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Trump will leave office with his lowest approval rating ever.
rfenst Offline
#1 Posted:
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NYT
Throughout four years of scandals and investigations, President Trump has maintained an approval rating that rarely budged from a 10-point band between 35 and 45 percent. Nothing he could say, do or tweet appeared to dramatically change public opinion of him.

But the events of Jan. 6 — when a violent mob of Trump supporters incited by the president stormed the Capitol — appear to have damaged him in his final days in office in a way that finally moved the needle.

Mr. Trump is set to depart office on Wednesday with an approval rating of 29 percent, the lowest of his presidency, according to a new poll from the Pew Research Center.

About 75 percent of the public said Mr. Trump bore some responsibility for the violence and destruction of Jan. 6, which put the lives of the vice president and members of Congress at risk and resulted in five deaths, according to the survey.

And his behavior since the election — a period during which he has repeatedly tried to contest his loss, relied on conspiracy theorists for advice, encouraged supporters who do not view President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. as legitimate, and refused to concede — has cost Mr. Trump support even with those individuals who have loyally supported him up until now.

According to Pew, the share of his supporters who described his conduct as “poor” has doubled, from 10 percent to 20 percent, over the past two months.

Mr. Biden, in contrast, has benefited from how he has handled the transition period. About 64 percent of voters said they had a positive opinion of his conduct since the November election. The majority of voters said they also approved of his cabinet selections.

Mr. Trump’s polling while in office has been surprisingly stagnant, despite regular eruptions from the president. He was the only president in the history of Gallup’s polling who never earned the support of a majority of Americans for even one day of his term. But he also held onto his durable base, who appeared willing to overlook any behavior they did not approve of, or any promises that Mr. Trump never followed through on.

That group now appears to have shrunk, although Mr. Trump still has some stalwart supporters who believe the conspiracy theories he has encouraged about election fraud. About 34 percent of respondents said they believed Mr. Trump was “definitely” or “probably” the rightful election winner.

Mr. Trump’s advisers have tried to play up that base of loyal support to him, noting that there are “welcome home” events planned for his arrival in Florida on Wednesday. They have also planned an upbeat send-off on the morning of Jan. 20 to commemorate his final departure from Washington as president, aboard Air Force One.

But whatever show of support he sees on his way out will belie the reality of his situation.

Not only has he made history as the first president to be impeached twice. But he appears to be on track to leave office with the lowest approval rating of any modern-day president.

— Annie Karni
fiddler898 Offline
#2 Posted:
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29%? Clearly the dead are voting.
Speyside Offline
#3 Posted:
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Don't you mean the brain dead are voting?
Smooth light Offline
#4 Posted:
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Who gives a sh*t
RayR Offline
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It must be the will of the ignorant citizens. NYT Times Poll?
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted:
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98.2% of statistics are made up.

And he’s not leaving office.

#rentfreeinheadsforever
RayR Offline
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This is pretty interesting and funny, written by Amerikan lawyer and writer, Guy Somerset, and published in Pravda.
The New York Times would never allow it.

Memo To Trump: Scorch the Earth – Part 1
https://english.pravda.ru/opinion/145533-trump_memo/

Memo To Trump: Scorch the Earth – Part 2
https://english.pravda.ru/opinion/145535-trump_memo/

delta1 Offline
#8 Posted:
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there is evidence here that the 29% is fake...he has a much higher approval rating among his supporters here...

I'm raising the BS flag
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
It must be the will of the ignorant citizens. NYT Times Poll?

no.
NYT is reporting the results of the Pew Research Center, as it clearly states in the article.
Others also reported on this, and have been posting his poor approval ratings all 4 years.

certainly makes it believable that he got beat in the election...not interpreted as Biden loving, more lack of faith in the vast majority of of voters of Trump's performance in office.
HockeyDad Offline
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They prolly miscounted in the poll.
Gene363 Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
They prolly miscounted in the poll.


jester Applause
tonygraz Offline
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RayR wrote:
This is pretty interesting and funny, written by Amerikan lawyer and writer, Guy Somerset, and published in Pravda..../


I told you Rayray
was a russian spy.

