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MACS Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2020, 7:36 PM EST
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Anyone hear about this? I mean... without looking it up right now.

5 year old white kid. Shot in the head in front of his sisters by a 25 year old black man.

Disgusting.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2020, 7:46 PM EST
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CNN said it was a local news incident... probably don't want to fan the flames of racial tension...
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2020, 8:14 PM EST
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Yeah I don’t have to look it up I already read the story yesterday 5 year old kid rode his bike into the neighbors yard. Neighbor responds by running outside and executing him in front of his siblings (2 other kids).

Another neighbor was shocked as she’d seen the guy run out and play WITH the kids before.....something is off on this one.

Good thing for that neighborhood the kid was white and the murdering POS is black, so it won’t get burned down or looted.

#BLM
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2020, 9:23 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Anyone hear about this? I mean... without looking it up right now.

5 year old white kid. Shot in the head in front of his sisters by a 25 year old black man.

Disgusting.

sounds like there may have been a news leak...
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2020, 9:30 PM EST
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Another tragic Covid death.
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2020, 9:32 PM EST
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mental health coverage needed
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2020, 10:27 PM EST
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Mental health coverage doesn’t help COVID......

The 5 year old wasn’t wearing a mask.
izonfire Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2020, 11:39 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
mental health coverage needed

I thought you'd have been responsible enough to have that covered...
Plowboy221 Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 7:29 AM EST
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A tall oak tree and noose would cure his mental ill....
bgz Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 8:48 AM EST
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One thing I'll give Trump, the world is a bit more transparent now.
Speyside Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 9:44 AM EST
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Plowboy, comments like that are one of the many reasons I hate white supremacists, neo nazis, and racists. It is not acceptable to decent people no matter what the context.
Plowboy221 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:14 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Plowboy, comments like that are one of the many reasons I hate white supremacists, neo nazis, and racists. It is not acceptable to decent people no matter what the context.



Has nothing to do with skin color, nice job on jumping out of that conclusion. Swift, harsh punishment is what this country needs for the guilty party that commits these unspeakable crimes. Execution by hanging, firing squad or a simple bullet the center mass of the brain. It’s the only way to deter criminals. This is my opinion, many don’t like it and I can give two chits less.
Speyside Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:29 AM EST
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BS, and I don't care what you think either. You want to make the same observations on swastikas?
rfenst Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:30 AM EST
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Plowboy221 wrote:
Has nothing to do with skin color, nice job on jumping out of that conclusion. Swift, harsh punishment is what this country needs for the guilty party that commits these unspeakable crimes. Execution by hanging, firing squad or a simple bullet the center mass of the brain. It’s the only way to deter criminals. This is my opinion, many don’t like it and I can give two chits less.

I don't think Alan's comment suggests he doesn't support the death penalty or swift and harsh punishment. (I don't know) It's that notions of nooses and oak trees are not usually consistent with due process.
Plowboy221 Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:48 AM EST
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Very limited do process in the old west, thieves, murderers, you find a tall “oak” tree and hang them till dead.

Fine build a god damn gallows in town square then, line up the rest of the of the worthless criminals that will never be able to rejoin society and hang their asses as well. Why should we pay a lifetime for someone to sit and rot in a cell that never be a benefit to society.

Hang’em High an let God sort’em out.
Plowboy221 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:49 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
BS, and I don't care what you think either. You want to make the same observations on swastikas?



Take how you took the context of my comment wad it up real nice, and shove it up your ass tell you choke you ****
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:53 AM EST
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Spey you got your outrage pants on today?

Do you know Plow? Do you even know if he’s white or not?
JadeRose Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:56 AM EST
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Jesus....are you idiots actually arguing over this? A little boy was executed by an obviously deranged man. The color of anyone's skin is irrelevant and yeah, I think the murderer should have a bullet put in his head. Not because he's black, but because he's a psychopath.
ZRX1200 Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:57 AM EST
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Jade you’re a racist....

Consider yourself

#cancelled.
Speyside Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:58 AM EST
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Kinda pissed off because I point out truth? Historically speaking in this country there are different contexts. We do not do the death penalty in that manner any more. I think maybe we did with Gary Gilmore but that was at his request. So you are talking vigilante murder at best. A decent person assumes you are talking about tactics of the above mentioned groups. And actual 1st degree murder fron a historical perspective when not death penalty associated.
JadeRose Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:00 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Jade you’re a racist....

Consider yourself

#cancelled.




Cool
JadeRose Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:03 AM EST
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It's $hit like this that would preclude me from ever being a cop. It would be very hard to resist being judge, jury and executioner when you come across some a$$hole that you KNOW hurt or killed a kid
JadeRose Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:05 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Kinda pissed off because I point out truth? Historically speaking in this country there are different contexts. We do not do the death penalty in that manner any more. I think maybe we did with Gary Gilmore but that was at his request. So you are talking vigilante murder at best. A decent person assumes you are talking about tactics of the above mentioned groups. And actual 1st degree murder fron a historical perspective when not death penalty associated.




Are you talking to me? If so, suck it. I only care about what happened to this kid and the animal that did it to him. I don't give a f*ck about whatever you're babbling on about
HockeyDad Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:21 AM EST
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Speyside is in virtue signaling mode!
Gene363 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:26 AM EST
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JadeRose wrote:
It's $hit like this that would preclude me from ever being a cop. It would be very hard to resist being judge, jury and executioner when you come across some a$$hole that you KNOW hurt or killed a kid


I figured about the third time I asked for more ammunition, on my first day, I'g get premature carrier realignment if not jail.
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:27 AM EST
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race doesn't matter..?? flip the races and see what happens... Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:29 AM EST
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But it's still OK to call some one a nazi or raciest and put a target on their back, just because you disagree with them.
frankj1 Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:33 AM EST
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a little child is dead...
JadeRose Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 11:33 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
race doesn't matter..?? flip the races and see what happens... Mellow




Not to me. I got no use for people that hurt kids. Those people have forfeited their right to oxygen
MACS Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 12:02 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Speyside is in virtue signaling mode!


