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Obamagate
Buckwheat Offline
#1 Posted:
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I have a question for all the Trump supporters and anyone else here.
What exactly is Obamagate?
Is there credible evidence that Obama’s administration committed crimes? I’m seriously interested in finding out what Trump is talking about. fog
Dg west deptford Offline
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Weaponizing the FBI to investigate a political rival, paying foreign nationals to create false evidence to justify spying, creating perjury traps, deceiving courts with known fabrications. They knew if they didn't stop Flynn he would have easily discovered all this malfeasance so they destroyed him through the grievous threat of attack on his children. But you certainly know all this as as much as whoopi does but it doesn't matter.
Let me ask you a question, do you think Barrack Hussein O. Was saying "do it by the book" because he was unaware of all this slimy shameful deception on the American people? Failed Coup attempt exposed to all but not even the turtle cares.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Seriously?

During all of the Russia Russia Russia, and Mueller Report I know I've been vocal that the websites I read had it all correct and it was all proven to be as well.

Dan Bongino, Sara Carter, and even Sean Hannity all had it starting in the Oval Office and spreading out weaponizing intelligence agencies and the AG. The material is all here and at their own websites but I doubt that anyone will go to them, listen to them or even bother because the damage is done and you either drank the koolaid or you didnt. I really wish people would be open to gathering info from opposing viewpoints but I see the same people doing the same things.

Maybe you're a trendsetter.
tonygraz Offline
#4 Posted:
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Buckwheat wrote:
I have a question for all the Trump supporters and anyone else here.
What exactly is Obamagate?
Is there credible evidence that Obama’s administration committed crimes? I’m seriously interested in finding out what Trump is talking about. fog



It is a mutation of Cofefe caused by taking hydrocholoquine and bleach subcutaneously.
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted:
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I know he’s too lazy to open any gate, he just owns it.
teedubbya Offline
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not even to get a pizza at that one place?
Mr. Jones Offline
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If ?????

Any of you HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT
THAT MUDEROUS PRIIIICCCKKKKK
OBAMA...

LET ME REFRESH YOUR MEMORY...

HE AND BIDEN "GREENLIGHTED" my sorry azzzz
Out to COMEY during a OCCIDENTAL Grille dinner table gathering in 2013/14...
(All three are premeditated first degree murderers)

Why diiiick around with FLYNN CRAP...

I'M POSITIVE, I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE... THEY ALL 3 TRIED TO OFF....

INVESTIGATING BY congressional hearing of THE ENTIRE FBI WILL BE A FREE- FER -ALL
OF CONVICTIONS FOR HUNDREDS ( IF NOT THOUSANDS) OF CRIMINALS...
delta1 Offline
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Obamagate hoax pushed by the same people who were positive Hillary killed Seth Rich and was running a child sex trafficking ring out of the basement of a DC pizza joint...both fake news stories that have been proven false...but still believed by a significant number of cons...

alt-right conspiracy theorists at 4Chan, InfoWars, Breitbart and the like are considered trustworthy news sources by many cons who don't care if they're fooled, and remain believers even when those theories are debunked...they have to have reasons to believe that there is a justification to hate some people beyond their political beliefs


as for Obamagate, all you need to know is that Trump's personal legal henchman, the nation's top prosecutor AG Bill Barr, said he would not investigate the allegations that make up the Obamagate story...

if there was any evidence of crimes committed by Obama and his folks, especially Biden, don't you think Trump would compel his AG to go after them, especially in the run up to the election?
Mr. Jones Offline
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If Biden picks Michelle Obama as his running mate...

I am totally screwed...
Dg west deptford Offline
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I don't know delta, he let Hillary off. That was an easy jail time scenario for sure!
delta1 Offline
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it was Jeff Sessions who was running the show when that decision was made... DOJ seemed on board with the FBI's conclusion that although what Hillary did was "extremely careless" there was not evidence of criminal intent.

Intent...that is an essential element of proving that was a crime...without it, you don't have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she committed the crime...

in Trump's mind, tho, an actual investigation and conviction isn't necessary...just an "announcement" ...

remember the quid pro quo with the Ukrainian president? Trump only wanted him to make a public announcement that they were investigating Biden...that would be enough to muddy up Biden during the campaign season...
Dg west deptford Offline
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I thought obstructing justice was criminal.
Bleach bit, hammers, etc.
He let her off bigly
teedubbya Offline
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If those things happened Barr can still go after her. Go place a citizens arrest and demand action.
izonfire Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
If those things happened Barr can still go after her. Go place a citizens arrest and demand action.

