works at place that sells these. Retail price is $45 for a box of 10. Couple weeks ago he said Chinese nationals were coming in and buying multiple boxes to send back to China.
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Feb 12 2020, 11:43 PM EST
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Im not making a killing.....
USNGunner Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 12:30 AM EST
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Palama wrote:
One of my nephews works at place that sells these. Retail price is $45 for a box of 10. Couple weeks ago he said Chinese nationals were coming in and buying multiple boxes to send back to China.



That's happening here in fly over country too. That is why there are none to be had. This is a case of you snooze you lose. Not talking
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 12:52 AM EST
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Will trade a mask for any rare OpusX
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 1:14 AM EST
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Thank god for capitalism and stupid people.

N95 masks trap 95% of particles 0.3 microns and larger.

The corona virus is 0.17 microns.
delta1 Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 1:17 AM EST
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d'oh!
Cathcam13 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 1:51 AM EST
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That’s what carbon filters are for. They snag practically everything out of the air larger than.05 microns. I have to have a half face respirator for work. The guys on the floor can get away with using the N-95’s, but us line operators have to use the higher rated ones, due to Chromium in our disks.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 2:07 AM EST
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That's not exactly how carbon masks work.

BTW, what kind of operation do you work for that allows your employees to be knowingly exposed to these hazards while you big shots get better masks? Just curious for an OSHA friend....
tamapatom Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 5:53 AM EST
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Florida has a law that says you cant price gouge during an emergency hurricane situation in order to stop scalping. Selling water, food, plywood or tarps for exorbitant prices, etc. If the virus became an emergency here I wonder how scalpers would be looked upon.
USNGunner Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 9:55 AM EST
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tamapatom wrote:
Florida has a law that says you cant price gouge during an emergency hurricane situation in order to stop scalping. Selling water, food, plywood or tarps for exorbitant prices, etc. If the virus became an emergency here I wonder how scalpers would be looked upon.



What? I'd be careful referring to "scalping" around Florida man(or wimmens)! Might plant a seed nobody wants! Anxious d'oh!
teedubbya Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 10:43 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Thank god for capitalism and stupid people.

N95 masks trap 95% of particles 0.3 microns and larger.

The corona virus is 0.17 microns.



This.

The only caveat is the virus often is attached to mucus or other larger particles that can't get through the mask. And while the actual microns are not definitive yet (to my knowledge), and will vary anyway .17 may be on the high end. They are typically .1-.2 so its in the ballpark but it could be .1 or smaller.

But still.... This
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 11:06 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
This.

The only caveat is the virus often is attached to mucus or other larger particles that can't get through the mask. And while the actual microns are not definitive yet (to my knowledge), and will vary anyway .17 may be on the high end. They are typically .1-.2 so its in the ballpark but it could be .1 or smaller.

But still.... This


Didn't realize it was that small.

(PHRASING)

I have to deal with making sure people wear the right masks for our mill room and certain other processes, I forgot about the mucus thing for medical.

Thanks.
teedubbya Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 11:09 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Didn't realize it was that small.

(PHRASING)

I have to deal with making sure people wear the right masks for our mill room and certain other processes, I forgot about the mucus thing for medical.

Thanks.



You were dead on. .17 is right between .1 and .2 you are right. I was just saying it could be even smaller.... other than the booger thing
victor809 Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 11:33 AM EST
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I didn't realize this was that small a virus. Most viral particles are stopped by a .22u filter. This one's tiny.

But yeah, for person to person (sneezing/breathing) this is going to be on larger particles.

Do we know how long it can live on surfaces? Because that can easily make masks irrelevant.
teedubbya Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 11:42 AM EST
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To my knowledge I don't think we do on the surface time. I'm no expert, I just happen to get CDC notices which are public. I think the .1 to .2 range is pretty typical for this type of virus and the size of this one is assumed to be in that range.... thus could be smaller or larger than .17. That said the CDC seems to be tight lipped on some things. I would think they would know average size specific to this one by now. But I sure don't see it.
dstieger Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 12:11 PM EST
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If anyone has confidence in surface time, it doesn't appear to be public yet. I've heard 96 hrs, but I've also heard an 'expert' claim it could be 10 days, though that seems pretty unlikely.

It is a good question that I haven't heard asked enough
victor809 Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 12:14 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I think the .1 to .2 range is pretty typical for this type of virus and the size of this one is assumed to be in that range.... thus could be smaller or larger than .17..


I just remember doing .2u filtration of solutions in lab to ensure it was bacteria and viral free.... so I thought most viruses were larger. Maybe I need to look again.
victor809 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 12:19 PM EST
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Huh.... now I'm reading viruses are usually smaller than 0.2u, I wonder if we just didn't care about viral size and were focused on bacteria. **** that was over 20 years ago, so I can't remember anything
USNGunner Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 12:20 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
If anyone has confidence in surface time, it doesn't appear to be public yet. I've heard 96 hrs, but I've also heard an 'expert' claim it could be 10 days, though that seems pretty unlikely.

It is a good question that I haven't heard asked enough


I saw a report of 21 day incubation and 9 days viability on surfaces.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463
Numismaniac Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 12:40 PM EST
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fog

COUGH COUGH

Sounds like my regular Dr that I see very three months, I could hear him in the hallway saying he had pneumonia as he's entering my room yesterday. He could barely get a deep breath and was coughing off and on through my regular visit. We bumped elbows on the way in, but he shook my hand on the way out, LOL! Luckily there's a sink and shop in each exam room.

Once again size matters, hehe!

As for life on various surfaces, that's still a guess or "SWAG" shot. (Scientific Wild AZZ Guess)


Wife said they got the same CDC report at her clinics and being she is the Nurse Educator, she has to be informed.

Me, I normally just it here looking like this and I don't do a great deal of public interaction.

Needless to say, I will just hope that the majority of this situation has run it's course before the first of July. I'm gonna have to travel to Mexico for our youngest daughter's wedding in Riviera Maya. At least I can take my own cigars and there's plenty of spaces at the all inclusive resort to smoke one, says they even have a cigar bar, but I'm not gonna risk or pay for something that I have on hand and are well aged already.

I'm still a bit disappointed that Jonesy hasn't gone off on a "so called" Chinese engineered virus. It's germ warfare out there folks!
Speyside Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 1:02 PM EST
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The Chineese economy is crashing. The country is in dissaray. They are not telling the truth or letting the WHO or CDC in. Are you sure the conspiracy should be about Chineese biological weapon engineering? Any number of countries would benefit from a Chineese economic crash, just saying.
teedubbya Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 2:02 PM EST
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New addition to our earthquake machine?
frankj1 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:10 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I didn't realize this was that small a virus. Most viral particles are stopped by a .22u filter. This one's tiny.

But yeah, for person to person (sneezing/breathing) this is going to be on larger particles.

Do we know how long it can live on surfaces? Because that can easily make masks irrelevant.

they laughed, some gagged, when I smeared my counter tops with snot...
but I just told them, I'm like a genius.
Mr. Jones Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Feb 13 2020, 8:23 PM EST
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So many people around central PA have had pneumonia and walking pneumonia it isn't funny...and I was almost one of them...
Sick as a dog for 4 solid weeks, fever for days, coughed all night long , luggies and snot galore...
Stomach muscles hurt like hell for weeks from coughing...
Finally over it...rest , fluid, doxycycline for 10 days.
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