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Speyside Offline
#1201 Posted: Fri, Jun 26 2020, 7:42 PM EST
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1982 Sir Winston Churchill Pol Roger Champagne France.
frankj1 Offline
#1202 Posted: Fri, Jun 26 2020, 10:16 PM EST
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Hey Allen the same day we spoke and I asked to clarify the name of the rose you suggested La Farge ( I bought a bottle Le Farghe) I immediately saw and bought a bottle of red that says:

Domaine
Lafage
Nicloas
vieilles vignes de grenache (100%)...Roussillon
it's 2018, an Eric Solomon selection, reads like it's pretty full bodied and fruity, and suggests will age well.
The word Miraflors is there somewhere, you gave that a thumbs up once on a post I made...

same producers as the rose you like?
Speyside Offline
#1203 Posted: Fri, Jun 26 2020, 10:30 PM EST
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Yes, you have a bottle that is made from about 100 year old vines. While it is not a beast it is huge. My favorite old vine Grenache. Drinks great on its own, with red meat, with lamb, with stew, with goulash, wild boar, venison, buffalo. You are in for a treat! Expect it to turn your mouth purple, it will. After taking a swig rub your tounge on the outside of your front teeth, very interesting.
frankj1 Offline
#1204 Posted: Fri, Jun 26 2020, 10:43 PM EST
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I may peak too early!
must calm down.
cacman Offline
#1205 Posted: Wed, Jul 8 2020, 9:03 PM EST
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Had to break into my father-in-law's stash due to quarantine. Drinking some Apothic Red Blend‎. Silky smooth & fruity from the Cabs I prefer.
Speyside Offline
#1206 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2020, 7:54 AM EST
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It's to fruit forward Carl. If they backed the fruit down a about 50% it would be much better IMHO. Though it is designed for a specific crowd and sells very well.
izonfire Offline
#1207 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2020, 10:15 AM EST
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There are too many people here who are all too willing to forward their fruit.
I'm thankful that Spey chooses to be a bit more restrained...
cacman Offline
#1208 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2020, 6:57 PM EST
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Drinking a bottle of 19 Crimes - an Australian Cabernet. Very good.
frankj1 Offline
#1209 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2020, 7:06 PM EST
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I wrote:
Domaine
Lafage
Nicloas
vieilles vignes de grenache (100%)...Roussillon
it's 2018, an Eric Solomon selection, reads like it's pretty full bodied and fruity, and suggests will age well.
The word Miraflors is there somewhere, you gave that a thumbs up once on a post I made...


Speyside wrote:
Yes, you have a bottle that is made from about 100 year old vines. While it is not a beast it is huge. My favorite old vine Grenache. Drinks great on its own, with red meat, with lamb, with stew, with goulash, wild boar, venison, buffalo. You are in for a treat! Expect it to turn your mouth purple, it will. After taking a swig rub your tounge on the outside of your front teeth, very interesting.


sure hope I can remember where I bought this one!
great juice right there.
cacman Offline
#1210 Posted: Fri, Jul 17 2020, 5:45 PM EST
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Kirkland Alexander Valley 2017 Cabernet Sauvignon

Meh
deadeyedick Offline
#1211 Posted: Fri, Jul 17 2020, 6:40 PM EST
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The Alexander Valley is full of great Cabernet. Apparently this wasn’t one.
cacman Offline
#1212 Posted: Fri, Jul 17 2020, 7:42 PM EST
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^^^
Very dry on the end, with an overpowering amount of oak bitterness. It's not bad - just doesn't fit my palate. I don't care for dry cabs or other wines.
Speyside Offline
#1213 Posted: Fri, Jul 17 2020, 10:22 PM EST
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If you can find it, try Roth, a truely underpriced Alexander Valley cabernet. About $23.00. At its quality it could be $50.00 IMHO.
Speyside Offline
#1214 Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2020, 7:15 AM EST
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Marcel Deiss, 2009 Elgarten Blanc, Alsace, France.

