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Last post 3 years ago by delta1. 17 replies replies.
Please stop all the darn whining!
zitotczito Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 08-21-2006
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XL Pipeline people, you got what you voted for, enjoy the government cheese.

Parents, so the schools are closed tough and they will not be opening very much in the near future. Tough, stay home and teach the kids yourself. Goodness knows the schools do a piss poor job of it. Can't go to work yourself because of it, tough enjoy the government cheese.

$15.00 minimum wage great, 990,000 out of poverty but 1,400,000 people lose their jobs. I would guess that the 990,000 could care less about the others. So then with the entry and summer jobs gone, the students can just use drugs instead since they aren't in school anyway. The cartels and dealers can see dollar signs all over the place. Hey when one group loses another gains.

Illegal aliens all over the place, great and tough luck inner city and low skilled workers, we will just tax your unemployment and welfare payments to provide them free health care. Enjoy chumps!



tonygraz Offline
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A true friend of the poor and underpaid.
RayR Offline
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Joined: 07-20-2020
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Ain't my government, all they are is a bunch of insurrectionists, a gang of thugs and reprobates đź‘ż
"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under."
Sunoverbeach Offline
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How does one tough enjoy? Is it more difficult than when you just plain enjoy?
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Cheno Online
#6 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
How does one tough enjoy? Is it more difficult than when you just plain enjoy?


You really got to just concentrate and make a tough face when you are trying to enjoy it
bgz Offline
#7 Posted:
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I could have swore someone asked someone that worked in the industry and that someone said that they don't GAF because they're just going to assign them to a different location anyway.

Apparently the loss of jobs thing is a lie... it's just a loss of THAT job... apparently the individual workers get shuffled all over.

At least that's what I could have swore someone said... it's only the pipeline owners, shareholders and investors that get screwed.

... oh
RayR Offline
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Joined: 07-20-2020
Posts: 8,881
bgz wrote:
I could have swore someone asked someone that worked in the industry and that someone said that they don't GAF because they're just going to assign them to a different location anyway.

Apparently the loss of jobs thing is a lie... it's just a loss of THAT job... apparently the individual workers get shuffled all over.

At least that's what I could have swore someone said... it's only the pipeline owners, shareholders and investors that get screwed.

... oh


Somebody bonehead said something. Is that's your defence for Dictator Biden cancelling an international project and peoples jobs with it? With your progressive limited understanding of economics you think only "pipeline owners, shareholders and investors that get screwed"?Frying pan
Stogie1020 Offline
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Joined: 12-19-2019
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bgz wrote:
I could have swore someone asked someone that worked in the industry and that someone said that they don't GAF because they're just going to assign them to a different location anyway.

Apparently the loss of jobs thing is a lie... it's just a loss of THAT job... apparently the individual workers get shuffled all over.

At least that's what I could have swore someone said... it's only the pipeline owners, shareholders and investors that get screwed.

... oh


Is there some magic pot of unlimited jobs they can draw from? They have "x" amount of work hours they need workers for. If "x" becomes "x" - 20%, that is the very definition of 20% less work, and therefore 20% less employment for the workers. At some percentage, the workers don't have enough work and they are effectively unemployed.

I mean, if you staff for a project and that project goes away and no other project arrives to replace it, you fire those workers you hired for the project. How does this not make sense?
delta1 Offline
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Joined: 11-23-2011
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government contracts for public works projects are lined up, awaiting approval and funding across all 50 states...thousands are greenlighted every year across the US...many construction companies bid on these jobs when they are announced...

some state and federal highway jobs currently underway in CA were approved and funded during the Bush and Obama administrations...just getting around to doing them...

if Biden's infrastructure plan gets some GOP support and is approved, the number of jobs created would be more than one can imagine...
zitotczito Offline
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delta1 wrote:
government contracts for public works projects are lined up, awaiting approval and funding across all 50 states...thousands are greenlighted every year across the US...many construction companies bid on these jobs when they are announced...

some state and federal highway jobs currently underway in CA were approved and funded during the Bush and Obama administrations...just getting around to doing them...

if Biden's infrastructure plan gets some GOP support and is approved, the number of jobs created would be more than one can imagine...


Kinda like the "summer of recovery."
BuckyB93 Offline
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Posts: 14,165
delta1 wrote:
government contracts for public works projects are lined up, awaiting approval and funding across all 50 states...thousands are greenlighted every year across the US...many construction companies bid on these jobs when they are announced...

some state and federal highway jobs currently underway in CA were approved and funded during the Bush and Obama administrations...just getting around to doing them...

if Biden's infrastructure plan gets some GOP support and is approved, the number of jobs created would be more than one can imagine...


Based on your examples, then they can expect jobs actually getting underway in 4-12+ years after Biden's plan gets approved?

I guess they'll just wait around until those jobs show up (unless the projects get canceled between now and then). They'll have plenty of time anyway since they are unemployed and stuff.
izonfire Offline
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The only ones eligible for those government contracts are transexual minorities...
Krazeehorse Offline
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Public works projects add to the debt. I just assumed that consumers were voluntarily paying for the oil.
delta1 Offline
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Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,778
BuckyB93 wrote:
Based on your examples, then they can expect jobs actually getting underway in 4-12+ years after Biden's plan gets approved?

I guess they'll just wait around until those jobs show up (unless the projects get canceled between now and then). They'll have plenty of time anyway since they are unemployed and stuff.



it was meant to show the volume of public works projects...and hints at the inefficiencies...

at the school/college districts where I worked, millions of dollars were spent and thousands of people were employed throughout the year doing construction and renovation work on the buildings and grounds...smaller jobs could be completed within a few months, but the law required a specific process if a job exceeded a minimum dollar amount...

the biggest and most expansive jobs that transcended many local jurisdictions , like the highway jobs, could take years to get underway...the construction companies who win the bids to do those jobs don't sit idly by, but are doing other jobs throughout the year... when/if they do win a bid for big jobs, they ramp up hiring for all sorts of trades specialists needed to do that job...
BuckyB93 Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 07-16-2004
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Yeah, let's cut current jobs in the fly over states with the hope that new jobs make it through the pipeline of the federal, state, and local governments in 4-12+ years.

Meanwhile we'll increase our dependence on foreign oil with the hopes that these new green jobs appear once they get approved for funding (if they get funded) and after we find out who gets funded (if they get funded). Prolly gonna be one of those "Ya gotta pass it before you can read it so you can find out what's in it" sort of thingies.

Any guesses on which countries dominate the stuff for all this green energy stuff... and stuff? (Hint: about 98.2% of it ain't made in the USA).

Edit: value corrected from 95% to 98.2% in order to comply with C-Bid Approved Standards™ (C-BAS®)
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
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so let's pass Biden's infrastructure bill when it is proposed...we'll create hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs for decades ...98.2% of everybody in the USA who wants to work can find a job then...and we'll do it all in the USA with at least 98.2% of stuff made in the USA
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