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and an idiot.
Speyside Offline
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Tony, that is just mean, shame on you. Idiots deserve more respect than that. HD, there are going to be recounts fo sho.
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
no.
NYT is reporting the results of the Pew Research Center, as it clearly states in the article.
Others also reported on this, and have been posting his poor approval ratings all 4 years.

certainly makes it believable that he got beat in the election...not interpreted as Biden loving, more lack of faith in the vast majority of of voters of Trump's performance in office.


That's just as bad, the Pew Charitable Trusts have long abandoned their original conservative and libertarian values and are a left-wing organization that donates to progressive causes.

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/pew-charitable-trusts/
RayR Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
I told you Rayray
was a russian spy.
and an idiot.


I guess that means you didn't like the article?
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🦜🦜🦜 mutant parrots 🦜🦜🦜
frankj1 Offline
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RayR wrote:
That's just as bad, the Pew Charitable Trusts have long abandoned their original conservative and libertarian values and are a left-wing organization that donates to progressive causes.

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/pew-charitable-trusts/

that would be germane if it had anything at all to do with the Pew Research Center, pretty much rated center or non-party affiliated as it simply gathers info without a goal other than to discover.
The polls we have all seen for many years are not conducted by the charity. Separate organizations.

you googled all this time until you could find a negative, which is the opposite of what they do, ironically.
You set out with a theory to prove. Cool. You found opinions that a charitable organization no longer leans hard right.
Don't donate.

But the charitable organization, much like the Pew family's business (oil, I believe) have no bearing on the polls.

I mean, would it be fair to say that because Trump Charities were found guilty of misuse of funds for personal and business expenses, and ordered to pay heavy fines in the millions of dollars, that it would be equal to saying Trump is also a cheater in business?

Separate organizations. If true, coincidence.
frankj1 Offline
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https://www.pewresearch.org/about/our-funding/

so like the Trump organizations, businesses and charities, the same family.
But the polling is non-partisan.
HockeyDad Offline
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As a general rule polling is nonpartisan when I agree with the result.
frankj1 Offline
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I get it. And appreciate it.

But even if the seed money came from the same family that supported the John Birch Society? hard to say they are commies like ray is insinuating.
HockeyDad Offline
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Maybe supporting the John Birch Society is just a misdirection. That would be clever
teedubbya Offline
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Oooooh the ol black flag hoooiosker doooo
teedubbya Offline
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We all know trump is still popular. He won in a landslide just ask him and his cult members.
RayR Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
that would be germane if it had anything at all to do with the Pew Research Center, pretty much rated center or non-party affiliated as it simply gathers info without a goal other than to discover.
The polls we have all seen for many years are not conducted by the charity. Separate organizations.

you googled all this time until you could find a negative, which is the opposite of what they do, ironically.
You set out with a theory to prove. Cool. You found opinions that a charitable organization no longer leans hard right.
Don't donate.

But the charitable organization, much like the Pew family's business (oil, I believe) have no bearing on the polls.

I mean, would it be fair to say that because Trump Charities were found guilty of misuse of funds for personal and business expenses, and ordered to pay heavy fines in the millions of dollars, that it would be equal to saying Trump is also a cheater in business?

Separate organizations. If true, coincidence.


Frank, you're such an innocent. The swamp corrupts all.
Do you believe in polls Frank? Have you ever been subjected to take part in a poll?

https://capitalresearch.org/article/why-pew-charitable-trusts-should-never-be-considered-non-partisan/
CelticBomber Offline
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So... did Mexico ever pay for the wall?
HockeyDad Offline
#26 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
So... did Mexico ever pay for the wall?


Yes
delta1 Offline
#27 Posted:
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Pew Research Center is rated a center/neutral media source...

Capital Research Center is rated a conservative media source...


https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings



I'd go with Pew as the more trustworthy of the two...
frankj1 Offline
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maybe more that allsides!
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