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Johnnymyco Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jul 5 2020, 9:16 PM EST
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I have a cabin thats disconnected from the power grid, i want to connect my generator to my breaker panel temporarily to use well pump, i want to do this using 10/4 wire, but my panel sure as hell doesnt want 10/4 wire? Anyone?
Plowboy221 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jul 5 2020, 9:23 PM EST
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1.fire up the genny with wire connected

2.lick the the bare wire

3. Enjoy the ride
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kk6wLZN4X74
Notthe1 Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Jul 5 2020, 9:29 PM EST
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Why not just connect the pump directly to the gene.
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Jul 5 2020, 10:31 PM EST
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don't know anything about this, but I vote for post #2
frankj1 Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Jul 5 2020, 10:33 PM EST
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oh, almost forgot...

WRONG FORUM NOOB!
izonfire Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jul 5 2020, 11:54 PM EST
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Hook it up and fire it up.
What’s the worst that could happen?...
Whistlebritches Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Jul 6 2020, 12:29 AM EST
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You could pull your power lead out of your pump control box(or you could make up a longer lead if necessary and put in the power positions in your control box) and attach a 220 male plug then attach straight to the generator.Your 10/4 wire from the pump will never go straight to power,it'll remain hooked up in the pump control box.It's a really simple process if you have some electrical skills.However to do this right you need to have an electrician put in a transfer switch.The type in the video below is what I would go with,manual with individual rocker switches.This gives you the ability to only power up the circuits you wish to use at one time.You would also need to replace your existing panel or the better option IMO put a solid transfer disconnect between the grid and your existing panel(even if your currently not hooked up to the grid this prevents lightning surges or allowing a dual load if you ever decide to hook back up to the grid.I don't like to swap loads immediately after power comes back up........give it an hour or two to stabalize).All this is pretty simple provided you have some electrical skills,if not just pay a professional to be on the safe side.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNqMunZ74kw
Plowboy221 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Jul 6 2020, 9:29 AM EST
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To late Ron, I think he may have actually took my advice and rode the lightning.

RIP, Johnnymyco
Numismaniac Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jul 6 2020, 12:14 PM EST
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LMAO!
Numismaniac Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jul 6 2020, 12:15 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
oh, almost forgot...

WRONG FORUM NOOB!




Thank you SIR, you beat me to it. What's up with the current crop of chuckleheads?!?!?!?
Numismaniac Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jul 6 2020, 12:17 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
You could pull your power lead out of your pump control box(or you could make up a longer lead if necessary and put in the power positions in your control box) and attach a 220 male plug then attach straight to the generator.Your 10/4 wire from the pump will never go straight to power,it'll remain hooked up in the pump control box.It's a really simple process if you have some electrical skills.However to do this right you need to have an electrician put in a transfer switch.The type in the video below is what I would go with,manual with individual rocker switches.This gives you the ability to only power up the circuits you wish to use at one time.You would also need to replace your existing panel or the better option IMO put a solid transfer disconnect between the grid and your existing panel(even if your currently not hooked up to the grid this prevents lightning surges or allowing a dual load if you ever decide to hook back up to the grid.I don't like to swap loads immediately after power comes back up........give it an hour or two to stabalize).All this is pretty simple provided you have some electrical skills,if not just pay a professional to be on the safe side.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNqMunZ74kw




THIS, because, as well, you don't want to connect to the main since that could also send electricity back through the grid, IF it's connected at the meter still, but just cut at the closest junction on a pole.
bluwater1959 Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Jul 8 2020, 8:23 AM EST
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Johnnymyco wrote:
I have a cabin thats disconnected from the power grid, i want to connect my generator to my breaker panel temporarily to use well pump, i want to do this using 10/4 wire, but my panel sure as hell doesnt want 10/4 wire? Anyone?


I'm curious as to why it doesn't like 10/4 wire... Is it an old panel??
JadeRose Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Jul 8 2020, 8:40 AM EST
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Plowboy221 wrote:
To late Ron, I think he may have actually took my advice and rode the lightning.

RIP, Johnnymyco




I guess when you ask electrical questions in the wrong forum of a discount cigar site, you get what you get
Whistlebritches Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Jul 8 2020, 9:30 AM EST
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bluwater1959 wrote:
I'm curious as to why it doesn't like 10/4 wire... Is it an old panel??


Actually the 10/4 wire is from the pump to the pump control panel only.I think he was trying disconnect from the pump control panel and go straight to the genearator which is just going to burn your pump motor up more than likely.That capacitor in the pump control panel is there for a reason...........kind of a soft start set up.I could be completely wrong here on that 4 wire set up.they make a 2 wire and 3 wire pump but neither would use 4 wire cable pre or post control panel in any situation I have ever seen.Of course when you throw in a pressure tank/switch this gets slightly more involved.
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