Wow!!! Had it with apple slices and pear slices drizzled with a thick white wine vinegar, like an old Basalmic in style.
Hussie Offline
#1215 Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2020, 8:47 AM EST
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You can not go wrong with any Red's from Chile.
frankj1 Offline
#1216 Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2020, 5:05 PM EST
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Hussie wrote:
You can not go wrong with any Red's from Chile.

assuming you mean wine, not commies!

hmmm, a retired woman who likes good booze and a cigar?

will you marry me when The Lovely Caren finally smaahtens up?
HockeyDad Offline
#1217 Posted: Sun, Jul 26 2020, 7:15 PM EST
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Robert Young Alexander Valley Chardonnay 2017. I have their patented clone-17 Chardonnay planted in my backyard.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1218 Posted: Fri, Aug 7 2020, 7:08 PM EST
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Ledger David 2016 Cab Franc. The nose is a bit boozier than past releases but still has that signature nose of dark cherries, a touch or blackberry and a backbone of fig sweetness. My desert island wine.
illinichaser Offline
#1219 Posted: Fri, Aug 7 2020, 7:19 PM EST
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Jamie- you so fancy now
ZRX1200 Offline
#1220 Posted: Fri, Aug 7 2020, 7:20 PM EST
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You can take the redneck outta the sheets, but you can’t take the sheets outta the redneck without some bacon.
illinichaser Offline
#1221 Posted: Fri, Aug 7 2020, 7:33 PM EST
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I didn’t think they allowed rednecks I. Your neck of the woods. Figured they all got sent to CHAD for “proper” disposition
Speyside Offline
#1222 Posted: Fri, Aug 7 2020, 7:53 PM EST
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Had 2 unique Cab Francs recently. 2015 Mari Vineyards, old mission peninsula, Traverse City, Michigan. 2016 Garzon Cab Franc, Uruguay.

Z, does the Leger David express any Oregon distinctiveness?
deadeyedick Offline
#1223 Posted: Fri, Aug 7 2020, 8:10 PM EST
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I can say that the Ledger David has a very opulent mouth feel and taste that is equal to the best of Sonoma . Reminds me of the St Francis Pagani Vinyards.
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#1224 Posted: Sat, Aug 8 2020, 12:16 AM EST
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One thing is the high abv because of the high summer temps.

I would agree with DED ^ that fog sweetness is something I do get from other wines, but there’s something about the LD that always leaves looking for exactly what it is.
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#1225 Posted: Sat, Aug 8 2020, 7:12 PM EST
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Ledger David 2017 Malbec.

Not a big “Malbec” guy but this was in my allotment I picked up yesterday, enjoyed this at the river today with the ex wife and her fam for my daughter’s step sisters birthday party.

Peppery. Easy drinking.
HockeyDad Offline
#1226 Posted: Sat, Aug 8 2020, 8:20 PM EST
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2015 Hall 1873 Cabernet Sauvignon
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#1227 Posted: Tue, Aug 18 2020, 6:36 PM EST
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2019 Peyrassol La Croix Rose wine
Mediterranee (France)
Imported by Rosenthal Wine Merchants

very dry, "unfined and unfiltered". No sediment yet.
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#1228 Posted: Tue, Aug 18 2020, 6:40 PM EST
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Birthday glass of Ledger David 2016 Cab Franc at the C.P tasting room.
Speyside Offline
#1229 Posted: Tue, Sep 8 2020, 6:16 AM EST
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Alain Grillot, 2015 Crozes Hermitage rouge, Crozes Hermitage, Nothern Rhone Valley, France.

Escargot.
Cold cucumber soup.
Grilled herbed leg of lamb.
Baby Spinach and Kale salad.
Cheese plate.
Fresh blueberries and black raspberries.
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#1230 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 8:37 PM EST
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Noble Vines 667 Pinot Noir.

Screw you it was $6. Actually it’s not bad.....
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#1231 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 8:45 PM EST
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Wine is for women and wimps, except at dinner 🍽️.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1232 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 9:05 PM EST
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I’m waving my pinky at you sissy.
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#1233 Posted: Mon, Sep 28 2020, 6:17 PM EST
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Today’s free tasting at Ledger David:

2017 Primoris Chenin Blanc
2019 Sauvignon Blanc new release
2018 Tempranillo new release aged in 22% new French Oak 22 Mo’s
2018 Dark Knight blend of Tempranillo, Malbec Petite Verdot and Syrah 20% new French oak for 20 months
Speyside Offline
#1234 Posted: Mon, Sep 28 2020, 7:43 PM EST
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Did most of the vineyards make it ok?
frankj1 Offline
#1235 Posted: Mon, Sep 28 2020, 7:45 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Today’s free tasting at Ledger David:

2017 Primoris Chenin Blanc
2019 Sauvignon Blanc new release
2018 Tempranillo new release aged in 22% new French Oak 22 Mo’s
2018 Dark Knight blend of Tempranillo, Malbec Petite Verdot and Syrah 20% new French oak for 20 months

same folks as in my post 1201 with one of us spelling incorrectly?
mine was a pinot noir though.
HockeyDad Offline
#1236 Posted: Tue, Sep 29 2020, 11:09 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Did most of the vineyards make it ok?


