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jimbotork Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2021, 5:40 PM EST
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I just talked to a black guy and his wife who seem to think America has treated them horribly! I don't see this. I always invite these people to leave the U.S. and move to a country that is more comfortable for them. They never go. They stay and complain about how horrible it is. Why is that? What do they want? ALL LIVES MATTER!
Ram27 Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2021, 5:47 PM EST
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What I want is move this to POLITICS FORUM. Shame on you



ram27bat d'oh! ram27bat
MACS Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2021, 10:23 PM EST
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America is one of the LEAST racist, most generous countries on the planet.

Change my mind.
Whistlebritches Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2021, 10:49 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
America is one of the LEAST racist, most generous countries on the planet.

Change my mind.


+1
frankj1 Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Jan 9 2021, 11:46 PM EST
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they could move to Alaska...
BuckyB93 Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 12:42 AM EST
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Too cold
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 6:12 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
America is one of the LEAST racist, most generous countries on the planet.

Change my mind.



Can't, because you're right. We even threw a Civil War just to end slavery. Who else did that?
tonygraz Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 8:40 AM EST
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Racism is alive and thriving.
rfenst Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 8:48 AM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
What I want is move this to POLITICS FORUM. Shame on you



ram27bat d'oh! ram27bat

I think we need to send him a little visit by Frank and Drafter.
Paging Frank, paging Drafter- your assistance is needed!
tonygraz Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:09 AM EST
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The noop OP posted it there too.
8trackdisco Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:18 AM EST
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I do have issues with BLM.

I don't believe the federal government does a great job of managing the land. Look at all of the forest fires.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:36 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
America is one of the LEAST racist, most generous countries on the planet.

Change my mind.

maybe make this point on a thread where the op isn't telling black people to go back to their own country...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:39 AM EST
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Also, considering you tend to drop the n-word after you've been drinking in the vherf, maybe let someone else make this point...
Gene363 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:45 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
maybe make this point on a thread where the op isn't telling black people to go back to their own country...


No, he said, "move to a country that is more comfortable for them." this IS their country, unless you believe black people aren't Americans.

No different than people saying things like, America love it or leave it, telling/threatening people to move if they didn't like Obama or Trump as President or telling the fools that want socialism to move to Venezuela or Cuba to try it out. horse
Gene363 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:48 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Also, considering you tend to drop the n-word after you've been drinking in the vherf, maybe let someone else make this point...


Wow, seriously?
Gene363 Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:50 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
America is one of the LEAST racist, most generous countries on the planet.

Change my mind.


+2

And as long as we are human there will always be some form discrimination, by ALL races.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 10:31 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
I made uh ohs!

Gene, what happened buddy? You were doing so well!
Gene363 Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 11:39 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Gene, what happened buddy? You were doing so well!


Save the condencension, I went by what he posted and your response.
tonygraz Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 7:34 PM EST
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menopause maybe ?
delta1 Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 8:17 PM EST
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I haven't travelled the world so I can't be the judge of the statement, "America is the least racist country in the world."

You have to make that statement based on the actual realities of our country...not what goes on in others. I'm 67 and an American citizen born to Chinese immigrants. So I grew up when segregation...overt and legal racism, existed.

My Dad told me stories about his service in the US Air Force during WWII, how he was assigned to an all-Chinese squad, and how even though he fought and risked his life for America, his squads were treated differently than the all-whites. There were places we couldn't go or enter, even in Los Angeles and SoCal, and there were places where we couldn't buy a house... but more so in other parts of the US. But he said that I should do my best, learn English, get good grades and go to college and get along with everybody. This country offers better opportunities, and so it's better than China, where people are poor and communism is starting to spread, wiping everybody out.

