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Burner02 Offline
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Oregon Dept. of Education: Asking Students To ‘Show Their Work’ In Math Class Is A Form Of White Supremacy

A mathematics guide sent out to Oregon schools tells educators that asking students to show their work in math class is a form of white supremacy.

In an email sent out by the Oregon Department of Education, teachers were encouraged to enroll in a course called “A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction.” The course came with an 82-page instructional guide that lists the ways in which white supremacy is perpetuated in math class.

“White supremacy culture infiltrates math classrooms in everyday teacher actions,” the guide reads. “Coupled with the beliefs that underlie these actions, they perpetuate educational harm on Black, Latinx, and multilingual students, denying them full access to the world of mathematics.”

The guide offers a year-long framework for “deconstructing racism in mathematics.” It calls for “visibilizing [sic] the toxic characteristics of white supremacy culture with respect to math.”

Examples of classroom actions that allegedly perpetuate white supremacy include asking students to show their work, focusing on getting the right answer, tracking student success, and grading students.

The guide claims that asking students to show their work is “a crutch” for teachers to understand what students are thinking. This is considered white supremacy because it allegedly reinforces “paternalism” and “worship of the written word.” Worship of the written word is an alleged foundation of white supremacy culture, which reinforces documentation and writing skills.

Math classes that focus on helping students get the right answer are also a form of perpetuating white supremacy. The guide claims that calling answers “right and wrong” perpetuates objectivity, which is considered a tenet of white culture.

“The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false, and teaching it is even much less so,” the guide reads. “Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity.”

Tracking students is considered problematic as well. The guide considers tracking students a form of “paternalism and powerhoarding” as it is based on the idea that adults know what is right for students.

Certain grading practices are also a form of white supremacy, specifically participation grades. According to the organization “Grading for Equity,” which parrots the idea that grading practices reinforce inequity, grading any form of behavior leads to “inaccurate, confusing and even misleading grading.”

Not using “culturally relevant pedagogy” in word problems is considered a form of white supremacy too. According to the guide, it would be a good practice to tell students to “use Ankara fabric to teach mathematical concepts such as tessellations, fractions, area, percentages, etc.” But, if the problem told students to use wood or an object that does not have cultural relevance, this would be considered upholding white supremacy.

To be more culturally inclusive, teachers must “adapt homework policies to fit the needs of students of color.” Teachers are also asked to “identify and challenge the ways that math is used to uphold capitalist, imperialist, and racist views.”

The instructional material also suggests teachers expose students to examples of people who have used math as a form of “resistance.”



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Speyside Offline
#2 Posted:
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My oh my, I assumed this was a bad joke. Then I googled it. Unbelievable, Z time to get the hell out of there. Your daughter shouldn't go through **** like this. That may be the most dangerous bull **** I have ever seen. Q followers are dumb ****, but this makes them look brilliant. Man, I better stop, I'm starting to go off on one of my rants. Oh **** that there aren't 2 correct answers. Only white kids are capable, what an insult to every other color of people. That is the single most racist article I have ever read. Damn it, our children need quality educations not this ****. My niece and nephew are enrolled in a private school so they don't have to go through this **** ****. Sounds like dumbing school so the stupid **** can feel good. Well **** them. Learn, it isnt that hard. Learn, you need to. Learn, so you can have a good career. Learn, so you act like a human.
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted:
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relax.
Asian kids are the problem, not white kids.
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted:
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^ my chocolate brothers are knocking them out.

Spey the problem with Oregon schools is the bad teachers (few in numbers) and the system as a whole (98.2% of the problem). They’ve been on the “show your work” kick since I was in school but racism was more about actual racism then. You know like being a real POS and not some contrived obscure thing that allows leveraging differing opinions under the guise of a noble cause.
MACS Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
relax.
Asian kids are the problem, not white kids.


Hilarious. I think?

Frank... I learned a saying working in LE. "The standard is the standard". Similar to things I learned in the Navy. It means the acceptable behavior applies to everyone. The effort put forth should be the same. The way you treat people should be the same. Anyone who deviates is reminded... the standard is the standard.

The military is unrepentant. The cream rises to the top. They see no color. Leaders will have followers. I've mentioned Master Chief Jack Delucas before. He was my second "leader" when I was a boot. Senior Chief Bill Stallard was the first, but nobody had an impact on me like Master Chief Delucas. He was a black man.