It’s gonna be a rough vintage. The fires in August covered the Bay Area and Napa and Sonoma with thick smoke for a month. Harvest was just getting started so smoke taint is going to be a problem except for Alexander Valley.

The Glass fire managed to find the unburnt gap between the 2017 fires and even crossed the valley floor. The vineyards tend to act as fire breaks In the valley and often are ok. The wineries burn up and some are gone. The vineyards on the mountains don’t fare well.

I’m supposed to be up there this weekend but I suspect that will have to cancel.
Speyside Offline
#1237 Posted: Tue, Sep 29 2020, 11:26 AM EST
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That is a shame, more small businesses in trouble, and a very tough vintage.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1238 Posted: Tue, Sep 29 2020, 11:34 AM EST
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Frank no those I listed were all Ledger David, I’m a Platinum Member™️ There so I get free tastings (up to two guests....)

Ended up taking a bottle of 2016 Cab Franc and their new (2019) Sangiovese Rose (they tend to use a different varietal every year for their rose.

Drank they whole bottle of Rosé while making them eating pierogies last night. Light sweetness and the distinctive bright Sangiovese characteristics.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1239 Posted: Tue, Sep 29 2020, 11:35 AM EST
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We haven’t had a “classic” year here since 2012.
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#1240 Posted: Tue, Sep 29 2020, 11:39 AM EST
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Interesting, 2016's from Willamette valley may be the best ever.
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#1241 Posted: Tue, Sep 29 2020, 11:43 AM EST
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We have much more federal timber around us, and fires on federal forest are left to burn until they reach a certain threshold. Also Willamette tends to have more consistent winds to push smoke East.
HockeyDad Offline
#1242 Posted: Tue, Sep 29 2020, 12:59 PM EST
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So far 64 of ~ 400 Napa wineries are in the evacuation zone.

Castello di Amorosa saved the castle but lost the attached farmhouse which stored all bottled wine.

Chateau Boswell destroyed.

Fairwinds Estate Winery, Hourglass Winery, Newton Vineyard, Paloma, Sterling Vineyards all serious damage.

Many others saved the winery but lost all the surrounding buildings.
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#1243 Posted: Wed, Oct 7 2020, 6:25 PM EST
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Josh Cabernet Sauvignon

Prefer their merlot but this is what I has. Paired with New York strips, crab imperial, and roasted asparagus.
HockeyDad Offline
#1244 Posted: Wed, Oct 7 2020, 7:12 PM EST
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Bluewing Vineyards Cabernet 2017
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#1245 Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2020, 5:04 PM EST
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Serra Vineyards 2012 Cab Franc.

My favorite vineyard went out of business some time ago, they screwed members....then today I happen to be off and see an ad for our local Grocery Outlet Store which I’ve never been to for a wine sale. Apparently they bought all their old stock, I got 3 cases for $5 per bottle which used to retail for $55 ea
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#1246 Posted: Fri, Nov 20 2020, 7:41 PM EST
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La Petite Perriere Rose 2019
100% pinot noir.
cheap, like me with roses, and very nice with pasta primavera one night, and fresh salmon burgers tonight.
Speyside Offline
#1247 Posted: Fri, Nov 20 2020, 8:52 PM EST
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Stock up Frank, the season for Rose is at it's end. They will last for a while.
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#1248 Posted: Fri, Nov 20 2020, 9:47 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Stock up Frank, the season for Rose is at it's end. They will last for a while.

I will, really love them.

Opened a nice Primitivo yesterday, will finish over the weekend.
Trulli 2018. Had some with a few slices of a hard, dry manchego. Thinking I'll kill it with something in red sauce over the weekend. Haven't had a zin in ages as I've searched for lighter reds, so figured I'd give this pre-zin style a go with Winter approaching...
Very glad I did.
HockeyDad Offline
#1249 Posted: Fri, Nov 20 2020, 10:44 PM EST
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Hall 1873 Napa Cab
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#1250 Posted: Sat, Nov 21 2020, 9:07 AM EST
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2016 Favia Quartz
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