I’ll git my shotgun TW.
You git yer truck...
teedubbya Offline
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Yee Haw. Hopefully channel west coast is in too.
Dg west deptford Offline
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Deltas right, a conviction and punishment aren't helpful just a court of opinion acknowledged
Its enough that we all know she broke the law and got away with it. Don't you try it, you'll fry for much less. Especially if you're conservative/libertarian.
What's there to investigate anyway the quid pro joe was all bragged about on camera with swearing. "Your not getting the billion unless.." sunoverbeach!
No one cares, anyone but Trump 'cause we gotta keep killing these babies!
frankj1 Offline
#17 Posted:
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when Trump's personal attorney, Barr, says he is not even considering looking into this stuff, I figured the crowd would disperse.
Speyside Offline
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Shouldn't an investigation of Obama be conducted by Kenyan authorities?
RobertHively Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Deltas right, a conviction and punishment aren't helpful just a court of opinion acknowledged
Its enough that we all know she broke the law and got away with it. Don't you try it, you'll fry for much less. Especially if you're conservative/libertarian.
What's there to investigate anyway the quid pro joe was all bragged about on camera with swearing. "Your not getting the billion unless.." sunoverbeach!
No one cares, anyone but Trump 'cause we gotta keep killing these babies!


I get what your saying in this post and the posts on the "You aint black thread." How many dozens of people have the Clintons killed?? Anybody got the latest body count??

BUT, Trump and the republicans haven't fulfilled any of their campaign promises. Shocker that politicians promise the world and deliver nothing. They had control of the executive, both chambers of the legislative and the judiciary (it shouldnt be political but it is) and they didn't even repeal Obamacare. Something all of them got elected to do. Hillary wasn't "locked up" Abortion continued. The border remains open. NSA spying continues. The wars continue. Big government spending has continued. The U.S. still gives its wealth to other nations. Trump even arbitrarily banned bump stocks, so his administration has even managed to enact more gun control by executive decree.

I dont think the president is as powerful as some like to believe.

Other than not indicating a desire for outright gun confiscation Trump sounds like the last guy. Maybe the republican party is still more conservative, but that divide is becoming harder and harder to see on the Federal level.

I for one don't make my decisions based on Gaffes. I'm not even outraged about what Biden said, to me it's sad that he thinks that way, but a lot of people do. Maybe he doesn't think that way and he was just bs'n with the guy like Delta said. Maybe Trump was just trolling the media about drinking bleach. But you got to ask yourself, what has Trump really done? What would Biden do, not much either.
Dg west deptford Offline
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True, and well said but Trump is at least a speed bump on the road to globalism and socialism and appointed a bunch of constitutionally conservative Judges. That's really all I expected. Drastically slowing the Chi-coms rise to global dominance , tightening the border, strengthening our military, cutting taxes to middlers like me, reducing job killing regulations and pissing off the libs icing on the cake! I'll have another slice please
RobertHively Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
True, and well said but Trump is at least a speed bump on the road to globalism and socialism and appointed a bunch of constitutionally conservative Judges. That's really all I expected. Drastically slowing the Chi-coms rise to global dominance , tightening the border, strengthening our military, cutting taxes to middlers like me, reducing job killing regulations and pissing off the libs icing on the cake! I'll have another slice please


I agree with you on some of those things. Maybe I should appreciate the small victories more.
xibbumbero Offline
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Obamagate is the right deflecting from the bumbling bungling potus's actions or lack of actions, that we currently have in office.
Obama has come and gone. If trashing a former potus is fair game,then lets go to Nixon and his criminal actions.
The right overlooks trumps continuous lies concerning covid-19,among other things.
However,we should all rejoice. According to to trump and pence,we should be free of the covid-19 pandemic on Memorial day. According to trump,it will be gone and never return. X Frying pan
teedubbya Offline
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I heard Obama did lots of bad stuff and stuff
delta1 Offline
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butt Hillary
Krazeehorse Offline
#25 Posted:
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Obama did Hillary in da Booootay???
teedubbya Offline
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Who didn’t? It’s a great booty.
Brewha Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
True, and well said but Trump is at least a speed bump on the road to globalism and socialism and appointed a bunch of constitutionally conservative Judges. That's really all I expected. Drastically slowing the Chi-coms rise to global dominance , tightening the border, strengthening our military, cutting taxes to middlers like me, reducing job killing regulations and pissing off the libs icing on the cake! I'll have another slice please