That man got me to work hard and learn my job so I was great at it and I was happy to do it. He taught me that leadership is getting someone to do what you want them to do because they want to do it.

Systemic racism does not exist. It just doesn't. If it did, why does every other ethnicity that reaches our shores excel? Why do Asians do well in school? It's not only Asians. Other cultures and ethnicities do it, too. How? We're racist, right?

I have an acquaintance I occasionally see at the gym. She's from Belize, so she's not "African American", but she is black. She asked me why the blacks in America were so mad. She's a nurse. Makes a very good living. Put forth the effort.

Equal opportunity doesn't mean equal results. It's what you do with the opportunity. It's the effort. You get out what you put in, my friend

(apologies for the wordy rant, but in my entire adult life I have found this to be true)
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MACS you crushed a home run. Out of the park.

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-leonardo-dicaprio-leo-dicaprio-gif-10584134

That ball doesn't have stitches anymore.
RayR Online
#7 Posted:
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"Equal opportunity doesn't mean equal results."

I believe that statement is considered racist by the left.Anxious

Wannabe Dictator Kamala Harris says ”Equitable treatment means we all end up at the same place.”

She Said What? Kamala Harris Promotes Communism in New Video

https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/she-said-what-kamala-harris-promotes-communism-in-new-video/
HockeyDad Offline
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Speyside wrote:
My oh my, I assumed this was a bad joke. Then I googled it. Unbelievable, Z time to get the hell out of there. Your daughter shouldn't go through **** like this. That may be the most dangerous bull **** I have ever seen. Q followers are dumb ****, but this makes them look brilliant. Man, I better stop, I'm starting to go off on one of my rants. Oh **** that there aren't 2 correct answers. Only white kids are capable, what an insult to every other color of people. That is the single most racist article I have ever read. Damn it, our children need quality educations not this ****. My niece and nephew are enrolled in a private school so they don't have to go through this **** ****. Sounds like dumbing school so the stupid **** can feel good. Well **** them. Learn, it isnt that hard. Learn, you need to. Learn, so you can have a good career. Learn, so you act like a human.



This is what it is like on the Left Coast. Oregon tries to out-duel California on crazy stuff. You can rest assured that we will export this to all the other states. That’s how we roll.
Gene363 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Hilarious. I think?

Frank... I learned a saying working in LE. "The standard is the standard". Similar to things I learned in the Navy. It means the acceptable behavior applies to everyone. The effort put forth should be the same. The way you treat people should be the same. Anyone who deviates is reminded... the standard is the standard.

The military is unrepentant. The cream rises to the top. They see no color. Leaders will have followers. I've mentioned Master Chief Jack Delucas before. He was my second "leader" when I was a boot. Senior Chief Bill Stallard was the first, but nobody had an impact on me like Master Chief Delucas. He was a black man.

That man got me to work hard and learn my job so I was great at it and I was happy to do it. He taught me that leadership is getting someone to do what you want them to do because they want to do it.

Systemic racism does not exist. It just doesn't. If it did, why does every other ethnicity that reaches our shores excel? Why do Asians do well in school? It's not only Asians. Other cultures and ethnicities do it, too. How? We're racist, right?

I have an acquaintance I occasionally see at the gym. She's from Belize, so she's not "African American", but she is black. She asked me why the blacks in America were so mad. She's a nurse. Makes a very good living. Put forth the effort.

Equal opportunity doesn't mean equal results. It's what you do with the opportunity. It's the effort. You get out what you put in, my friend

(apologies for the wordy rant, but in my entire adult life I have found this to be true)



I've worked with many, many immigrants from all over the world and they would agree 100%.

For the race baiters, yes, racism does exist here and anywhere you involve humans, but it is not systemic to the US as much as it is systemic to humans, of ALL color and creed.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
MACS you crushed a home run. Out of the park.




+1
frankj1 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Hilarious. I think?

Frank... I learned a saying working in LE. "The standard is the standard". Similar to things I learned in the Navy. It means the acceptable behavior applies to everyone. The effort put forth should be the same. The way you treat people should be the same. Anyone who deviates is reminded... the standard is the standard.

The military is unrepentant. The cream rises to the top. They see no color. Leaders will have followers. I've mentioned Master Chief Jack Delucas before. He was my second "leader" when I was a boot. Senior Chief Bill Stallard was the first, but nobody had an impact on me like Master Chief Delucas. He was a black man.