Even after passage of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, I was reminded occasionally that I'm not equal, I'm different from white Americans. Growing up, I was often told to go back where I came from, most often by whites...

so MACS and Gene may right, but the statement acknowledges that racism still does exist in America...and it feels and looks different depending upon your race. Denying that it is a problem enables it to continue. Telling people to move to another country if they don't like it here is disrespectfully racist, especially to a minority member who was born an American citizen and loves his home country just as much as most Americans who have no plans to move. Why not work harder to make racism even lesser than it is, because isn't that our goal: true equality?
fiddler898 Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 8:41 PM EST
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jimbotork wrote:
I just talked to a black guy and his wife who seem to think America has treated them horribly! I don't see this. I always invite these people to leave the U.S. and move to a country that is more comfortable for them. They never go. They stay and complain about how horrible it is. Why is that? What do they want? ALL LIVES MATTER!


How about you go back to wherever you came from? Seems you’re pretty unhappy living among people of color who feel free to express their own opinion.
tonygraz Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 8:44 PM EST
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Those that have experienced racism know how to see it. Those who say they are not racist probably do not see it.
delta1 Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 8:52 PM EST
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you said in two short phrases what it took me a few paragraphs to try to say...thanks tony.


but I have to add, I am proud to be American and have been blessed in my life as an American citizen, and would not want to move anywhere, because this is home.
Gene363 Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:15 PM EST
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FFS, read what was said again:

"America is one of the LEAST racist, most generous countries on the planet."

What parts says there is NO racism in the USA? Or that it has never existed in the USA? Do you ever read something and try to understand what the author was thinking and NOT jump to a conclusion based on your political position/ that of the author?
teedubbya Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 9:18 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Those that have experienced racism know how to see it. Those who say they are not racist probably do not see it.



I thought it was less than it is until I saw how differently my wife gets treated than I do in certain situations. I thought she was exaggerating until I saw it first hand. I’ve never been spit at and told to go home by random strangers.
izonfire Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 10:07 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I thought it was less than it is until I saw how differently my wife gets treated than I do in certain situations. I thought she was exaggerating until I saw it first hand. I’ve never been spit at and told to go home by random strangers.

You should have never taken her with you to those NAMBLA meetings...
ZRX1200 Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 10:13 PM EST
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I have a black friend, he let me touch his hair. He’s one of the “good ones”.

I’m obviously not racist, so therefore America isn’t.
izonfire Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 10:15 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
maybe make this point on a thread where the op isn't telling black people to go back to their own country...

He has brown skin.
By definition, he cannot possibly be racist.

Now you, being a white male,
Racism exudes from your every pore and orifice...
8trackdisco Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 10:21 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
He has brown skin.
By definition, he cannot possibly be racist.

Now you, being a white male,
Racism exudes from your every pore and orifice...


That’s the difference between the Democrats and MLK.

MLK wanted people judged not by the color of their skin but the content of their character.
frankj1 Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 10:24 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I have a black friend, he let me touch his pubic hair. He’s one of the “good ones”.

I’m obviously not racist, so therefore America isn’t.


biracial homosexuality outrage
Gene363 Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Jan 10 2021, 11:27 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
That’s the difference between the Democrats and MLK.

MLK wanted people judged not by the color of their skin but the content of the character.


This.
frankj1 Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 10:23 AM EST
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is that why the Kennedys had him killed?
ZRX1200 Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 10:28 AM EST
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Do we know it was the Kennedy’s or the FBI.....
frankj1 Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 10:35 AM EST
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it's always someone who uses their middle name
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 10:36 AM EST
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or Cruz's father?
Gene363 Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 11:21 AM EST
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Yup, we know J. Edger Hoover tried to get MLK to commit suicide.
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 12:49 PM EST
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and he wore women's clothing, which is now OK.
Gene363 Offline
#38 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 1:33 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
and he wore women's clothing, which is now OK.


LOL so I've heard and a lot of managers he appointed are still there.
Speyside Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 1:41 PM EST
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Edgar had the legs for stilettos.
teedubbya Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Jan 11 2021, 2:40 PM EST
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I heard Cruz’s wife wears Ed’s hand me downs.
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