Omg....he thinks he got a tax cut.....
Dg west deptford Offline
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Yes! & let me add some more accomplishments:
Embassy in Jerusalem - huge! For those who understand priceless value of such things, huge is an understatement. All others promised but POTUS got it done.
Caliphate crushed handily - wonder why B. Hussein. O. Couldn't?
4 million jobs created, best economy for minorities ever, median household income highest ever, African , Hispanic & Asian American unemployment lowest ever. (T. Is a terrible racist)
Womens unemployment lowest in 65 years.
Good thing we made $while we could because after the coup-de -ta & impeachment hoaxes failed the globalists loosed the plague.
Obamacare mandate penalty gone.
Energy independence!!! Hugely important
NATO allies spending 69 billion more on defense
Shameful Iran deal ended!
Embarrassing NAFTA deal replaced with common sense deal
Walls being built!
Protection for Americans from terrorism with travel ban
Protection for Americans from plague with travel ban - Biden opposed this as racist. Duh.
I could go on for days as this really is great stuff but our hope isn't in government or political leaders. Our only hope is God!
God hating commies, billionaire globalist government seeking bankers, Hollyweird elitists and Islamic extremists HATE him. You can tell a lot about someone by who hates them.
I'll be the first to say Trump is a worldly self seeking opportunist with LOTS of shameful failures BUT, so what! He's called to be our secular president not our example of good or spiritual leader. Not to worry though for you lefties your Anti Christ is coming and you can all bow and worship his cult of personality in the new world order.
That was fun.
Happy Sunday brothers
rfenst Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
True, and well said but Trump is at least a speed bump on the road to globalism and socialism and appointed a bunch of constitutionally conservative Judges. That's really all I expected. Drastically slowing the Chi-coms rise to global dominance , tightening the border, strengthening our military, cutting taxes to middlers like me, reducing job killing regulations and pissing off the libs icing on the cake! I'll have another slice please

Reads like the Trump campaign playbook.
Dg west deptford Offline
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You have to admit It's a good playbook. Unless of course you hate America, the constitution and "go you know the thing"
rfenst Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
You have to admit It's a good playbook. Unless of course you hate America, the constitution and "go you know the thing"

I won't admit it's a good playbook because I think he over all sucks at being president.
Speyside Offline
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No, it's a good playbook. Hitler's was also. The sad part is so was Stalin's, and so was Mao's.
Dg west deptford Offline
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Funny how you reference all socialists, yet you want socialism and Trump is clearly pissing off the socialists. Your clearly confused, deceived or self deluded
"Progressivism" is in line with Hitler, Stalin and Mao. Constitutionalism and capitalism is in line with Trump's MAGA policies. You prolly hate that there's a beautiful new embassy in Jerusalem too as would your boys Hitler, stalin and Mao.
Dg west deptford Offline
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I apologize, I shouldn't have called those demonic socialist leaders your boys or insinuated you are like Obama and favored jew haters over Isreal. Not even drinking yet.
Peace
Brewha Offline
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rfenst wrote:
I won't admit it's a good playbook because I think he over all sucks at being president.

+1
Dg west deptford Offline
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Back to the OP obamagate isn't a thing. Nor do I feel it necessarily should be but senator Grassley does have a point when he said
“Given all we know now about the fake foundation of the inquiry, it's time we ask: What did Obama and Biden know and when did they know it?” Grassley said Monday on the Senate floor.
teedubbya Offline
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I think the definition of socialist must have changed.
Brewha Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I think the definition of socialist must have changed.

People always seem to get angry about things they don’t understand.

Highways. Tax everyone and build roads. Socialist. Dame libtards.

And “killing babies”. Like anyone would be into doing that (outside of some of the black ops guys). But some peoples religious believes give them the right to tell women what to do. Cause they know God better than anyone else.