That man got me to work hard and learn my job so I was great at it and I was happy to do it. He taught me that leadership is getting someone to do what you want them to do because they want to do it.

Systemic racism does not exist. It just doesn't. If it did, why does every other ethnicity that reaches our shores excel? Why do Asians do well in school? It's not only Asians. Other cultures and ethnicities do it, too. How? We're racist, right?

I have an acquaintance I occasionally see at the gym. She's from Belize, so she's not "African American", but she is black. She asked me why the blacks in America were so mad. She's a nurse. Makes a very good living. Put forth the effort.

Equal opportunity doesn't mean equal results. It's what you do with the opportunity. It's the effort. You get out what you put in, my friend

(apologies for the wordy rant, but in my entire adult life I have found this to be true)

I was funnin' on the silly idea that excelling in math is thought by many to be an Asian characteristic while the OP says white kids are causing the problem...

guess I failed at Comedy 101

Knew (more than one) guy who used to say that it was a compliment that so many people believed that Jews are good with money. He couldn't understand why broad statements about any race or ethnicity is flawed thinking even when those beliefs appear to be positive.
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here's something funny...this is OK...

https://kdvr.com/news/school-stands-behind-teacher-who-allowed-kkk-robes-in-class/


white people deciding whether or not systemic racism exists in the US is like letting addicts decide what is too much, or the defendant determine his guilt
Gene363 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
here's something funny...this is OK...

https://kdvr.com/news/school-stands-behind-teacher-who-allowed-kkk-robes-in-class/


white people deciding whether or not systemic racism exists in the US is like letting addicts decide what is too much, or the defendant determine his guilt


Well yeah, I mean aren't we always hearing about the substandard education of minorities?


Just in case... Sarcasm


Sarcasm flag off: Your assumption that only white people are raciest is profoundly wrong.
MACS Offline
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As you know, Frankie... my kid is half Asian. Wicked good at math.

Me... I'm wicked good at addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. If I have a calculator.
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'Poor kids are just as smart as white kids '... Mellow
RayR Online
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Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Spearheading Left-Wing Effort to Declare Math ‘Racist’

By Eric Lendrum February 18, 2021

Quote:
The bizarre far-left effort to label math curricula in schools as racist is being funded to the tune of hundreds of millions by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

The link is found on the website homepage of the Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction, the group behind the push to label an entire academic subject as racist. The organization consists of 25 different educational organizations, which share the false belief that basic math practices, such as a student finding the right answer and showing how they did their work, are symbolic of “institutionalized racism.”

More...

https://amgreatness.com/2021/02/18/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-spearheading-left-wing-effort-to-declare-math-racist/



clintCigar Offline
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Holy Schit
delta1 Offline
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math problem: Three brothers are on the street corner, in front of the liquor store, which will close in five minutes. Tyrone has a quarter in his pocket. D'Quan has a dollar bill. LaAnthony has three dimes. A quart sized bottle of Schlitz Malt liquor costs $1.50...how many bottles of Schlitz can the brothers buy?

answer: none, because they couldn't figure out how much money they have in time before the store closed...

show your work...
RobertHively Offline
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clintCigar wrote:
Holy Schit


For real
HockeyDad Offline
#20 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
math problem: Three brothers are on the street corner, in front of the liquor store, which will close in five minutes. Tyrone has a quarter in his pocket. D'Quan has a dollar bill. LaAnthony has three dimes. A quart sized bottle of Schlitz Malt liquor costs $1.50...how many bottles of Schlitz can the brothers buy?

answer: none, because they couldn't figure out how much money they have in time before the store closed...

show your work...


6 bottles.

They rolled an Asian guy.
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
here's something funny...this is OK...

https://kdvr.com/news/school-stands-behind-teacher-who-allowed-kkk-robes-in-class/


white people deciding whether or not systemic racism exists in the US is like letting addicts decide what is too much, or the defendant determine his guilt


white people deciding it?
Hell, white people are the ones who told them such a thing exists.

linking to a single school with abhorrent decision making is not the same as the Oregon department of education making such rules.
Context. Impact.
It matters.