My thoughts, as well. #whiteguilt

As Frank said, a child is dead. I feel as if his life was more important than some doped out criminal, but it isn't getting near the attention.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 12:09 PM EST
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#jaderoseisoverparty
delta1 Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 12:12 PM EST
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of course this is a tragic and horrific incident...

but by id'ing the victim's and the murderer's race, has that altered the discussion?
victor809 Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 1:50 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
a little child is dead...


^this.
I heard about this a day or two ago. The coincidentally same people who are very concerned about the criminal record of any black person killed by a "security guard" or cop are super concerned about this particular crime too. The same cousin of mine who wants to kill BLM protesters was really excited about this. You guys would like him, he's racist.

It sounds like an unfortunate crime. I am assuming the perpetrator has mental problems, since this seems abnormal.

Advocating hanging a person with mental disabilities seems odd.... but if we want to go that way I'm sure we can clear out a lot of halfway houses....

But this whole "I bet you never heard about this!" crap sounds a lot like politicizing some kid's death, which was not on first blush a political death.
Speyside Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 3:48 PM EST
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No, I was talking about a specific reference plowboy used.

Blow me Jade.
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#35 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 4:36 PM EST
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JadeRose wrote:
It's $hit like this that would preclude me from ever being a cop. It would be very hard to resist being judge, jury and executioner when you come across some a$$hole that you KNOW hurt or killed a kid



Me too. I know this about myself and that's why I'm not a cop.

Watching Dirty Harry movies nobody ever mentions his arrest record. He simply killed them and he got to do his job. Different day, different sicko to eradicate.
delta1 Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 4:42 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
No, I was talking about a specific reference plowboy used.

Blow me Jade.



maybe he didn't know that a noose has become a racist symbol meant to terrorize black people
Speyside Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 5:31 PM EST
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Plowboy, I was pointing something out. I purposely did not call you one of those people.

Gene, where did I call him any of those? You dog pound boys are sure short on reading comprehension.

Robert you are correct.
dkeage Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 6:16 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
of course this is a tragic and horrific incident...

but by id'ing the victim's and the murderer's race, has that altered the discussion?



Wow, Just.....wow...
MACS Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Aug 14 2020, 10:49 PM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7MPTkUtnv8
Krazeehorse Offline
#40 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 5:42 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
race doesn't matter..?? flip the races and see what happens... Mellow

Are you suggesting there may have been different media coverage and community reactions?
Gene363 Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 9:51 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Plowboy, I was pointing something out. I purposely did not call you one of those people.

Gene, where did I call him any of those? You dog pound boys are sure short on reading comprehension.

Robert you are correct.


I don't know examine your now conscience, but I do you what you said about me.
DrafterX Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 10:16 AM EST
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Think
Brewha Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 10:31 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
maybe he didn't know that a noose has become a racist symbol meant to terrorize black people

+1
Whistlebritches Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 10:44 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
of course this is a tragic and horrific incident...

but by id'ing the victim's and the murderer's race, has that altered the discussion?



Al you know I love you like a brother........but do you listen to yourself at all?
Brewha Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 11:00 AM EST
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In fairness, the point of the story - what made it notable - was the race aspect.

People kill people every day. But the race aspect of this kinda makes it special, right?
Whistlebritches Offline
#46 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 11:25 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
In fairness, the point of the story - what made it notable - was the race aspect.

People kill people every day. But the race aspect of this kinda makes it special, right?



Wow........another do you hear yourself?

I thought it was the child aspect.......WTF was I thinking?
Brewha Offline
#47 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 11:27 AM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Wow........another do you hear yourself?

I thought it was the child aspect.......WTF was I thinking?

Where you?
Speyside Offline
#48 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 11:28 AM EST
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Nah, examine your conscience for the crap you say to anyone who disagrees with you and quit deflecting. Like the comment to Robert that smart people surround themselves with other with other smart people. Now quit deflecting and being butthurt. Point out where I said anything about plowboy that you stated I did. And yes when someone is a white supremacist, neo nazi, or racist it is fair to call them what they are. Whether they see it differently does not matter. You have no problems labeling others. I have no problem labeling you. Concience?
Stating what I see as clear and obvious is honest. What gives you the right to tell me to examine my concience? Extreme conservatives such as you need to toughen up or go to their safe place. I apologized out of courtesy. You have never done the same for myself. Now stick with the facts. Hint you cannot because you are wrong.
Speyside Offline
#49 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 11:36 AM EST
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The race aspect does matter. There should be similar outrage from all people. That there isn't is very revealing. Also this man deserves the death penalty. The crime is so heinous I do not care about his mental condition. Finally this is a hate crime and racist.
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#50 Posted: Sat, Aug 15 2020, 12:56 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
The race aspect does matter. There should be similar outrage from all people. That there isn't is very revealing. Also this man deserves the death penalty. The crime is so heinous I do not care about his mental condition. Finally this is a hate crime and racist.



I agree with all til you get to the hate crime and racist statement.I've never bought into the hate crime laws due to equal application is virtually impossible.A racist........one truly cannot know anothers heart
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