Which reminds me, Thick As A Brick was a great poem.
Speyside Offline
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In truth you have no idea of my ideological beliefs. Trump, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao are all fachists. Though Stalin and Mao are red fachists. There are other parallels such as jingoism. To group Hitler and Stalin in the same grouping is patently absurd. If you put them in the same room only one would have left alive. I hate all four. No one tells me how to think and why. I hate that Trump has subverted about 40% of our country. I hate that so many people in government have to double speak to be able to do their jobs in any fashion. Interesting last point. Even though I never said a word about you, your first action regarding my remarks was to personally attack me, though you later did apologize.
Dg west deptford Offline
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I find that it's mostly people that have already escaped the dangers of the womb that are pro choice.
I personally don't think I could make a living by chopping and salting infants. I understand the selfish desire to avoid the inconvenience and expense of a human child but killing infants for selfish purposes seems a tad too liberal for me personally. BUT there's also the concern for the defenseless citizens that have the right to life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness under our constitution. "Am I my brothers keeper?" was bandied about recently here. The answer to that question was "the voice of your brothers blood cries out to me from the ground"
What's the sound of 60mm babies blood sound like in heaven?
tonygraz Offline
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Tell us more about this heaven of yours with baby blood.
Dg west deptford Offline
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Genesis 4:9-11
The blood that speaks
Hebrews 12:24
Blood that speaks better things than that of Abel

I can go on if you want a bible study
izonfire Offline
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Much like veal, a baby’s blood is unparalleled in its consistency and flavor.
Or so I’ve heard...
frankj1 Offline
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rut roh rorge
tonygraz Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Genesis 4:9-11
The blood that speaks
Hebrews 12:24
Blood that speaks better things than that of Abel

I can go on if you want a bible study


Whatcha got on the book of Enoch ?
Dg west deptford Offline
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Never read it but interestingly there's a copy at the local cigar lounge. Been meaning to check it out.
I know him and Elijah got caught up alive into heaven and will be back one day soon to be witnesses to Christ in Jerusalem then martyred. Then men will exchange cigars in celebration of their deaths. 3 days later their dead bodies lying in the street will be resurrected. Revelations 11:3- 12
Happy Memorial Day brothers
Speyside Offline
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DG, my intent is not to mock your beliefs as some do. I am pro choice and pro life. I do not see this as being impossible. I believe a woman has an absolute right to self determination of her own body untill such time the fetus becomes a human being. Then she has no right to terminate that human being. When a fetus becomes a human being is not as simple as the moment of conception or the first breath. That being said my personal belief is always choose life. I don't need a book to tell me how to belive, think, and act. If someone tells me the bible is absolute, and if I don't follow it I am going to hell, I tell them to shove their book up their azz. Same thing for any religious zealot telling me their book or he'll. Guess what. None of the above means I am a non believer or immoral. It just means my path to enlightenment is different than yours. Interestingly enough I think you are stating your beliefs, not telling me what I need to believe. I think you have strong beliefs and mortality. I do think you could work a little on having better control of your initial anger, but that's just my opinion.
rfenst Offline
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Speyside wrote:
... I do think you could work a little on having better control of your initial anger, but that's just my opinion.

Right on!
Brewha Offline
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I would like to take this opportunity to thank God for making me an agnostic.

Of course I’m missing out on the whole tell people how to live thing, condemning the heathens, and enjoying self righteous contempt for others.

But life is a mixed bag, you know....
Dg west deptford Offline
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Well said and agreed, thanks Spey. I know it's hard in a text form to portray tone but when I get terse it's in a lighthearted jest
I know I'm mostly being trolled & I'm fine with it.
I have lots of spirituality & politically like minded friends as well as plenty of opposite minded friends. Yet we still somehow enjoy each other's company & are able to enjoy brotherly love. I know many of my un-churched friends would lay down their life for me as quickly as I would for them. Its definitely harder to share opinions without offending in text so I appreciate your gracious advice and respect your positions. As I know there's no such thing as an unbeliever. Just truth deniers. Now no more politics for me for awhile! I'll prolly never be able to resist the "faith" trolling but please if you must - start a separate thread for the purpose. Thanks again
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