Gene363 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
math problem: Three brothers are on the street corner, in front of the liquor store, which will close in five minutes. Tyrone has a quarter in his pocket. D'Quan has a dollar bill. LaAnthony has three dimes. A quart sized bottle of Schlitz Malt liquor costs $1.50...how many bottles of Schlitz can the brothers buy?

answer: none, because they couldn't figure out how much money they have in time before the store closed...

show your work...


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
DrafterX Offline
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are we still allowed to call black guys 'brothers'..?? Think
izonfire Offline
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delta1 wrote:
math problem: Three brothers are on the street corner, in front of the liquor store, which will close in five minutes. Tyrone has a quarter in his pocket. D'Quan has a dollar bill. LaAnthony has three dimes. A quart sized bottle of Schlitz Malt liquor costs $1.50...how many bottles of Schlitz can the brothers buy?

answer: none, because they couldn't figure out how much money they have in time before the store closed...

show your work...

First time in history anyone has actually seen a racist math problem...
izonfire Offline
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Oh yeah, and they don’t need money.
Dey gots a Glock...
delta1 Offline
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izonfire wrote:
First time in history anyone has actually seen a racist math problem...



here's more:


https://www.vox.com/2016/6/4/11852268/most-racist-math-test
izonfire Offline
#27 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
here's more:


https://www.vox.com/2016/6/4/11852268/most-racist-math-test

They made all those up.
It's VOX after all. Just a FOX of a darker color...
delta1 Offline
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https://www.salon.com/2013/02/22/new_york_school_assigns_racist_word_problems_to_fourth_graders/


for a scholarly discussion;

https://psychology.wikia.org/wiki/Anti-racist_mathematics
CheapPrick Offline
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delta1 wrote:
math problem: Three brothers are on the street corner, in front of the liquor store, which will close in five minutes. Tyrone has a quarter in his pocket. D'Quan has a dollar bill. LaAnthony has three dimes. A quart sized bottle of Schlitz Malt liquor costs $1.50...how many bottles of Schlitz can the brothers buy?

answer: none, because they couldn't figure out how much money they have in time before the store closed...

show your work...



It depends on how much LaAnthony can get for the 3 dimes...
RayR Online
#30 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
are we still allowed to call black guys 'brothers'..?? Think


No, Consult Pelosi's New Reotilian Dictionary.for the appropriate gender-neutral pronoun.
Jsnyder147 Offline
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Can we call a male sibling brother?
tonygraz Offline
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If he has a phone - yes.
frankj1 Offline
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RobertHively wrote:
For real

Not so sure Ray's link has enough meat in it to make a decision either way...

two things that jumped out at me (and I may not bother pursuing).

1- Skimming through the thumbnail subject descriptions listed in the equitablemath.org site (which I found after reading the link posted here by Ray) my initial assumption is that they are not saying math is inherently racist or any of that bad stuff but rather teachers need to be cognizant of language barriers within their classrooms when trying to teach the subject.

and B- the author of the posted link is a yuuuuge Devin Nunes guy, so that colors my opinion of anything he writes because of my own prejudices against the horrible person he supports.

Free and Impartial journalism? Not so much.
delta1 Offline
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the idea that unconscious racist and cultural differences can seep into public education has been around a long time...I remember doing research on the topic when I was in college in the early 70's...

the basics: authors who write text books typically refer to their own personal experiences and may unintentionally make examples out of things, events, places that are common in the author's environment/culture but aren't in the culture of a child from a poor and disadvantaged area...for example; references to travel on an airplane or a boat, or playing lacrosse, or soccer, types of food, movies, TV shows...
frankj1 Offline
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don't I know it, Al.

nearly two decades of school and not once did a teacher or text book mention latkes.
Mr. Jones Offline
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GRAMPS ...

SPEAKS!!!
frankj1 Offline
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did you get on the v-herf, Mr. Jones?
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
the idea that unconscious racist and cultural differences can seep into public education has been around a long time...I remember doing research on the topic when I was in college in the early 70's...

the basics: authors who write text books typically refer to their own personal experiences and may unintentionally make examples out of things, events, places that are common in the author's environment/culture but aren't in the culture of a child from a poor and disadvantaged area...for example; references to travel on an airplane or a boat, or playing lacrosse, or soccer, types of food, movies, TV shows...


So a math problem has to be relatable to be effective?

I guess we'll have to segregate the class to give each culture their own problems.

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